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Title: 1921 Census
Post by: Iasgair on Friday 10 September 21 22:13 BST (UK)
Should the 1921 Census become available on line, or wherever they make it available to the general public, sometime soon?

Any word on when?
Title: Re: 1921 Census
Post by: rosie99 on Friday 10 September 21 22:34 BST (UK)
FindMyPast have the contract for the 1921 Census and it will be available early 2022
Title: Re: 1921 Census
Post by: Ayashi on Friday 10 September 21 23:48 BST (UK)
Getting close now! I don't think there will be any surprises for me, but might be some interesting nuggets.
Title: Re: 1921 Census
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Saturday 11 September 21 06:39 BST (UK)

Welcome to RootsChat  :)

https://www.rootschat.com/links/01qx8/


Title: Re: 1921 Census
Post by: Iasgair on Saturday 11 September 21 23:22 BST (UK)
Thank you all for the prompt response and to Kiltaglassan for the kind welcome.
Title: Re: 1921 Census
Post by: Jon_ni on Monday 13 September 21 13:29 BST (UK)
"Owing to the restrictions associated with numerous pandemic lockdowns during 2020 and 2021 that have affected work on digitising the 1921 census records, there is a possibility there may be a small delay to the original release date of January 2022. We are working hard to overcome these challenges and are committed to publishing the historic 1921 census records online as soon as possible in early 2022."
"The price of accessing record images and transcripts will be announced nearer to the date of release."
https://www.findmypast.co.uk/1921-census

https://www.whodoyouthinkyouaremagazine.com/feature/when-will-the-1921-census-be-available/
https://www.familytreemagazine.com/records/census/1921-uk-census/
Title: Re: 1921 Census
Post by: dicko99 on Wednesday 27 October 21 10:47 BST (UK)
FindMyPast have now announced that the data will be available from 00:01 6 Jan 2022.

I'm a bit confused by their announcement, it says they have an exclusive on these records and it'll be £2.50 per record transcript or £3.50 per original record image but then further down the FAQs it says that the images will be viewable from the same date at the National Archive. Presumably the National Archive version isn't searchable or something?

Also, does this exclusive mean that Ancestry and MyHeritage will never have access to this data or will we just have to wait a bit longer?

Richard
Title: Re: 1921 Census
Post by: Jon_ni on Wednesday 27 October 21 11:25 BST (UK)
"1921 Census of England and Wales will be free to view online at The National Archives" if you visit there in person - not on their website.
Yes it is likely Ancestry will likely get later, about 3 years later I think was the case for the 1939 register when they did their own transcripts of the images. My Heritage still do not have images of the 1939 register, they only have transcripts and purchased them from Findmypast.
Title: Re: 1921 Census
Post by: ecksdochter on Wednesday 27 October 21 11:29 BST (UK)
     Re: 1921 Scottish Census. Following information from ScotlandsPeople website. "We will release indexed images of the 1921 Scottish Census on scotlandspeople.gov.uk and in the ScotlandsPeople Centre in the latter half of 2022. We'll keep you updated on progress via our digital channels." Normally this Census would have been released in January 2022. Assume it's later in the year due to Covid. This is the first Census my parents will appear on and I've been looking forward to it's release for a long time. Looks like I'll have to wait a little longer.
     Regards,     Dod.

P.S. 1931 Census. The 1931 Census Returns for England and Wales were destroyed by fire during WW2, but the Scottish Census still exists. I wonder if I'll still be around when that's released!
     
Title: Re: 1921 Census
Post by: dicko99 on Wednesday 27 October 21 11:35 BST (UK)
"1921 Census of England and Wales will be free to view online at The National Archives" if you visit there in person - not on their website.
Yes it is likely Ancestry will likely get later, about 4 years later I think was the case for the 1939 register when they did their own transcripts of the images. My Heritage still do not have images of the 1939 register, they only have transcripts and purchased them from Findmypast.
Looks like it might be time to downgrade my Ancestry subscription and spend the money with FindMyPast...
Title: Re: 1921 Census
Post by: Jon_ni on Wednesday 27 October 21 11:40 BST (UK)
Quote
P.S. 1931 Census. The 1931 Census Returns for England and Wales were destroyed by fire during WW2, but the Scottish Census still exists. I wonder if I'll still be around when that's released!

Doubt I will be by the next Northern Ireland Census. No census was taken 1921. One was taken 1926 in the North but destroyed WW2 (the Republic's survives). After the all Ireland 1911 the next one surviving for Northern Ireland is the 28 February 1937!
Title: Re: 1921 Census
Post by: CaroleW on Wednesday 27 October 21 11:59 BST (UK)
See new thread re costs

https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=854661.0;topicseen
Title: Re: 1921 Census
Post by: Maiden Stone on Friday 29 October 21 12:41 BST (UK)
Item about it on "You and Yours" now.
Title: Re: 1921 Census
Post by: lydiaann on Friday 29 October 21 16:52 BST (UK)
Yes, I heard that, Maiden...they are apparently very close to putting the digitised version into National Archives at Kew so I presume it should be on Ancestry shortly after that.  Of course, the Scottish one won't come very soon, they still haven't posted the 1911 census yet.  It was interesting to hear the process of the scanning, they can do a whole section (?schedule) (around 300 censuses) in about 40-45 minutes, rather like feeding paper into a copier.  Some will have been lost owing to deterioration but apparently one a very small minority as their conservators have been working on them for around 3 years and have 'saved' loads, I understand.
Title: Re: 1921 Census
Post by: rosie99 on Friday 29 October 21 17:02 BST (UK)
TNA Kew should have it on the same day it is released by FindMyPast,  I expect it will be a some time before Ancestry get it as FindMyPast need to recover some of their costs.  :)
Title: Re: 1921 Census
Post by: BumbleB on Friday 29 October 21 17:04 BST (UK)
68 days to go  ;)
Title: Re: 1921 Census
Post by: Zaphod99 on Saturday 30 October 21 10:30 BST (UK)
With paper document as well as subscription I think findmypast have radically overpriced it. I'm interested to find out more details about my grandparents and one set of great grandparents but I'm certainly not paying those prices.

Zaph
Title: Re: 1921 Census
Post by: melba_schmelba on Saturday 30 October 21 13:52 BST (UK)
With paper document as well as subscription I think findmypast have radically overpriced it. I'm interested to find out more details about my grandparents and one set of great grandparents but I'm certainly not paying those prices.

Zaph
Wasn't the price similar for the 1939 register?
Title: Re: 1921 Census
Post by: BumbleB on Saturday 30 October 21 14:13 BST (UK)
1939 Register cost - £6.95 per household or £24.95 per 5 household bundle.

https://www.findmypast.co.uk/blog/family-records/announcing-the-release-of-the-1939-register

So £3.50 for the new release is cheaper.  ;D

Title: Re: 1921 Census
Post by: melba_schmelba on Saturday 30 October 21 15:07 BST (UK)
1939 Register cost - £6.95 per household or £24.95 per 5 household bundle.

https://www.findmypast.co.uk/blog/family-records/announcing-the-release-of-the-1939-register

So £3.50 for the new release is cheaper.  ;D
Oh good ;D.
Title: Re: 1921 Census
Post by: polarbear on Thursday 04 November 21 21:19 GMT (UK)
I couldn't see that this mentioned in any of the 1921 census threads (but certainly could have missed it)....

Can anyone tell me if one needs to have a sub to FindMyPast in order to be able to also access the 1921 census transcripts/images? I know the FindMyPast website mentions a discount for a particular sub but doesn't seem to say whether one can view the records without a payed sub that I can see?

PB
Title: Re: 1921 Census
Post by: suey on Thursday 04 November 21 22:31 GMT (UK)
I couldn't see that this mentioned in any of the 1921 census threads (but certainly could have missed it)....

Can anyone tell me if one needs to have a sub to FindMyPast in order to be able to also access the 1921 census transcripts/images? I know the FindMyPast website mentions a discount for a particular sub but doesn't seem to say whether one can view the records without a payed sub that I can see?

PB

They don’t make it clear do they, just mention the discount for pro subscribers.  I presume the 100 year rule applies, so again many entries redacted.
I can’t see many people taking a sub and then paying again for the 1921. 
Title: Re: 1921 Census
Post by: polarbear on Thursday 04 November 21 22:44 GMT (UK)
Thanks for the input, suey.
My sub is currently lapsed so I guess I'll find out eventually.

PB
Title: Re: 1921 Census
Post by: JayG on Friday 05 November 21 01:22 GMT (UK)
I couldn't see that this mentioned in any of the 1921 census threads (but certainly could have missed it)....

Can anyone tell me if one needs to have a sub to FindMyPast in order to be able to also access the 1921 census transcripts/images? I know the FindMyPast website mentions a discount for a particular sub but doesn't seem to say whether one can view the records without a payed sub that I can see?

PB

They don’t make it clear do they, just mention the discount for pro subscribers.  I presume the 100 year rule applies, so again many entries redacted.
I can’t see many people taking a sub and then paying again for the 1921.

There won't be any redacted entries as it being released in line with the 100 rule.

Jay
Title: Re: 1921 Census
Post by: KGarrad on Friday 05 November 21 07:53 GMT (UK)
I couldn't see that this mentioned in any of the 1921 census threads (but certainly could have missed it)....

Can anyone tell me if one needs to have a sub to FindMyPast in order to be able to also access the 1921 census transcripts/images? I know the FindMyPast website mentions a discount for a particular sub but doesn't seem to say whether one can view the records without a payed sub that I can see?

PB

If FindMyPast follow their usual policy (1911 census; 1939), then there will be a separate sub, for the first few years.
Title: Re: 1921 Census
Post by: mrcakey on Friday 05 November 21 09:27 GMT (UK)
     Re: 1921 Scottish Census. Following information from ScotlandsPeople website. "We will release indexed images of the 1921 Scottish Census on scotlandspeople.gov.uk and in the ScotlandsPeople Centre in the latter half of 2022. We'll keep you updated on progress via our digital channels." Normally this Census would have been released in January 2022. Assume it's later in the year due to Covid. This is the first Census my parents will appear on and I've been looking forward to it's release for a long time. Looks like I'll have to wait a little longer.
     Regards,     Dod.

P.S. 1931 Census. The 1931 Census Returns for England and Wales were destroyed by fire during WW2, but the Scottish Census still exists. I wonder if I'll still be around when that's released!
   

I'm getting to that age now where the odds are shortening!  I had a serious medical issue a couple of years ago and I was thinking I'd still not seen City win the Champions League, but also of all the censuses that I was going to miss!!!

Jan 2022 - 1921 England/Wales Census
Apr 2022 - 1950 US Federal Census
Jul 2022 - 1921 Scotland Census
2023 - 1931 Canada Census
Jul 2023 - 1931 Scotland Census
Jan 2027 - 1926 Ireland Census
Jan 2052 - 1951 England/Wales Census

Title: Re: 1921 Census
Post by: Kerrill on Saturday 06 November 21 13:24 GMT (UK)
Hang on in there Mrcakey  ;)
Title: Re: 1921 Census
Post by: jane k on Wednesday 10 November 21 13:34 GMT (UK)
Just to clarify - I`m probably being thick - but if I take out a subscription with Findmypast will I have to pay extra to view the 1921 census?
(I used to have a sub but it lapsed a while ago)
Title: Re: 1921 Census
Post by: candleflame on Wednesday 10 November 21 13:49 GMT (UK)
Just to clarify - I`m probably being thick - but if I take out a subscription with Findmypast will I have to pay extra to view the 1921 census?
(I used to have a sub but it lapsed a while ago)

Yes you will. If you go to the Find My Past site, it explains that unless you go to the National Archives at Kew where images will be free, everyone else has to pay to view either a transcript or the full entry. They give the two different prices per image - £2.50 for a transcript and £3.50 for the actual image However if you already have a pro sub to FindMyPast, you will get a discount on those prices.
FindMyPast also clarified in their questions that you can’t access the 1921 at a library for free either, only at Kew.
Title: Re: 1921 Census
Post by: Smudgeboy on Saturday 20 November 21 11:43 GMT (UK)
I've been an Ancestry.com subscriber for years - tried FindMyPast on a trial once but couldn't get on with it.

Do I understand from what I'm reading that my Ancestry subscription is useless if I want to access the 9121 census?

I've emailed and tweeted Ancestry, but they are not responding.
Title: Re: 1921 Census
Post by: AntonyMMM on Saturday 20 November 21 12:40 GMT (UK)
Do I understand from what I'm reading that my Ancestry subscription is useless if I want to access the 1921 census?

You won't see the 1921 Census on Ancestry for some time. They will have access eventually when the excusive FindMyPast deal expires, but that may be a few years.
Title: Re: 1921 Census
Post by: Smudgeboy on Saturday 20 November 21 14:03 GMT (UK)
Do I understand from what I'm reading that my Ancestry subscription is useless if I want to access the 1921 census?

You won't see the 1921 Census on Ancestry for some time. They will have access eventually when the excusive FindMyPast deal expires, but that may be a few years.

Thanks for the heads-up Antony  :)
Title: Re: 1921 Census
Post by: Nick_Ips on Tuesday 30 November 21 16:14 GMT (UK)

Free access to the 1921 Census at two sites in addition to Kew -

Quote
The census will be available online via our commercial partner Findmypast and will be free to access in this way at The National Archives, in Kew.

In addition, visitors to the Manchester Central Library and the National Library of Wales will be able to access the 1921 Census of England and Wales via the Findmypast website for free following its publication next year.

https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/about/news/regional-hubs-to-offer-free-online-access-to-1921-census
Title: Re: 1921 Census
Post by: cuffie81 on Tuesday 30 November 21 17:29 GMT (UK)
Free access to the 1921 Census at two sites in addition to Kew
...
https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/about/news/regional-hubs-to-offer-free-online-access-to-1921-census

The lack of trailing slash in the URL seems to be causing the TNA website to have a wobbly.

URL with trailing slash, which seems to behave:
https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/about/news/regional-hubs-to-offer-free-online-access-to-1921-census/
Title: Re: 1921 Census - new BBC article
Post by: Liam59 on Thursday 06 January 22 07:40 GMT (UK)
There's a new BBC article this morning about the 1921 census:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-59879470

Title: Re: 1921 Census
Post by: LizzieL on Thursday 06 January 22 08:00 GMT (UK)
Just looked at the search form for 1921 census. you can't search on birth date, only on birth year. Looking for my father born 1918. Doesn't appear even though he never left England until he joined the navy in WW2. So must be mistranscribed. But how to search with year alone?
Title: Re: 1921 Census
Post by: candleflame on Thursday 06 January 22 17:50 GMT (UK)
Just looked at the search form for 1921 census. you can't search on birth date, only on birth year. Looking for my father born 1918. Doesn't appear even though he never left England until he joined the navy in WW2. So must be mistranscribed. But how to search with year alone?

Put his surname in and if you know which area you think he might be in, scroll through the results. If there’s too many, add in a first name. Sometimes less is more when searching and the 1921 is no different. Then click on the transcript button which we’re familiar with on FindMyPast and it’ll show a little bubble ( on an iPad ) that gives one or two of the other people at that address. I have read on other threads that on a windows pc you can hover over the transcript button to get the who else lives there info. All this is free and you won’t be charged until you decide to buy.
If you know where he lived as in street name, you can also do an address search but on the address search tab.
Title: Re: 1921 Census
Post by: Tickettyboo on Thursday 06 January 22 18:43 GMT (UK)

If you know where he lived as in street name, you can also do an address search but on the address search tab.

or, use the name search and, on the advanced search page, put the street name in the address field
That way you get results that satisfy both the name and street criteria.

Boo




Title: Re: 1921 Census
Post by: poirot on Thursday 20 January 22 16:22 GMT (UK)
I have Find my past pro membership and looked at the record for my grandfather Harry Clarence Phillips in Gloucester. The only thing missing was his address so I clicked on the address button and a row of thumbnails appeared at the bottom of the screen. I clicked on the appropriate one and could not enlarge it to a readable size.

I was using my IPad IOS 14 so is the address only readable on a computer?


Poirot
Title: Re: 1921 Census
Post by: Tickettyboo on Thursday 20 January 22 16:46 GMT (UK)
I just tried it on my OH's iPad. I rarely use it so am not too good with it, but the address opened up fine here.

 when I click on the address thumbnail it gave me a pop up window and I chose to open it.

Its a large image so on a small screen you'd need to expand it to be able to read the actual address - which is in a smaller panel on the left side of the image.

Boo

Title: Re: 1921 Census
Post by: poirot on Wednesday 26 January 22 16:28 GMT (UK)
Still can’t bring up the address thumbnail to a readable size so paid for the transcription and there is a lot more information on there. I will not be paying for the actual image in future.

My Family History Society had a Zoom meeting with a Find my past expert recently about the 1921 census.

I don’t do Zoom so as he gave permission for his talk to be recorded I can watch it tomorrow at 2.30.

You have to be a member to watch it so I am hoping to learn a lot.

Poirot
Title: Re: 1921 Census
Post by: Jon_ni on Wednesday 26 January 22 16:49 GMT (UK)
poirot
As Boo says when you click on the Thumbnail and open it it should enlarge to the same size as the census page, same with maps & plans of division & can then download any you wish via the top bar.

address information on 1921 Census:
https://www.findmypast.co.uk/help/articles/4415867559313-how-do-i-find-address-information-in-a-1921-census-record-image-
Title: Re: 1921 Census
Post by: Andrew Tarr on Thursday 27 January 22 17:34 GMT (UK)
Sometimes less is more when searching and the 1921 is no different. Then click on the transcript button which we’re familiar with on FindMyPast
Don't click unless you intend to pay £2.50 for the privilege - hovering is enough!  ;)
Title: Re: 1921 Census
Post by: Tickettyboo on Thursday 27 January 22 18:13 GMT (UK)
Sometimes less is more when searching and the 1921 is no different. Then click on the transcript button which we’re familiar with on FindMyPast
Don't click unless you intend to pay £2.50 for the privilege - hovering is enough!  ;)


That is not correct.
If you click on either the image or the transcript icon in error, you would get the panel that tells you the cost and you have to take further action (another click) to agree to pay.

Its NOT click on the icon and automatically have your card charged.

Boo


Title: Re: 1921 Census
Post by: candleflame on Thursday 27 January 22 18:18 GMT (UK)
Sometimes less is more when searching and the 1921 is no different. Then click on the transcript button which we’re familiar with on FindMyPast
Don't click unless you intend to pay £2.50 for the privilege - hovering is enough!  ;)

It also depends on which platform you’re using as to if hover actually works! I have to do different things depending if I’m using my laptop or an old iPad.
I agree with ticketyboo and I’ve only ever paid for the images I want to pay for and never felt I was in danger of clicking by accident.
Title: Re: 1921 Census
Post by: Tickettyboo on Thursday 27 January 22 18:28 GMT (UK)
Sometimes less is more when searching and the 1921 is no different. Then click on the transcript button which we’re familiar with on FindMyPast
Don't click unless you intend to pay £2.50 for the privilege - hovering is enough!  ;)

It also depends on which platform you’re using as to if hover actually works! I have to do different things depending if I’m using my laptop or an old iPad.
I agree with ticketyboo and I’ve only ever paid for the images I want to pay for and never felt I was in danger of clicking by accident.

Thanks candleflame, that is useful to know, I suspected that it may be slightly different on a tablet, but rarely use one so wasn't sure about that.

Boo
Title: Re: 1921 Census
Post by: Rena on Thursday 27 January 22 18:56 GMT (UK)
I'm a bit puzzled by the 1921 census that I downloaded.

My grandparents had five boys under the age of 16 at the time of the census.  He states he has five children under the age of 16.   He gives the names/ages of three children living at home and indicates the ages of two children living elsewhere.

The boys ages were 8; 10; 11; 13; 14;  grandfather complied with the instructions which clearly state that all living children should be noted by an X in the relevant age columns whether living at that address or not.

For some unknown reason the enumerator has crossed out the X in ages 13 and 14 and reduced the total of five living children to three living children.

Title: Re: 1921 Census
Post by: Andrew Tarr on Thursday 27 January 22 22:53 GMT (UK)
That is not correct.
If you click on either the image or the transcript icon in error, you would get the panel that tells you the cost and you have to take further action (another click) to agree to pay.

Its NOT click on the icon and automatically have your card charged.

Sorry, it is correct.  I didn't say your card would be charged - in any case you always have the option to cancel.  I merely pointed out that hovering is enough to show you three names from the transcript (or the original image), you don't need to click.  8)
Title: Re: 1921 Census
Post by: candleflame on Friday 28 January 22 08:39 GMT (UK)
That is not correct.
If you click on either the image or the transcript icon in error, you would get the panel that tells you the cost and you have to take further action (another click) to agree to pay.

Its NOT click on the icon and automatically have your card charged.

Sorry, it is correct.  I didn't say your card would be charged - in any case you always have the option to cancel.  I merely pointed out that hovering is enough to show you three names from the transcript (or the original image), you don't need to click.  8)

Sorry not correct but on an iPad you can’t hover. You get the search page with all the names on, you choose which entry you’d like to see, so you have to click on either the transcript logo or the image logo - doesn’t matter which. Only then do the ‘Fred jo and marg live here ‘ appear. Then you just close that window if they are not yours or you don’t wish to buy. I’m typing this on my iPad and I’ve just done a check search to make sure I am accurate.
Title: Re: 1921 Census
Post by: Andrew Tarr on Friday 28 January 22 09:52 GMT (UK)
Sorry not correct but on an iPad you can’t hover. You get the search page with all the names on, you choose which entry you’d like to see, so you have to click on either the transcript logo or the image logo - doesn’t matter which. Only then do the ‘Fred jo and marg live here ‘ appear. Then you just close that window if they are not yours or you don’t wish to buy. I’m typing this on my iPad and I’ve just done a check search to make sure I am accurate.

We'll have to agree that we are both correct (or not).  I don't use an iPad, and perhaps you don't use a desktop  :D
Title: Re: 1921 Census
Post by: Tickettyboo on Friday 28 January 22 10:08 GMT (UK)
I'm a bit puzzled by the 1921 census that I downloaded.

My grandparents had five boys under the age of 16 at the time of the census.  He states he has five children under the age of 16.   He gives the names/ages of three children living at home and indicates the ages of two children living elsewhere.

The boys ages were 8; 10; 11; 13; 14;  grandfather complied with the instructions which clearly state that all living children should be noted by an X in the relevant age columns whether living at that address or not.

For some unknown reason the enumerator has crossed out the X in ages 13 and 14 and reduced the total of five living children to three living children.

Sounds like though your Grandfather interpreted the instruction correctly, the enumerator didn't. I looked at the return that my Granda did - which puzzled me at first glance as though he was married with two children at that stage, he was the only person at home that night (turns out Granny and the two children were visiting her parents elsewhere)
and he too interpreted the instruction correctly and in this case the enumerator did not alter it.

Boo

Title: Re: 1921 Census
Post by: Trevellian on Tuesday 31 May 22 09:38 BST (UK)
Hi,

This is just a small thing I've been wondering about but I do think it's quite odd and so would be interested what other people had to say about it.

For the 1921 census for my ancestor Charles Henry Rowe living with his daughter Hilda and her newly-wed husband Samuel John Bunt, there seems to have been four different people who filled in different sections of the census.

As you can see the majority of it is written all by one person, but 'Son-in-Law' is clearly different handwriting to the rest, apart from possibly 'Daughter' below, though this is strange in that they suddenly start writing in lowercase halfway through the word.

There then seems to be different writing again for 'St Blazey Gate' in 3f as it looks quite similar to the son-in-law writing but the a's are different.

There then seems different writing AGAIN for the signature, which I think is the only part of the census actually filled in by Charles himself, and bears strongest resemblance to his signature on his first marriage certificate: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939N-QV3B-C?i=244&cc=1804330&personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AKCS3-VX3

I noticed a similar situation with the 1911 census for this family, where only his own name and his signature and address at the bottom look as if they were written by him, and the rest by someone else.

I know this is very pedantic but it just seems so odd so many different people seem to have added various sections of the 1921 census especially.

Title: Re: 1921 Census
Post by: Maiden Stone on Tuesday 31 May 22 14:04 BST (UK)
Trevellian reply #51. A few suggestions.
One person began to fill in census, was interrupted or was unsure about some sections, another person continued it, then a third person, checking it, (census collector?) noticed some blanks, asked questions and wrote down answers.
There may have been uncertainty about what to put for place of birth, it may have been left blank until birth certificate was found or a relative was consulted.
A household return for an Irish census I've seen was written by 2 people, in different coloured inks, with 2 spellings of the family's surname.
Title: Re: 1921 Census
Post by: Tickettyboo on Thursday 02 June 22 15:27 BST (UK)

I know this is very pedantic but it just seems so odd so many different people seem to have added various sections of the 1921 census especially.

I have an image from the 1921 census. Nine family members Dad (72), Mum (65), and 7 'children' ranging in age from 36 to 22.
Each line is in a different handwriting. Looks like Dad did his bit and then passed the form around for each family member to complete their own details.
He signed the declaration to say it was correctly filled up to the best of his knowledge and belief, didn't need to say he had actually written it all so he wasn't telling any fibs.
Title: Re: 1921 Census
Post by: Maiden Stone on Friday 03 June 22 13:05 BST (UK)

Each line is in a different handwriting. Looks like Dad did his bit and then passed the form around for each family member to complete their own details.
He signed the declaration to say it was correctly filled up to the best of his knowledge and belief, didn't need to say he had actually written it all so he wasn't telling any fibs.

Dad signed forms but most were filled in by mother or me. 
Title: Re: 1921 Census
Post by: coombs on Saturday 04 June 22 14:38 BST (UK)
I spent time looking at the 1921 census for my great great grandmothers brother in Hull until I realised he died in 1914.  :-[
Title: Re: 1921 Census
Post by: Libby56 on Saturday 04 June 22 15:14 BST (UK)
I learnt the hard way, I couldn't wait for the day to arrive and in my excitement clicked to pay £2.50, then I wanted to view the image so that cost me £3.50. I take my time now and only pay when I really have to. It is a lesson .......... ;)
Title: Re: 1921 Census
Post by: Guy Etchells on Saturday 04 June 22 16:24 BST (UK)
After reading the comments about the 1921 Census on the forum I decided to take a look at my ancestors’ entries.
First my grandad (mum’s dad) neat entry everything as should be even the order of occupants correct.
Then my other grandad (dad’s dad) another neat entry, except for some confusion about where he worked, both his job and his place of work had been scored out and altered.
I then thought I would try my mum’s first husbands’ family his father, a proud Welshman filled out the entry everything was filled out neatly, but then he decided to change the place of birth of his and his children’s entries by scoring out Woofferton and adding Richard’s Castle. So, I checked the 1911 census and he was happy to claim they were born in Herefordshire, Woofferton on that. Intrigued I took a look at the 1901 and low and behold only he and his eldest daughter were on that census and both were from Woofferton, Richard’s Castle, seems he couldn’t make up his mind. 😉
I thought Woofferton was in Shropshire but I checked and it is on the border with a part in each county and possibly more importantly for him it used to be part of the Welsh Marches.
Cheers
Guy

Title: Re: 1921 Census 50% Discount
Post by: Nick_Ips on Thursday 09 June 22 16:30 BST (UK)
Email from TNA just now saying there's a one day only 50% discount on the 1921 census - from 12:00 BST today until 12:00 BST tomorrow (Friday 10th June).

I haven't tried it yet... but 50% off is starting to tempt me for some special records.

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The 50% off discount is automatically applied at checkout, with no code required. No subscription is needed to take advantage of the offer. 12-month Pro subscribers who already benefit from 10% off 1921 Census purchases will automatically have their discount increased to 50% for the offer period. The offer applies only to 1921 Census image and transcript purchases.
Title: Re: 1921 Census
Post by: LizzieL on Thursday 09 June 22 16:43 BST (UK)
Also mentioned on this thread

https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=861394.msg7323979#msg7323979

I'm a Pro subscriber to FindMyPast, also have TNA account and neither organisation contacted me - only heard about it through kind Rootschatters sharing
Title: Re: 1921 Census
Post by: Stanwix England on Thursday 09 June 22 23:41 BST (UK)
Thanks for this, I managed to save quite a bit of money in the flash sale.
Title: Re: 1921 Census
Post by: Gadget on Thursday 09 June 22 23:58 BST (UK)

I'm a Pro subscriber to FindMyPast, also have TNA account and neither organisation contacted me - only heard about it through kind Rootschatters sharing

Same here but I think I opted out of FindMyPast e-mails. I did get an e-mail from TNA today  though.

We do get a 10% discount as subscribers ordinarily.
Title: Re: 1921 Census
Post by: Top-of-the-hill on Friday 10 June 22 10:30 BST (UK)
  Unfortunately I can't think of anything now I want to check. I have already got the few obvious ones. More general local history research is going to have to wait.
Title: Re: 1921 Census 50% Discount
Post by: James18 on Friday 10 June 22 14:56 BST (UK)
Email from TNA just now saying there's a one day only 50% discount on the 1921 census - from 12:00 BST today until 12:00 BST tomorrow (Friday 10th June).

I haven't tried it yet... but 50% off is starting to tempt me for some special records.

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The 50% off discount is automatically applied at checkout, with no code required. No subscription is needed to take advantage of the offer. 12-month Pro subscribers who already benefit from 10% off 1921 Census purchases will automatically have their discount increased to 50% for the offer period. The offer applies only to 1921 Census image and transcript purchases.
As in lunchtime today? Damn, missed it.
Title: Re: 1921 Census
Post by: Comberton on Thursday 30 June 22 12:14 BST (UK)
Half price 1921 Census, ends midday BST Friday 1st July 2022
Title: Re: 1921 Census
Post by: ShaunJ on Thursday 30 June 22 14:21 BST (UK)
This is the link they sent me for the 50% discount offer: https://tinyurl.com/55w82tut
Title: Re: 1921 Census
Post by: Gadget on Thursday 30 June 22 15:25 BST (UK)
Half price 1921 Census, ends midday BST Friday 1st July 2022

I had this e-mail notification which was dated 11.45 am.

Add - received an e-mail from NatArch at 16.22!
Title: Re: 1921 Census
Post by: LizzieL on Thursday 30 June 22 15:38 BST (UK)
Half price 1921 Census, ends midday BST Friday 1st July 2022

I had this e-mail notification which was dated 11.45 am.

Mine was 11.49 am  ;D
Title: Re: 1921 Census
Post by: BumbleB on Thursday 30 June 22 16:18 BST (UK)
11.48 for me.  I have taken extra advantage.  I was surprised to see the reason  :-\ :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X
Title: Re: 1921 Census
Post by: Nick_Ips on Thursday 30 June 22 16:24 BST (UK)
I was surprised to see the reason

I wonder whether - regardless of the reasons given in the emails - the true reason is a disappointing take up of the census at normal prices and them hoping to raise some revenue at 50% off before they have to discount further.

The frequency of the 50% offers makes me wonder whether buying additional records now makes sense, or if it would be better to wait for bigger discounts.
Title: Re: 1921 Census
Post by: James18 on Thursday 30 June 22 16:29 BST (UK)
It may well just be that, like me, many people resent being charged for individual records and are (reluctantly) willing to wait until the 1921 census ends up on Ancestry.
Title: Re: 1921 Census
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Thursday 30 June 22 17:05 BST (UK)
Half price 1921 Census, ends midday BST Friday 1st July 2022

I had this e-mail notification which was dated 11.45 am.

Mine was 11.49 am  ;D

Beat you all  :D    11.34am for me  ;)

Title: Re: 1921 Census
Post by: Deirdre784 on Thursday 30 June 22 17:07 BST (UK)
Huh, 16:17 for me, though i had seen it posted elsewhere before that
Title: Re: 1921 Census
Post by: Top-of-the-hill on Thursday 30 June 22 18:36 BST (UK)
  "I was surprised to see the reason"  What was the reason given? There was no explanation in my email?
Title: Re: 1921 Census
Post by: melba_schmelba on Thursday 30 June 22 18:59 BST (UK)
  "I was surprised to see the reason"  What was the reason given? There was no explanation in my email?
"As Pride Month draws to a close, this week we are taking a look at historical LGBTQ+ stories, from famous figures to the everyday lives of the LGBTQ+ population. Find out about our exciting new installation and discover how LGBTQ+ people found connections throughout the 1920s in our new video.

Findmypast are offering 50% off 1921 Census records - read on to find out more. To celebrate, take a look at some of their content about LGBTQ+ people through history."


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRb4eQUTnUs
Title: Re: 1921 Census
Post by: LizzieL on Thursday 30 June 22 19:06 BST (UK)
  "I was surprised to see the reason"  What was the reason given? There was no explanation in my email?
"As Pride Month draws to a close, this week we are taking a look at historical LGBTQ+ stories, from famous figures to the everyday lives of the LGBTQ+ population. Find out about our exciting new installation and discover how LGBTQ+ people found connections throughout the 1920s in our new video.

Findmypast are offering 50% off 1921 Census records - read on to find out more. To celebrate, take a look at some of their content about LGBTQ+ people through history."


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRb4eQUTnUs

I got that on a later message from the National Archive not from the email from FindMyPast
Title: Re: 1921 Census
Post by: Tickettyboo on Friday 01 July 22 10:01 BST (UK)
hmm its all well and good to have a flash sale but only if you can see what you have just paid for.

I purchased a 1921 image this morning, clicking to go to the image resulted in  - zilch. It eventually times out and said the site was down for maintenance.

Yes I realise that I will get it eventually, when they have sorted their latest 'technical problem'but its annoying.

Boo
Title: Re: 1921 Census
Post by: LizzieL on Friday 01 July 22 10:31 BST (UK)
hmm its all well and good to have a flash sale but only if you can see what you have just paid for.

I purchased a 1921 image this morning, clicking to go to the image resulted in  - zilch. It eventually times out and said the site was down for maintenance.

Yes I realise that I will get it eventually, when they have sorted their latest 'technical problem'but its annoying.

Boo

I've had 'down for maintenance ' message twice this morning, both times when trying to view a census image after seeing the transcript first. Not 1921, but earlier censuses covered by my sub.
Title: Re: 1921 Census
Post by: bendywendy on Tuesday 18 October 22 16:15 BST (UK)
Hi everyone
Is anyone able to assist me with 1921 census please, thanks.
Title: Re: 1921 Census
Post by: PaulineJ on Tuesday 18 October 22 19:26 BST (UK)
Hi everyone
Is anyone able to assist me with 1921 census please, thanks.

We may be able to direct you to a candidate record , but we cannot provide a lookup. Many libraries have a FindMyPast subscription available to use.

Pauline
Title: Re: 1921 Census
Post by: bendywendy on Wednesday 19 October 22 09:54 BST (UK)
PaulineJ
Many thanks, I will enquire with my local library if the provide this service.

Q. Can one not look at the list for all those in the household as we could do with the 1911 census ??

Thanks
Title: Re: 1921 Census
Post by: rosie99 on Wednesday 19 October 22 10:55 BST (UK)
It is possible for you to 'play' with the free search on FindMyPast and get that information
Title: Re: 1921 Census
Post by: Tickettyboo on Wednesday 19 October 22 11:19 BST (UK)
Hi everyone
Is anyone able to assist me with 1921 census please, thanks.

Seeing the actual images/transcriptions for free is only possible at the National Archives, Manchester Central Library and National Library of Wales.
Though your local library may have access to FindMyPast, its doubtful the library edition will include full access to the 1921 census.


If you sign up for a free FindMyPast Account then you can search the census and as rosie99 says 'play' with the search terms to try to ascertain who was in each household via search results - lots of help/advice on how to search is available - post some names /dates and we can use those as an example - but obviously can't give details other than those which are available from a free search.

Access to the images/household transcripts comes at a cost.

https://www.findmypast.co.uk/1921-census
Scroll down that page to see their Frequently Asked Questions

Boo
Title: Re: 1921 Census
Post by: Nick_Ips on Thursday 20 October 22 10:22 BST (UK)

Though your local library may have access to FindMyPast, its doubtful the library edition will include full access to the 1921 census.

Library users effectively get some of the same features you get with a Pro subcription - unlike Ancestry that have a dedicated Library Edition, the FindMyPast 'Library Edition' is effectively just allowing non-subscribers access as if they were a Pro subscriber, whilst they are logged in using a computer in a library (i.e. broadly equivalent to the free weekends).

So currently no library access to 1921 transcripts or images unless you ppv, or are already a Premium subscriber.

My guess is the 1921 census won't be free to use in libraries until Summer/Autum 2023.