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Wales (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Wales => Denbighshire => Topic started by: Yvie Tree on Tuesday 05 October 21 16:54 BST (UK)
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Hello,
I’m looking to trace a John Thomas Jones b 6 May 1900 in Birmingham, who took up as licensed victualler at Anchor Inn, Rhos St, Ruthin by 1940. His family are linked to Bethesda (dad is Thomas Williams Jones) and Birmingham (mum is Mary Elizabeth Assinder) so it’s not clear why he headed to Ruthin. This Ruthin address information came from his auntie’s will where he is named as the executor.
Not sure if he married, if or when he moved on, perhaps to another pub in North Wales?
Can anyone help with licensed victualler records searches?
Thank you in advance!
Yvie
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Looking at his 1939 occupation - that’s quite a switch in employment
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Looking at his 1939 occupation - that’s quite a switch in employment
It is! I’ve been searching for an engineer all this time. He may well have changed again so finding his next move might be tough.
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Looking at his 1939 occupation - that’s quite a switch in employment
I was thinking that, Carole. I'm thinking that he might have been up there doing something related and it might have been c/o licensed victualler...................who appears to have an Irish sounding name.
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The Anchor Inn (Rhos Street) is in the 1939 Register. Two redacted lines beneath an entry for a woman (DoB 1916) listed as Domestic Help. Not sure if the redacted lines belong to the Anchor Inn.
Aug 1940 newspaper mention for "Miles Timson Lewis. Anchor Inn, Ruthin. who was fined £1 for not having the sidelamps of a car partially obscured".
Yvie - this link should assist with licensed victualler research: http://www.pubhistorysociety.co.uk/PDF-Dowloads/ancestors.pdf
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The Anchor Inn (Rhos Street) is in the 1939 Register. Two redacted lines beneath an entry for a woman (DoB 1916) listed as Domestic Help. Not sure if the redacted lines belong to the Anchor Inn.
Aug 1940 newspaper mention for "Miles Timson Lewis. Anchor Inn, Ruthin. who was fined £1 for not having the sidelamps of a car partially obscured".
Yvie - this link should assist with licensed victualler research: http://www.pubhistorysociety.co.uk/PDF-Dowloads/ancestors.pdf
Thank you for this. Think I need to confirm who the Licensed Victualler was between 1940-1945 at least. Is there a specific directory I need to go to on this pdf (bit confusing which direction to go in)?
The Brewery History site says the pub was run by Salt & co brewers.
Golden nugget will be where to find the directory!? :D
Can’t find any positive results looking for quarter sessions or recognisances so far, but perhaps the newspapers aren’t all available.
He seems to vanish!
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Double checked the will, I’ve attached a snapshot of where it says his address and I presume his occupation. It does suggests he’s the Licensed Victualler, but could it be a c/o?
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When was the actual will signed? Was he a beneficiary & was any address given for him at that time?
What date was Probate granted?
Trying to narrow a date down
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When was the actual will signed? Was he a beneficiary & was any address given for him at that time?
What date was Probate granted?
Trying to narrow a date down
Ok, the will was signed 20th April 1940 (with this address info in Ruthin).
A codicil added 2nd Sept 1944 adding another niece to the beneficiaries.
His Aunty died 2nd Feb 1945, and probate granted 13 July 1945.
If his address hasn’t changed as executor of the will then he’d still be in Ruthin at Anchor Inn?
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So that means between Sept 1939 & April 1940 he upped sticks to Ruthin & changed jobs from engineer to licensed victualler.
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Managed to locate this Victualler license, he was transferred the license of the Old Anchor Inn from 17th Nov 1941 to 15th Jan 1951.
I still have questions about why he involved in the war effort, seeing as he was a skilled electrician but no military file.
Unless he was, and it's all secret.
Great to be able to finally find his official License in the archive's License Register, with the elctoral registers confirming from 1945, too.