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Title: Members ready to help you!
Post by: alderjones on Thursday 09 September 21 10:58 BST (UK)
Am I the only person watching the number of members ready to help you message as the number increases! It's interesting to see presumably new members joining all the time. Just waiting for it to hit 280,000 now.
But - does anyone ever get removed? If someone dies and notification is passed on do they get removed from this number? How many of the 279,000 plus are active or have logged in in say the last 12 months?
Title: Re: Members ready to help you!
Post by: louisa maud on Thursday 09 September 21 16:32 BST (UK)
I  do  know  a  dear  friend of  mine who died,   I  did  pass the  info onto  a  moderator, don't  know  what  happened after that , assumed  her  name  was removed

Louisa  Maud
Title: Re: Members ready to help you!
Post by: ThrelfallYorky on Thursday 09 September 21 16:43 BST (UK)
I think I dimly recall "deceased + date" being added on one post I saw, to the name. I could be wrong....
TY
Title: Re: Members ready to help you!
Post by: Girl Guide on Thursday 09 September 21 17:41 BST (UK)
Well I suppose it depends on whether the deceased's relatives are aware that he/she was a member of Rootschat.  If the relative is able to access their computer and knows the password for Rootschat then notification can be given that the Rootschatter has passed away.

I would imagine that there are quite a number of registered Rootschatters who haven't been online for several years and have probably passed on.

We quite often see old threads being re-activated by an enquirer.
Title: Re: Members ready to help you!
Post by: Little Nell on Thursday 09 September 21 18:15 BST (UK)
If we are notified that a RootsChatter has passed away, their profile is edited to show

Deceased † Rest In Peace

But as Girl Guide says, we are not always informed if friends or family are not aware that someone was a member.

Some people join and only use the chatroom.  Others join but make no postings - quite a few of those.  But their names remain on the list of members.

You can always check to see when someone last logged in by viewing their profile.  I just picked one at random who joined in 2004 but had made no postings.  They last logged in in 2006.

But there are plenty of us still around who joined a long time ago and still going strong.  ;D

Nell
Title: Re: Members ready to help you!
Post by: louisa maud on Thursday 09 September 21 18:29 BST (UK)
Which reminds  me I must  tell my family my subscriptions, it will tidy  things  up but  not  for a  long time

LM
Title: Re: Members ready to help you!
Post by: candotout on Thursday 09 September 21 18:46 BST (UK)
How many inactive users are 'logged-in'? How many of those will ever access Rootschat in the future?

When anyone logs-in to RootsChat, the default option is to stay connected. The user has to actively uncheck the box to prevent this.

Sarah and Trystan are certainly aware that there is a limit to how many simultaneous connections can be active on any server (even for Google & Facebook!).

There may also be security risks to allowing your device to stay connected.

I would advise RootsChat to reverse their default option, or, better yet, to automatically log-out any user after a reasonable period (1 hour?) of inactivity.

It would not be complicated to send an automatic email to any user who has been inactive for a very long period (2 years?) to forewarn that their account will be closed after a period (3 months?).

For users, I would STRONGLY advise that you always set yourself a time limit to stay connected.

GENEALOOGY CAN BE ADDICTIVE !!!

p.s. on the subject of 'security'; a user's activity pattern can be extremely revealing: It would be nice to see this feature eliminated when looking at a user profile. My house-burglar friends really love this sort of information!!!
Title: Re: Members ready to help you!
Post by: aghadowey on Thursday 09 September 21 19:28 BST (UK)
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It would not be complicated to send an automatic email to any user who has been inactive for a very long period (2 years?) to forewarn that their account will be closed after a period (3 months?).
Why? it's often the case that someone comes across an old thread/post and posts a reply to someone who has been seemingly inactive a long time. With your suggestion the user would not get notified that there is a reply to that thread and may miss out on connecting with a long-lost or previously unknown relative.
You also can't tell from looking at a profile whether or not a user has been following a particular topic (or board or indeed all new posts) without logging in. Some people probably only log in if they are going to make a post.

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p.s. on the subject of 'security'; a user's activity pattern can be extremely revealing: It would be nice to see this feature eliminated when looking at a user profile. My house-burglar friends really love this sort of information!!!
Not at all. How on earth can the user's activity pattern be revealing to complete strangers? If, for example, I'm not online it doesn't mean that I'm away from home. I could be out in the garden, doing housework, making meals, doing something else on my computer or any number of things. It also doesn't mean that my house is empty waiting to be burgled as there are others in the household.
Title: Re: Members ready to help you!
Post by: Girl Guide on Thursday 09 September 21 19:40 BST (UK)
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Not at all. How on earth can the user's activity pattern be revealing to complete strangers? If, for example, I'm not online it doesn't mean that I'm away from home. I could be out in the garden, doing housework, making meals, doing something else on my computer or any number of things. It also doesn't mean that my house is empty waiting to be burgled as there are others in the household.

Absolutely true aghadowey - I quite often nip off to do something else for a while then come back and carry on with whatever I was doing on the computer.
Title: Re: Members ready to help you!
Post by: suey on Friday 10 September 21 11:29 BST (UK)

I’m always logged in, can’t see any reason not to be. If for some reason I do get logged out I have to re set my password because I can never remember it. 

On the subject of old posts, I was contacted just yesterday by someone who found an old one of mine. We’d been in contact years ago but lost touch.



Title: Re: Members ready to help you!
Post by: Nanna52 on Friday 10 September 21 11:44 BST (UK)
I first found Rootschat after I searched for a name that had cropped up in my research.  It was from a post about a year old and the response helped me place him and the writer of an old postcard I found.  He was married to a descendant of my two times great grandmothers sister and she was from another line descended from that same sister.  Without this help I would not have realised there was another branch of the family in Australia.  If the poster had not been contacted I may never have found them.
Title: Re: Members ready to help you!
Post by: louisa maud on Friday 10 September 21 12:00 BST (UK)
Thank  goodness  for  all Rootschatters

.louisa  Maud 
Title: Re: Members ready to help you!
Post by: suey on Friday 10 September 21 12:52 BST (UK)
Thank  goodness  for  all Rootschatters

.louisa  Maud

Indeed  :D.  I wouldn’t agree with deleting any member no matter how long they had been inactive. 
Title: Re: Members ready to help you!
Post by: Galium on Friday 10 September 21 12:57 BST (UK)
If we are notified that a RootsChatter has passed away, their profile is edited to show

Deceased † Rest In Peace



I have seen this once or twice, and would like to say this.  If  the Rootschatter whose profile is marked in this way is known to have been a Christian, then of course the † is fine, but not all of us are Christians. 
Title: Re: Members ready to help you!
Post by: aghadowey on Friday 10 September 21 13:03 BST (UK)
I think † or + are recognised symbols indicating death in many countries.
Title: Re: Members ready to help you!
Post by: Galium on Friday 10 September 21 13:17 BST (UK)
Thanks, I thought it was just a Christian thing being used too generally -like saying 'Christian name when 'fore name' is what is meant.  Still, I'd take a guess that it is more likely to be used in nominally Christian countries.
Title: Re: Members ready to help you!
Post by: pharmaT on Friday 10 September 21 13:18 BST (UK)
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Not at all. How on earth can the user's activity pattern be revealing to complete strangers? If, for example, I'm not online it doesn't mean that I'm away from home. I could be out in the garden, doing housework, making meals, doing something else on my computer or any number of things. It also doesn't mean that my house is empty waiting to be burgled as there are others in the household.

Absolutely true aghadowey - I quite often nip off to do something else for a while then come back and carry on with whatever I was doing on the computer.

i have also used Rc when not at home
Title: Re: Members ready to help you!
Post by: ThrelfallYorky on Friday 10 September 21 16:19 BST (UK)
Must admit I only very rarely log out, like PharmaT I can often use different machines - and I hate trying to remember fresh passwords!
(Haven't we got rather away from the original point?)
Title: Re: Members ready to help you!
Post by: Erato on Friday 10 September 21 16:33 BST (UK)
"does anyone ever get removed"

I don't think anyone gets entirely removed but some have been converted into "leavers" and at least one got converted into a "guest."  If you come across a "leaver," you can access his/her profile and posts but the "guest's" profile and posts are unavailable.
Title: Re: Members ready to help you!
Post by: Maiden Stone on Friday 10 September 21 16:54 BST (UK)
Am I the only person watching the number of members ready to help you message as the number increases! It's interesting to see presumably new members joining all the time. Just waiting for it to hit 280,000 now.

I've never seen the member statistics.
Coincidently I'm currently listening to "More or Less", BBC Radio 4, "the programme that interrogates topical numbers and statistics".
Title: Re: Members ready to help you!
Post by: sarah on Friday 10 September 21 17:10 BST (UK)
We do try to keep profiles upto date so that any poster can see, we have our deceased members and also some members whose email has stopped working, but old members do frequently get intouch to update to their new emails addresses

Guests are folk who have asked for their profile to be deleted.

We have a lot of member who do family history in fits and starts so may only log in when they receive a new reply to their topics.

Hope that helps

Sarah
Title: Re: Members ready to help you!
Post by: KGarrad on Friday 10 September 21 21:15 BST (UK)
There's a classic example tonight.
Original post from 2007.

https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=201628.0
Title: Re: Members ready to help you!
Post by: louisa maud on Friday 10 September 21 21:31 BST (UK)
I  have  often seen older  posts being answered

A family member found me quite  by accident,  I  think  someone  must  have  seen the post  and  told  them, they  had  been discussing  it  over  Christmas dinner  in New  Zealand and  replied to me, I  also  think sometimes members  just scroll down at old  posts  that  may  not  have had many replies  and  replied themselves, done  it  myself when  I  have  been at a  loose   end for  anything that  catches  my eye

LM
Title: Re: Members ready to help you!
Post by: ThrelfallYorky on Saturday 11 September 21 16:21 BST (UK)
... I've from time to time written into the search box some name or word that has then thrown up some very elderly posts. sometimes, that's been good for me and the original poster, advanced both of us in our searches.
TY
Title: Re: Members ready to help you!
Post by: alderjones on Monday 20 September 21 16:01 BST (UK)
Well, the 280,000 was reached on Friday and now we're another 50+ into the next thousand.
Just interesting to see people are joining all the time.
Title: Re: Members ready to help you!
Post by: Maiden Stone on Monday 20 September 21 22:24 BST (UK)

I've never seen the member statistics.

I've found them, on the Home page. It also says there are "6.4 million helpful posts".
Title: Re: Members ready to help you!
Post by: coombs on Monday 20 September 21 22:39 BST (UK)
I first joined in September 2004, and my first post was asking about my Walder ancestors of Slaugham.

So much info on RC now it has become a genealogy database of its own, although the search engine often tries to "put words into my mouth" when I search for keywords, as if it thinks it knows better than me.
Title: Re: Members ready to help you!
Post by: Maiden Stone on Monday 20 September 21 22:58 BST (UK)

So much info on RC now it has become a genealogy database of its own

Occasionally, when I google a topic connected to family history, or a historical field of interest, among the results is a RootsChat post. Sometimes it's an old post by me. I'm going round in circles, meeting myself coming back.  ;D