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Title: hrbert guy thomson 1878 -1971
Post by: GARLAND on Sunday 26 September 21 21:46 BST (UK)
hi 
trying to find out any amy records on Herbert  he became a LT COL  at some point ,                  Also wanting to know if he went to Australia at some point and got married  and return to uk ( was this just a family story or a fact ) many thanks to any one with info cheers m
Title: Re: hrbert guy thomson 1878 -1971
Post by: MonicaL on Sunday 26 September 21 22:00 BST (UK)
Hi Garland

Some family researchers have this marriage for him:

Herbert G Thomson and Beti Evans-Tomlinson (also indexed as Beti Evans and Beti E Tomlinson)
Kensington 1950, ref 5c/2808.

At leasts one daughter from the marriage (1959-2005). On birth index, mother's maiden name showing as Evans.

Beti died on 26 November 1991 on the Isle of Wight (from the Probate Calendar entry for her). From her death indexed entry, her date of birth is showing as 4 July 1915 (not seeing her entry on the birth indexes with that date. Closest is one in 3rd Qrt 1913 in West Ham).

Monica
Title: Re: hrbert guy thomson 1878 -1971
Post by: MonicaL on Sunday 26 September 21 22:25 BST (UK)
This needs figuring out  ::) 1st Col/2nd para www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/40481/page/2896/data.pdf

Monica
Title: Re: hrbert guy thomson 1878 -1971
Post by: MonicaL on Sunday 26 September 21 22:37 BST (UK)
There was a previous marriage for Herbert Guy Thomson. His wife Janet's death was mentioned in the Banbury Guardian on 17 March 1949:

Title: Re: hrbert guy thomson 1878 -1971
Post by: Ashtone on Sunday 26 September 21 22:45 BST (UK)
Is this him, as well?
1944 Birthday Honours (OBE)
Lieutenant-Colonel Herbert Guy Thomson, DSO, Devon Home Guard
Title: Re: hrbert guy thomson 1878 -1971
Post by: Ashtone on Sunday 26 September 21 22:49 BST (UK)
THE EDINBURGH GAZETTE, OCTOBER 24, 1916
To be Companions of the Distinguished Service Order
Maj. Herbert Guy Thomson, R.F.A.
Title: Re: hrbert guy thomson 1878 -1971
Post by: GARLAND on Sunday 26 September 21 22:51 BST (UK)
hi monica
   thanks so much this is getting very interest with both last 2 messages you sent my friend will be jumping up n down with this extra info stuff he didn't know , brilliant thanks m
Title: Re: hrbert guy thomson 1878 -1971
Post by: GARLAND on Sunday 26 September 21 22:53 BST (UK)
hi hillhurst

thanks very much for the info I wll pass on to my friend he will be so pleased
Title: Re: hrbert guy thomson 1878 -1971
Post by: Ashtone on Sunday 26 September 21 22:59 BST (UK)
One of his WW1 Medal Card images indicated he served in Mesopotamia. I'm trying to locate the record again. Haven't found his service record yet, but it may not exist anymore.
Title: Re: hrbert guy thomson 1878 -1971
Post by: MonicaL on Sunday 26 September 21 23:06 BST (UK)
A possible even earlier marriage?

From The Times 26 Aug 1911:

Added: Not easily seeing the marriage on FreeBMD though...

Title: Re: hrbert guy thomson 1878 -1971
Post by: Ashtone on Sunday 26 September 21 23:27 BST (UK)
I'm not sure if it's one man or two men with the same name. But here are the WW1 details I'm seeing:

Name:   Herbert Guy Thomson
Rank:   LT COL
Identification Number:   Oa211268
Corps, Regiment or Unit:   R.F.A. 2nd Wessex Bde

Then there's a Major HG Thomson who served with the 5th Hampshire (Howr) Battery in late 1914.
Not sure, but this Battery may have been attached to the 2nd Wessex (Howitzer) Brigade at Ryde, Isle of Wight. (Info from Fold3).

Still looking for the Medal Card which mentions Mesopotamia. I had it just a few moments ago!
Title: Re: hrbert guy thomson 1878 -1971
Post by: GARLAND on Sunday 26 September 21 23:33 BST (UK)
hi monica

wow that's amazing how you found that so he did marry a Australian lady , In the beginning my friend though he didn't marry at all and now so far 3 wives popping up brilliant thanks again
Title: Re: hrbert guy thomson 1878 -1971
Post by: GARLAND on Sunday 26 September 21 23:40 BST (UK)
hi hillhurst
thank you I will as my friend about that army part you have mentioned off to bed now so will let you know tomorrow
Title: Re: hrbert guy thomson 1878 -1971
Post by: mckha489 on Monday 27 September 21 00:35 BST (UK)
A possible even earlier marriage?

From The Times 26 Aug 1911:

Added: Not easily seeing the marriage on FreeBMD though...

Suspect that engagement was not followed by a marriage. This is surely her marrying in 1913


https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/158871745?searchTerm=Matilda%20Mary%20prudence%20Walter
Title: Re: hrbert guy thomson 1878 -1971
Post by: Ashtone on Monday 27 September 21 01:19 BST (UK)
Found the Medal Card again (on Ancestry). Image doesn't list a service number, but indicates he was the DSO who was a Major and L/Col with the RFA (Territorial Force).

UK, British Army World War I Medal Rolls Index Cards, 1914-1920
Name:   Herbert Guy Thomson
Regiment or Corps:   Royal Field Artillery

Theatre of War: Mesopotamia
Date of entry therein: March 1915
Note: At the bottom of the 2nd card is a Correspondence address:
Estate Office, Leadenham, Lincoln. I presume it was the address his medals were posted to c1921.

In March 1915, the 5th Hampshire Howitzer Battery RFA left for service in Mesopotamia. The campaign in Mesopotamia, which is now modern day Iraq, was fought primarily between the British Empire and the Ottoman Empire in late 1915, and into 1916.

This link will provide details and photos relating to the 4th Hampshire Regiment in the Mesopotamia Campaign. Keep in mind that Thomson served with the 5th Hampshire Regiment.
https://www.royalhampshireregiment.org/about-the-museum/timeline/mesopotamia-1915/

This Wiki link has some good info re the 5th Hampshire Battery in Mesopotamia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2nd_Wessex_Brigade,_Royal_Field_Artillery
Title: Re: hrbert guy thomson 1878 -1971
Post by: GARLAND on Monday 27 September 21 13:52 BST (UK)
hi mckha489   
that's brilliant thanks for that it answere,s a longing question my friend is so pleased  thank you
Title: Re: hrbert guy thomson 1878 -1971
Post by: GARLAND on Monday 27 September 21 13:53 BST (UK)
hi hillhurst
 big thanks to you I have passed your info onto my friend he is very happy