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Title: pubs
Post by: andrea h on Wednesday 29 September 21 09:15 BST (UK)
hi there i am new to this site and i am wondering if you can help me ?   my gg grandad on the 1911 census was a eating house keeper in 198 wellington street leeds westyorkshire  but dosent give the name of the pub can anyone point me in the right direction please his name is isaac sidebottom
Title: Re: pubs
Post by: arthurk on Thursday 30 September 21 11:28 BST (UK)
Most sites with the 1911 census also provide images of the enumerators' summary sheets which list all the addresses.

In this case, 198 Wellington Street is listed as a Restaurant rather than a pub. To help you locate it, there are two pubs/hotels nearby: The Angel at 186, and the Wellington Hotel at 202. The latter is probably what I can see on an old map as the Wellington Inn, at the corner of St Philip Street.

On the opposite corner of St Philip Street (ie the one nearer the city centre) is St Philip's Church, then a school, then a row of about 8 properties and then Wellington Lane. So if the numbering is conventional, 198 should be one of the row of 8.

Hopefully this will help you find it, and if you're lucky you might even find a photo on Leeds Library's Leodis site - https://www.leodis.net/
Title: Re: pubs
Post by: ShaunJ on Thursday 30 September 21 11:41 BST (UK)
Yes an "eating house" is not a pub.

The premises were described as Artisan Dining Rooms in an ad in the Leeds Mercury of 29 January 1916.

There's a death notice in the Yorkshire Evening Post of 29 August 1913: SIDEBOTTOM.—August 28th, 198 Wellington Street, Leeds. Isaac, the beloved husband of Sarah Hannah Sidebottom. Interment Oldfield Lane Cemetery, Sunday, August 31st..."
Title: Re: pubs
Post by: Viktoria on Thursday 30 September 21 21:11 BST (UK)
An “ eating house “keeper does not necessarily mean a pub landlord serving beer and food.
There were eating houses, very basic restaurants ,serving simple food cooked in large quantities ,soup, stews etc.
Some very poor people could not cook in their homes, only the open fire but you had to have enough money for coal and ingredients.
Try widening your search, and hope you have success,
Viktoria.

Ooops! Just posted my reply to see two people were there before  me!
Those early answers did not show up when I first read the original query.
V.
Title: Re: pubs
Post by: andrewalston on Friday 01 October 21 17:33 BST (UK)
There's are ads in the Leeds Mercury in January 1916.
21st & 22nd:
SALE, old-established DINING ROOMS; occupier ten years; no reasonable offer refused. 198 Wellington-street.

27th, 28th & 31st:
SALE. ARTISAN DINING-ROOMS, facing large works: £35, or nearest offer. 198, Wellington-street, Leeds.

24th February:
WANTED, GIRL, about 14, general help; good home. Apply Artisans' Dining Rooms, 198 Wellington Street.

Also, Yorkshire Evening Post 29th August 1913:
SIDEBOTTOM. August 28th, at 198, Wellington Street, Leeds, Isaac, the beloved husband of Sarah Hannah Sidebottom. Interment at Oldfield Lane Cemetery, Sunday, August 31, at 2.30. Friends please accept this (the only) intimation.

An announcement that the property was inside a clearance area appeared in the Yorkshire Post and Leeds Intelligencer on 16 September 1932.