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Title: detals of marriage
Post by: ards g on Wednesday 22 September 21 21:40 BST (UK)
looking for details of marriage of mary radcliffe to a john taylor about 1932 think she may have died after 1957 as I can remember being in her home in 1957 with my grandfather. not sure of how many children as mary taylor she had. when married to fred radcliffe she had three girls
Title: Re: detals of marriage
Post by: aghadowey on Wednesday 22 September 21 21:53 BST (UK)
looking for details of marriage of mary radcliffe to a john taylor about 1932 think she may have died after 1957 as I can remember being in her home in 1957 with my grandfather. not sure of how many children as mary taylor she had. when married to fred radcliffe she had three girls

N.I. marriages before 1921 are not available to view free on Irish Genealogy but you might want to check just in case they married in Donegal or elsewhere in the Republic of Ireland-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/civil-search.jsp

For N.I. marriages after 1922 you'll need to use GRONI's database (those more than 50 years old are viewable online)-
https://geni.nidirect.gov.uk/

Births less than 100 years old will not be available on either site.
Title: Re: detals of marriage
Post by: scotmum on Wednesday 22 September 21 22:28 BST (UK)
Death of a son:

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.   TAYLOR—August 24, 1947 (as result of drowning accident), John, eldest , son of John and Mary Taylor, 59, Fountain Hill Waterside, Londonderry. Funeral on to-morrow (Wednrsday), 27th inst., at 2.90 p.m., to ,Glendermott Presbyterian...   

per Londonderry Sentinel

John was apparently 20, so if Mary married c1932, could he have been from her first mariage but brought up as Taylor? Three brothers and two sisters named in coverage of funeral, all with Taylor surname (John had drowned in an accident at Downhill along with a Leonard Simpson, so quite a bit of detail of mourners re both).
Title: Re: detals of marriage
Post by: scotmum on Wednesday 22 September 21 22:46 BST (UK)
Mary Radcliffe then Taylor and John Taylor were involved in a case concerning the making of false representation in respect of unemployment benefit. Coverage in local papers of 6/7th May 1932. As part of case, it was mentioned that on 11th March, John had indicated he had married Mary the week previous.
Title: Re: detals of marriage
Post by: scotmum on Wednesday 22 September 21 22:49 BST (UK)
From GRONI, marriage actually took place on 6th February 1932.
Title: Re: detals of marriage
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Thursday 23 September 21 06:53 BST (UK)
when married to fred radcliffe she had three girls

This might be her first marriage to Frederick J Radcliffe in 1917.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1917/09736/5532674.pdf

From GRONI-
Helen Radcliffe     24th August 1919     Female   McDowell   Londonderry
Martha Radcliffe      28th January 1921     Female   McDowell   Londonderry



Title: Re: detals of marriage
Post by: dathai on Thursday 23 September 21 09:19 BST (UK)
Martha married in 1919 to Daniel Callaghan with address of 59 Fountain Hill
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1919/09665/5504573.pdf

1911
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Londonderry/Londonderry_No__5_Urban/Cuthbert_Street/606231/
Title: Re: detals of marriage
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Thursday 23 September 21 09:53 BST (UK)

1901 census
House 7 in Cuthbert Street (Waterside, Londonderry).
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Londonderry/Waterside/Cuthbert_Street/1539941/


Title: Re: detals of marriage
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Thursday 23 September 21 15:29 BST (UK)
From GRONI-
Helen Radcliffe     24th August 1919     Female   McDowell   Londonderry
Martha Radcliffe      28th January 1921     Female   McDowell   Londonderry

Possible marriage-
Helen Radcliffe to Joseph Robins      23rd February 1942     Derry

KG

Title: Re: detals of marriage
Post by: ards g on Thursday 23 September 21 19:48 BST (UK)
thank you all for your help in the  radcliffe / taylor marriage as regards john taylor who drowned 1947 he defiinately was not a child of frederick j radcliffe /mary McDowell marriage as there has never been a mention of a son in as fred disappeared in the 20's to america without any knowledge anybody in fact I'm named fred after him he was my grandfathers brother .Fred married a couple of times in the states without any family.The three radcliffe girls born in derry lived in england
Title: Re: detals of marriage
Post by: Maiden Stone on Friday 24 September 21 17:50 BST (UK)

N.I. marriages before 1921 are not available to view free on Irish Genealogy but you might want to check just in case they married in Donegal or elsewhere in the Republic of Ireland-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/civil-search.jsp


Don't you mean marriages after 1921 when Ireland was partitioned? Marriages in all 32 Irish counties before 1921 are on Irish Genealogy.ie.
Title: Re: detals of marriage
Post by: aghadowey on Friday 24 September 21 20:15 BST (UK)
Yes, Maiden Stone- should say AFTER 1921  :-[
Title: Re: detals of marriage
Post by: maryderry on Monday 27 September 21 23:19 BST (UK)
Date of Marriage:   19-Feb-1917       
Parish / District:   CLOONEY HALL      County:   Co. Derry
Husband      Wife
Name:   Frederick J   Radcliffe      Mary   Mcdowell
Address:   Ebrington Barracks Derry      11 Cuthbert St Derry
Denomination:   Methodist      Methodist
Occupation:   SOLDIER      FACTORY WORKER
Age:   22      19
Status:   Bachelor (Previously unmarried)      Spinster (Previously unmarried)
Husband's Father      Wife's Father
Name:   Joseph   Radcliffe      John   Mcdowell
Address:         
Denomination:         
Occupation:   PLATER      CURRIER
Husband's Mother      Wife's Mother
Name:               
Address:         
Denomination:         
Occupation:         
Witness 1      Witness 2
Name:   Robert   Lowther      Martha   Mcdowell
Address:         
Notes:
GROOM WAS A PRIVATE IN THE 2ND ENNISKILLEN FUSILIERS
Title: Re: detals of marriage
Post by: maryderry on Monday 27 September 21 23:55 BST (UK)
marriage 06/02/1932 Glendermott COFI
John Taylor age 26 bachelor occ.labourer address 4 Herbert street waterside Derry.
Mary Radcliffe age 34 widow occ.factory worker address 59 Fountain Hill Derry.
witnesses John Mc Intyre & Violet Carlin.
fathers Joseph Taylor & John Mc Dowell (both fathers deceased)
Title: Re: detals of marriage
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Tuesday 28 September 21 07:15 BST (UK)
Date of Marriage:   19-Feb-1917       
Parish / District:   CLOONEY HALL      County:   Co. Derry
Husband      Wife
Name:   Frederick J   Radcliffe      Mary   Mcdowell
Address:   Ebrington Barracks Derry      11 Cuthbert St Derry
Denomination:   Methodist      Methodist
Occupation:   SOLDIER      FACTORY WORKER
Age:   22      19
Status:   Bachelor (Previously unmarried)      Spinster (Previously unmarried)
Husband's Father      Wife's Father
Name:   Joseph   Radcliffe      John   Mcdowell
Address:         
Denomination:         
Occupation:   PLATER      CURRIER
Husband's Mother      Wife's Mother
Name:               
Address:         
Denomination:         
Occupation:         
Witness 1      Witness 2
Name:   Robert   Lowther      Martha   Mcdowell
Address:         
Notes:
GROOM WAS A PRIVATE IN THE 2ND ENNISKILLEN FUSILIERS

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