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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Clackmannanshire => Topic started by: davisd on Saturday 02 October 21 17:25 BST (UK)
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I've never been satisfied with parentage for Catherine McGregor (1784-1828?) wife of John Mitchell. The closest I can get is a baptism to the child of Alexander McGregor & Elizabeth in Aberfoyle, Perthshire 1784 and I continue to wonder about the likelihood of movement around Scotland in the 18thc.
The Mitchells seem very established in Alloa - were young women from Perthshire wandering about Clackmannashire to find young men? Were the McGregors largely from Perth or further afield?
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Have you found a record of their marriage? If so does it say they are both in the parish or is Catherine from elsewhere?
What is the year of the marriage?
Are there any McGregor witnesses to the baptisms of any children?
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Is this the correct family?
JOHN MITCHELL Married CATHARINE MCGREGOR 04/04/1807 Alloa
MITCHELL ANNE 11/05/1808
MITCHELL ELIZABETH 14/01/1810
MITCHELL CATHARINE 23/02/1812
MITCHELL JOHN 25/09/1814
MITCHELL CATHERINE 00/04/1817
MITCHELL ALEXANDER 28/04/1819
MITCHELL MARJORY 07/03/1824
MITCHELL WILLIAM 03/04/1825
MITCHELL MARY 25/09/1827
Colin
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Is this the correct family?
JOHN MITCHELL Married CATHARINE MCGREGOR 04/04/1807 Alloa
MITCHELL ANNE 11/05/1808
MITCHELL ELIZABETH 14/01/1810
MITCHELL CATHARINE 23/02/1812
MITCHELL JOHN 25/09/1814
MITCHELL CATHERINE 00/04/1817
MITCHELL ALEXANDER 28/04/1819
MITCHELL MARJORY 07/03/1824
MITCHELL WILLIAM 03/04/1825
MITCHELL MARY 25/09/1827
Colin
Yes that's the same family.
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I do not see a record for Catherine in Clackmannan but the record may not have survived, if they did follow the naming pattern of the time a better match below but still Perthshire I’m afraid, some 35 miles from Alloa..
MCGREGOR CATHARINE ALEXANDER MCGREGOR/ANN MCLAREN 24/03/1789 Dull
Do you know when & where John was born?
I note on SP there are some death records in Alloa for some years prior to 1855 but no Catherine?
Colin
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This seems to be the marriage of Catherine’s parents. Catherine appears to be their only child, however according to the list of what records are on SP Dull is not listed, however there are baptisms and marriages but no deaths, so did they move elsewhere?
ANN MACLAREN To ALEXANDER MACGRIGOR 10/03/1788 Perth
Colin
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I do not see a record for Catherine in Clackmannan but the record may not have survived, if they did follow the naming pattern of the time a better match below but still Perthshire I’m afraid, some 35 miles from Alloa..
MCGREGOR CATHARINE ALEXANDER MCGREGOR/ANN MCLAREN 24/03/1789 Dull
Do you know when & where John was born?
I note on SP there are some death records in Alloa for some years prior to 1855 but no Catherine?
Colin
John was born in Alloa as was his father. Catherine's last child as Isabella b in 1828 while John is recorded in the 1841 Census so she's dead by then.
Whether her family moved around I don't know.
However, spurred by your comments I do see a couple of McGregors in Clackmannashire in the right time period. Thank you. It seems far more likely to have married someone from closer by.
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I've never been satisfied with parentage for Catherine McGregor (1784-1828?) wife of John Mitchell. The closest I can get is a baptism to the child of Alexander McGregor & Elizabeth in Aberfoyle, Perthshire 1784 and I continue to wonder about the likelihood of movement around Scotland in the 18thc.
The Mitchells seem very established in Alloa - were young women from Perthshire wandering about Clackmannashire to find young men? Were the McGregors largely from Perth or further afield?
Though Alloa & Aberfoyle were market towns it is perfectly possible that John Mitchell may have travelled to Stirling market and possible that Catherine McGregor also visited Stirling market.
Cheers
Guy
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I've never been satisfied with parentage for Catherine McGregor (1784-1828?) wife of John Mitchell. The closest I can get is a baptism to the child of Alexander McGregor & Elizabeth in Aberfoyle, Perthshire 1784 and I continue to wonder about the likelihood of movement around Scotland in the 18thc.
The Mitchells seem very established in Alloa - were young women from Perthshire wandering about Clackmannashire to find young men? Were the McGregors largely from Perth or further afield?
Though Alloa & Aberfoyle were market towns it is perfectly possible that John Mitchell may have travelled to Stirling market and possible that Catherine McGregor also visited Stirling market.
Cheers
Guy
That's of course useful information, Alas John Mitchell was a miner so I wonder about whether he'd be going to market in that case. Nonetheless, Thank you.
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Hi,
If it helps, I think Alex and Elizabeth McGregors were from Brig o' Turk, Callander, and moved to Culligart, Loch Katrine;
30/05/1776 ALEXANDER MCGRIGOR+ELISABETH MCGRIGOR Callander
31/05/1776 ALEXANDER MCGREGGOR+ELIZABETH MCGREGGOR Kippen
09/07/1777 ALEXR. MCGREGOR/ELIZABETH MCGREGOR JANET Callander [Bridge of Turk]
26/09/1779 ALEX. MCGREGOR/ELISABETH MCGREGOR MARGARET Callander [Bridge of Turk]
19/03/1782 ALEX. MCGREGOR/ELISABETH MCGREGOR ELISABETH Callander [Bridge of Turk]
14/11/1784 ALEXANDER MCGREGOR/ELIZABETH MCGREGOR KATHARINE Aberfoyle [Callagart More]
And this could be them;
01/06/1787 ALEXANDER MCGREGOR/ELIZABETH MCGREGOR MARY Kilmadock
If so, then the family were drifting east from Aberfoyle/Callander.
John.
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That's an interesting progression. I've found a James McGregor m Elizabeth McNaughton in Alloa 25 May 1776 that seems a likely couple even though your Calligart More couple has the right birth date. I think McGregors already in Alloa are more likely. But I'm pondering it.
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If so, then the family were drifting east from Aberfoyle/Callander.
John.
As I mentioned above I'm looking at a couple married in Alloa - they seems to have been from Alva - which is describe both as being in Stirlingshire And in Clackmannanshire, though it does not appear on a boundary. Any idea about that?
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According to the Statistical Account of Scotland (1796), Alva "is a part of the county of Stirling, though it happens to be totally disjoined from every part of it .... it is surrounded by the shire of Clackmannan on the east, south and west, and on the north, it is bounded by a part of the county of Perth".
The New Statistical Account (1845) repeats this information and adds, "Since the passing of the Reform Bill*, Alva has been politically incorporated with Clackmannan, but is still absurdly connected with the county of Stirling, for judicial purposes."
*1832 IIRC
So in 1796 and 1845 it belonged to Stirlingshire, but was mostly inside Clackmannanshire. It is probably one of the anomalies that was corrected in about 1890 when a lot of the more curious parish and county boundaries were rationalised.
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Thank you!