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Title: Unusual first name
Post by: sherrbert on Sunday 10 October 21 17:10 BST (UK)
I have an ancestor called Eletch (sometimes spelt Elatch) Burton. She was born in Pimlico 1840.
I have her baptism, 1881 and 1911 census only. I am sure she didn't marry before the age of 69, if at all. With such an unusual name I thought she would be easier to track. She doesn't appear with her family as a baby or young child but I can track both parents and all her siblings from birth to death.

Has anyone ever come across the name Eletch before or have any idea of its origin?
If you have a connection to or have more information about Eletch, I would be happy to hear from you.

Thanks

Title: Re: Unusual first name
Post by: rosie99 on Sunday 10 October 21 17:13 BST (UK)
Quote from: sherrbert on Sunday 10 October 21 17:10 BST (UK)
I have an ancestor called Eletch (sometimes spelt Elatch) Burton. She was born in Pimlico 1840.
I have her baptism, 1881 and 1911 census only.

Birth registration  :-\
BURTON, ELATCH       mmn HERBERT 
GRO Reference: 1841  Sept Quarter in SAINT GEORGE HANOVER SQUARE  Volume 01  Page 12
 
Title: Re: Unusual first name
Post by: sherrbert on Sunday 10 October 21 18:29 BST (UK)
Thanks  :)
Title: Re: Unusual first name
Post by: Ashtone on Sunday 10 October 21 19:12 BST (UK)
How odd that she's not with her family in the 1841 and 1851 census.
If she was still in the Pimlico area c1861, you won't find her. The 1861 census for Pimlico and Belgravia have not survived.
Title: Re: Unusual first name
Post by: Milliepede on Sunday 10 October 21 23:01 BST (UK)
Yes a bit odd isn't it.  Baptism gives date of birth 30 July 1840 but baptised 27 Feb 1848. 

Father Benjamin
Mother Ann Maria

Marriage in 1825 Lambeth.

Very unusual name. 
Title: Re: Unusual first name
Post by: jonwarrn on Sunday 10 October 21 23:04 BST (UK)
Quote from: Hillhurst on Sunday 10 October 21 19:12 BST (UK)
How odd that she's not with her family in the 1841 and 1851 census.

I think Rosie has the right birth registration in Sep qtr 1841 (the unusual name helps!) and the year of birth given on the baptism is wrong.
So, also going on the 30 July birthday, she would not have been born when the 1841 census was taken on 6 June.
Title: Re: Unusual first name
Post by: Milliepede on Sunday 10 October 21 23:10 BST (UK)
Yes I too agree with that as there is a 1 year old Susan in 1841.

Her birth registered Dec 1839 as Susannah.
Title: Re: Unusual first name
Post by: softly softly on Monday 11 October 21 11:15 BST (UK)
This post reminds me when looking for 2 of my female ancestor's named Fridas/ Frides who decided to call themselves Annie, rather than trying to explain their christian names.

Working on a theory similar to my own situation I wonder if she was called sometimes Ellen. Eletch does not seem to have moved around a great deal between 1881-1911 census, staying in the general area of Chelsea. Based on this could she be the the Ellen Burton aged 60 born St Pancras (1.6 miles from St George Han Sq and who I cannot find anywhere else. 1901 Ref rg13 89 84 23. Based on this a possible death Ellen Burton aged 77 Kensington sq 1a 104.

May be worth something for the back burner?

John
Title: Re: Unusual first name
Post by: rosie99 on Monday 11 October 21 11:37 BST (UK)
That household on the 1901 entry has been crossed out,  I wonder if it is entered elsewhere
Title: Re: Unusual first name
Post by: sherrbert on Monday 11 October 21 12:10 BST (UK)
Thanks John, for your change of name theory. I've worked from that angle before but I will have another go  ;)
Title: Re: Unusual first name
Post by: rosie99 on Monday 11 October 21 14:53 BST (UK)
I did a general search for first names El*ch on FindMyPast and there were a few variations of a first name similar to Eletch.  No luck with the surname Burton though
Title: Re: Unusual first name
Post by: sherrbert on Monday 11 October 21 17:50 BST (UK)
Thanks Rosie. Eletch must be short for 'Elusive' lol :)
Title: Re: Unusual first name
Post by: rosie99 on Monday 11 October 21 17:52 BST (UK)
Quote from: sherrbert on Monday 11 October 21 17:50 BST (UK)
Thanks Rosie. Eletch must be short for 'Elusive' lol :)

She certainly is  ;D   ;D

More concerning is that she is not with her parents in early census
Title: Re: Unusual first name
Post by: Ashtone on Monday 11 October 21 18:07 BST (UK)
As regards 1851 census, perhaps she was in an institution as a patient, etc? Maybe listed with her initials only? Just a thought...
Title: Re: Unusual first name
Post by: rosie99 on Monday 11 October 21 18:11 BST (UK)
Quote from: Hillhurst on Monday 11 October 21 18:07 BST (UK)
As regards 1851 census, perhaps she was in an institution as a patient, etc? Maybe listed with her initials only? Just a thought...

I looked at those listed with initials the yesterday but could not see anything conclusive.  Maybe a second pair of eyes will have more luck
Title: Re: Unusual first name
Post by: Ashtone on Monday 11 October 21 18:23 BST (UK)
I do wonder if she was unwell and obviously somewhere else in 1851. Three of her (slightly) older siblings died within a month of each other in 1843. In fact, two of the siblings were buried on the same day (30 Sept 1843). Abode: Commercial Road.
Title: Re: Unusual first name
Post by: Ashtone on Monday 11 October 21 18:29 BST (UK)
William Burton was buried on 31 October 1843. Image indicates Abode was St George's Hospital.
Title: Re: Unusual first name
Post by: Ashtone on Monday 11 October 21 19:47 BST (UK)
Quote from: sherrbert on Sunday 10 October 21 17:10 BST (UK)
Has anyone ever come across the name Eletch before or have any idea of its origin?

It's a variation of the words "alacha" "lacha" and "elatcha". An Indian lightweight, striped silk cloth (from the 17th century). Alacha was a noted item of silk goods of the East India Company. Pretty name.
Title: Re: Unusual first name
Post by: sherrbert on Tuesday 12 October 21 12:15 BST (UK)
Love the theory of the name's origin, Hillhurst. Eletch's family lived near and worked on the waterways in London and dealings with the East India Company and the East India Docks were likely. I guess they heard a pretty name or met somone called it and gave it to their baby.  ;D
Title: Re: Unusual first name
Post by: ShaunJ on Tuesday 12 October 21 12:51 BST (UK)
Just noting that there was an Elatch Ball(s) who married a John Faint in London in 1828, and an Elatch Ball who married a Joseph Buckingham in Westminster in 1843. Does your Burton family have a Ball connection?
Title: Re: Unusual first name
Post by: sherrbert on Tuesday 12 October 21 13:55 BST (UK)
Not that I am aware of, Shaun but the night is young. Well done for finding another Elatch though. Thanks
Title: Re: Unusual first name
Post by: Millmoor on Tuesday 12 October 21 15:29 BST (UK)
I note that her father seems to have remarried after her mother's death and that in the 1881 census Benjamin's surname appears to have been transcribed as Barton. So perhaps worth searching for Bartons as well as Burtons?

I have tried to follow her older brothers, James and Joseph in the censuses. There is a marriage of James to Matilda Parker in 1853. The witnesses were John Parker and to my eyes it looks like Eley Burton. Might that be her?

I also note that James and Matilda's youngest daughter in the 1871 census is called Ela. She was baptised Feb 3 1870 as Ela.

William
Title: Re: Unusual first name
Post by: JenB on Tuesday 12 October 21 15:44 BST (UK)
I've been wondering if this might possibly be her in 1901? The name is difficult to read - others might read it differently to me  :-\

RG 13/1123/21/9

Woolhampton Lodge, Woolhampton, Newbury, Berkshire

George E P Hurt, head, single, 57, retired clerk in HM Civil Service
Eiley Burton, servant, single, 59, housekeeper (domestic), London St Georges
Elizabeth M Brown, servant, single, 20, domestic servant, Blackheath
Title: Re: Unusual first name
Post by: MaureeninNY on Tuesday 12 October 21 16:31 BST (UK)
That 1901 looks awfully good to me,Jen!

Also-the other servant-Elizabeth M Brown just might now be the wife of Walter BENNETT on the 1911 census where Elatch is described as "aunt".

Maureen
Title: Re: Unusual first name
Post by: softly softly on Tuesday 12 October 21 16:51 BST (UK)
Well done JenB & Maureen


Info

Birth

BROWN, ELIZABETH  MATILDA     mmn BURTON 
GRO Reference: 1880  S Quarter in GREENWICH  Volume 01D  Page 1005

Marriage
Marriages Sep 1910   

Bennett    Walter        Kensington    1a   494    
Browne    Elizabeth [M_]    Kensington    1a   494    
Bunce    William J        Kensington    1a   494   
Morris    Eleanor A        Kensington    1a   494   


John
Title: Re: Unusual first name
Post by: JenB on Tuesday 12 October 21 17:37 BST (UK)
I keep on looking at this one in 1871. Probably the wrong person but I'll write it out anyway.

RG 10/ 51/ 68/ 16

19 Alfred Place, Kensington

in the household of John ?Davit, brewer

Etty Burton, servant, 28, unm, servant, London Middx
Title: Re: Unusual first name
Post by: ShaunJ on Tuesday 12 October 21 17:39 BST (UK)
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19 Alfred Place, Kensington

She's in Alfred Place in 1881 isn't she? Number 11 as I recall
Title: Re: Unusual first name
Post by: Millmoor on Tuesday 12 October 21 17:42 BST (UK)
Suspect that Elizabeth Matilda Brown's parents were Robert Hull J Brown and Charlotte Elizabeth Burton who married in Pimlico 7 March 1875. She was a minor at the time of her marriage. Charlotte's father was James Burton, Eletch's older brother and her mother Matilda Parker. Charlotte Elizabeth was baptised in Pimlico 26 March 1856. So Eletch was Charlotte Elizabeth's aunt.

William
Title: Re: Unusual first name
Post by: JenB on Tuesday 12 October 21 17:44 BST (UK)
Quote from: ShaunJ on Tuesday 12 October 21 17:39 BST (UK)
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19 Alfred Place, Kensington

She's in Alfred Place in 1881 isn't she? Number 11 as I recall

Yes! I hadn't made that connection.
Title: Re: Unusual first name
Post by: sherrbert on Tuesday 12 October 21 18:59 BST (UK)
BRAVO!
Thank you all so much.
Sherry ;D