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Title: Any idea what this is please
Post by: comfort on Sunday 12 September 21 19:14 BST (UK)
Hi
 i am not sure if i am in the right place for this question
 i have been left some ww2 medals and in with these medals was an object that i have no clue what it is i thought maybe some one might have seen one of these be for and could tell me what it is Please
any help would be appreciated
thank you
Patricia
Title: Re: Any idea what this is please
Post by: Viktoria on Sunday 12 September 21 22:08 BST (UK)
The central cross is very like The St. St,John Ambulance Brigade motif .
Not a military organisation ,they attend events where there will be crowds etc to administer vital and not so vital First Aid.
.The members,all volunteers  are fully trained First Aiders .
However not sure of the date it started.
Hope this helps,Viktoria.
Title: Re: Any idea what this is please
Post by: JGDavies on Sunday 12 September 21 22:30 BST (UK)
Try here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maltese_cross (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maltese_cross)
Jon
Title: Re: Any idea what this is please
Post by: comfort on Monday 13 September 21 08:04 BST (UK)
Thank you both for your help it is very much appreciated
Patricia
Title: Re: Any idea what this is please
Post by: sandiep on Monday 13 September 21 19:12 BST (UK)
is there anything on the back of the medallion
Title: Re: Any idea what this is please
Post by: comfort on Monday 13 September 21 20:11 BST (UK)
Hi
 no theres nothing on the back at all, it  was sugested by someone that could it be from some one in the masons ? but i have no idea about that  it is very strange
thank you
Patricia .
Title: Re: Any idea what this is please
Post by: bearkat on Monday 13 September 21 21:51 BST (UK)
I wonder if it's from an Edwardian watch fob ???
Title: Re: Any idea what this is please
Post by: Viktoria on Monday 13 September 21 22:16 BST (UK)
I have been looking at the symbols around the arms of the cross.
One is rather like a stylised capital Omega ( the one that looks like a hook from a hook and eye.),the other reminds me of something but  it  won’t come to mind !

What is the metal?
Any hallmarks or just a base metal.?
I am going to look up the date of St John A.B.It might be an early medal from that organisation.
Viktoria .

P.S.1887 , looked at old badges and watch fobs but nothing like that .
V.
Title: Re: Any idea what this is please
Post by: Sandblown on Monday 13 September 21 23:12 BST (UK)
The central cross is very like The St. St,John Ambulance Brigade motif .
Not a military organisation ,they attend events where there will be crowds etc to administer vital and not so vital First Aid.
.The members,all volunteers  are fully trained First Aiders .
However not sure of the date it started.
Hope this helps,Viktoria.

That particular style of cross, is known as 'The Cross of St John'. As well as the St John Ambulance Brigade, it is also associated with the Fire Service. Someone also mentioned Masonic Lodges. That emblem is also associated with the Knights of Malta. Refer to Link below.

https://www.markmasonshall.org/orders/order-of-malta

Title: Re: Any idea what this is please
Post by: Ruskie on Tuesday 14 September 21 01:03 BST (UK)
Is that a chain attached to the top of the pendant? If so, does it have a clasp like a neck chain? (it doesn’t look very long in that photo)
Title: Re: Any idea what this is please
Post by: comfort on Tuesday 14 September 21 10:46 BST (UK)
Thank you everyone so very much for trying to help
 it is just a base metal i think , there are no marks on the back it must have hung on something as there is the small chain on it,
thank you again
Patricia.
Title: Re: Any idea what this is please
Post by: cartesr on Friday 29 October 21 14:26 BST (UK)
here is a St Johns ambulance medal issued to my dad. I think in the 1950's, not sure if it helps but the cross in the centre is very similar
Title: Re: Any idea what this is please
Post by: comfort on Friday 29 October 21 18:22 BST (UK)
Hi
 yes the cross does look the same doesnt it,
i just cant seem to find anything the same as what i have got it is really strange
thank you very much for the photo i appreciate you taking the time to show me.
from Patricia xx
Title: Re: Any idea what this is please
Post by: Treetotal on Saturday 30 October 21 23:57 BST (UK)
It does look like a Mason order of the Knights Templar Cross or medallion.
Carol
Title: Re: Any idea what this is please
Post by: comfort on Sunday 31 October 21 09:33 GMT (UK)
Thank you
the funny thing is my uncle was in the mason's back in the 1950s
but no one in the family seem to think it was his
all very strange but it is fun trying to find out
thank you for your reply very much appreciated xx

Title: Re: Any idea what this is please
Post by: Sandblown on Sunday 31 October 21 11:56 GMT (UK)
From My previous Link, https://www.markmasonshall.org/orders/order-of-malta, You could contact the Secretary, give details, and request if Your Uncle was a Member.
Title: Re: Any idea what this is please
Post by: grandarog on Friday 05 November 21 15:40 GMT (UK)
hers an enhanced picture to show detail.