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Hello, I am trying to gather information about the William Birchall, my Great Grandad and his family of Wigan. My Grandparents, Ellen Birchall and Christopher Joseph Green married in 1927. Unfortunately, I knew nothing of them all as I was 4 when we left England. Sadly, not enough questions were asked or answered about ancestors. Any information would be so much appreciated.
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Welcome to Rootschat :)
This site has a transcription of the Birchall/Green marriage
https://www.lan-opc.org.uk/
1st October 1927 St James, Poolstock, Wigan.
Christopher Green; 23, Miner, Bachelor, 70 Corporation Street
Ellen Birchall; 20, Spinster, 16 Cygnet Street
Groom's Father: John Green, Brewery Labourer
Bride's Father: William Birchall, Engineer
Witness: Peter Hamer; Jane Harrison
This should help you to go back. The site also shows a baptism in 1908 - Ellen, the same address. Parents William and Mary.
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Deaths
Joseph Christopher Green aged 82 born 30 Sep 1903
Oct 1985 Wigan
Volume 39
Page 2350
Births December qtr 1903
Joseph Christopher Green Wigan 8c 99
His mothers maiden name was Higham
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Deaths
Ellen Green aged 73 born 25th July 1908
Dec qtr 1981 Wigan
Volume 39
Page 2434
Births
There are 2 Ellen Birchall births in the September qtr 1908 Wigan. Mothers maiden names were Dickinson & Weston
There are 2 possible marriages
Marriages December qtr 1907
BIRCHALL William Wigan 8c 149
DICKINSON Mary
Marriages June qtr 1903
Birchall William Wigan 8c 88
Weston Jane
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Possible 1911 entries
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWYC-9JK
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWY6-8GB
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Marriages December qtr 1907
BIRCHALL William Wigan 8c 149
DICKINSON Mary
This one has the correct address of 16 Cygnet St.
Married 05 Oct 1907, The Parish Church of St James, Wigan
William Birchall, age 22, bachelor, machinist, 16 Cygnet St., father John Birchall, engineer
Mary Dickinson, age 19, spinster, 29 Peel St, father James Dickinson, carpenter
Married after banns.
Both signed
Witnesses: William Finch, and Jane Dickinson
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I can confirm that one of the 1911 census records Carole gave you is correct.
Living at 16 Cygnet St, Wigan, Lancashire, England. All the residents of the household have their birth place as Wigan, Lancs.
John Birchall born 1862 occ. Mill mechanic cotton
Theresa Birchall born 1865
William Birchall (son to above) born 1885, occ. Driller
Mary Birchall (D-in-L to John) born 1889
The two children are Ellen born 1909 and Elizabeth born 1911, granddaughters to John.
bbart has given you the details of William & Mary's marriage which also confirms the 1911 address.
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John Birchall married Teresa Shannon on 5 August 1883. Fuller details here:-
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NNJF-62F
Added: I finally found the image no. 485:-
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-DWP4-QH?i=484
Enlarge the page and then the entry is top right No. 345 on the marriage register.
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Thank you so much for all of the information. I had an idea about my Nanna's mother being Mary Dickinson but when I contacted the owner of that Ancestry site, he said that our Birchall's were not related. You know that feeling you get when you just know something to be true? I'm so thankful to you all for finding this. It's a really good beginning.
Jan