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Title: "Woodbridge" - NSW 1838
Post by: mikell45 on Wednesday 31 August 05 14:44 BST (UK)
Looking for a picture of the "Woodbridge" that arrived in Sydney in September 1838
Best Regards,
Michael
www.sheather.co.uk
Title: Re: "Woodbridge" - NSW 1838
Post by: Shadrach on Thursday 08 September 05 06:58 BST (UK)
Hi Michael,
                I have an interest in the Woodbridge too but have not found
a picture as yet.  I have however obtained a copy of the Surgeon's Diary
from that voyage in 1838 from the National Library of Australia and part of if relates to Hannah Muddle.   On the 8th May she is said  "to have suffered with Dysentery from which she recovered.  The ships passenger list describes her as "Delicate".

 According to Surgeon  Alex Stewart's report dysentery appeared to be the main illness affecting the passengers, 47 suffered during the voyage and 2 passengers died from the illness, closely followed by 34 cases of constipation from which 1 person died. The treatment for dysentery was fairly harsh and consisted of a dose of calomel (a liver stimulant) followed by a laxative of rhubarb and magnesium, jalap (a drastic purgative)  or castor oil and later a tiniture of opium and  other similar measures. There were  a total of 10 deaths during the voyage, 7 of whom were children.   Surgeon Stewart describes the day of arrival in Sydney "September  On the 15th the Woodbridge anchored in Sydney Cove and the morning of the 18th Emigrants were disembarked, with the exception of one child all healthy.   The weather this month was generally fine, with light and moderate breezes.  No rain, Thermometer averaged 50 deg. max, 67deg in Sydney Cove". 


Hope you find this interesting.
Shadrach
Title: Re: "Woodbridge" - NSW 1838
Post by: mikell45 on Thursday 08 September 05 07:37 BST (UK)
Hello Shadrach,
Thank you very much for the response. I do have a copy of the 8 page report "General Remarks" of the "Woodbridge" My 3 X Great grandmother, Sarah Jane Biffin, was born on board and her sister Diana died on board aged 18 months.
In addition to any picture of the ship, I am trying to assertain if a step-brother of Sarah's, John, also travelled. I have seen a typed transcript listing him but I question this "Woodbridge" passenger list as it provides additional information on the families on board that would not have been given on any originaly passenger manifest. My problem is that there is a John Biffin that fits exactly with this john but had to have either remained in Wiltshire or travelled tp Sydney and returned.
As I am now in the UK (no shipping records here prior to 1890) and cannot access the microfilm in the NSW State Archives, I am stuck  ::)
Thanks again for the reply and all the best with your research.
Michael
London
www.sheather.co.uk
Title: Re: "Woodbridge" - NSW 1838
Post by: Shadrach on Tuesday 13 September 05 07:03 BST (UK)
Michael,
Sometime in the next couple of weeks I am planning
to visit our local history society where they hold
shipping records for NSW on microfilm so if you have not
solved the puzzle of John Biffin by then I will have a
look at the film.

Shadrach
Title: Re: "Woodbridge" - NSW 1838
Post by: mikell45 on Tuesday 13 September 05 08:01 BST (UK)
Hello Shadrach,
Thank you for your generous offer - I will let you know if I come up with anything in the mean time. I am kicking myself that I did not check at the State Archives while I was living in Sydney.
The information I have from the Woodbridge was researched by my late mother and I presumed it complete - maybe it is not.
Again a very big thank you.
Michael
Title: No answers but a query
Post by: fyremoon on Friday 16 September 05 01:20 BST (UK)
Hi Michael and Shadrac

I hope you don't mind me tacking onto the end with my questions, seeing as I don't have any answers for you, but I'm also interested in the Woodbridge.  I'm told by a 4th cousin who is also researching this family that my ancestor James Goodwin arrived in Australia aboard this ship in 1838, but that he doesn't appear on the passenger list.  We think he was most likely a crew member.  Is there any way to find out about the crew of this ship?

You both most likely have this info but I thought I'd post the link just in case it helps someone:

http://www.xroyvision.com.au/andrews/history/hist4.htm

Leigh
Title: Re: "Woodbridge" - NSW 1838
Post by: Shadrach on Friday 16 September 05 08:18 BST (UK)
The microcfilm of the ship's records may show
crew and I will look for James Goodwin at the
same time.   It could also be a case of someone
miss spelling his name, just to confuse us!
Shadarch
Title: Re: "Woodbridge" - NSW 1838
Post by: wisby on Friday 16 September 05 08:51 BST (UK)
Hi Shadrach, I don't know if this will help you but I have a copy of the sick list for the Woodbridge and it shows on the 10th May 1838 Jas Goodwin age 36 Dysentry cured.
Regards
Nola.
Title: Re: "Woodbridge" - NSW 1838
Post by: Shadrach on Friday 16 September 05 08:58 BST (UK)
You are absolutely right Nola, after ransacking
my fileing cabinet I found he is listed in the Surgeon's
report as
"Jas. Goodwin,
age 36,
Disease - Dysentery
May 12th
Cured

Good Work 99!



Title: Re: "Woodbridge" sick list - NSW 1838
Post by: fyremoon on Saturday 17 September 05 06:16 BST (UK)
WOW Thank you very much!  Editing to say that after looking up the info I have on my James, the ages don't match at all... but I'm keeping an open mind. 

He married a convict in Australia and was listed on their 1838 permission to marry as being 29 and coming free per Woodbridge.

So anyone not on the passenger list who then appeared on the sick list must be crew.  Are there many?  Sounds like a lot of those on board were ill that trip.

Thanks so much :)

Leigh
Title: Re: "Woodbridge" - NSW 1838
Post by: Shadrach on Tuesday 04 October 05 03:22 BST (UK)
Hello again Michael,
I haven't forgotten about John Biffin but my visit
to our local history centre proved fruitless as their
shipping records date from 1839 so  just miss
out by a few months and I will have to look
further afield in the coming weeks.

Shadrach.

Title: Re: "Woodbridge" - NSW 1838
Post by: mikell45 on Tuesday 04 October 05 07:39 BST (UK)
Thanks Shadrach,
Maybe the reocrds are only available through the NSW State Records Office. One office in the Rocks which I've visited and another in the western Suburbs (tried to check the address but the site is presently down).
Thanks again
Michael.
Title: Re: "Woodbridge" - NSW 1838
Post by: zorba on Wednesday 12 October 05 21:38 BST (UK)
Shradrach,
Sorry to have missed the boat (to coin a phrase) but I've only just discovered this site!

Like others I too have a suspicion that my ancestor Peter Andrews may have travelled with his relatives Abraham and Sarah Andrews aboard the Woodbridge in 1838. He seems to have disappeared around this time leaving behind his wife and family in Wiltshire.

Any chance you could check the records in your possession once again for this name - perhaps he was also taken on board as crew rather than for an assisted passage.

Regards,
Zorba
Title: Re: "Woodbridge" - NSW 1838
Post by: Shadrach on Thursday 13 October 05 08:53 BST (UK)
Hello Zorba,
You haven't missed the boat, it's a very
slow one, so I'll look for your people too.

Shadrach

Title: Re: "Woodbridge" - NSW 1838
Post by: Shadrach on Sunday 16 October 05 08:17 BST (UK)
Hello again Zorba

While I still have not had a chance to look at the
original ship's passenger list I did look at
the Surgeon's Sick List of which I have a copy.

No Peter Andrews listed as sick but these members of the Andrews
family are listed -

George Andrews
Jane Andrews (she show up twice)
Abr. Andews  & 
Mrs Andrew

Maybe we will be lucky with the microfilm.
Shadrach
Title: Re: "Woodbridge" - NSW 1838
Post by: zorba on Sunday 16 October 05 16:55 BST (UK)
Shadrach,
                Brilliant thanks - I should of course have asked you to check all the Andrews entries - so thanks for being one step ahead here!

                 It seems that all these Andrews are probably related to Peter directly or indirectly so with all the information at my fingertips perhaps I shall be able to work out what is going on!

Regards,
              Richard
Title: Re: "Woodbridge" - NSW 1838
Post by: Shadrach on Monday 24 October 05 08:38 BST (UK)
Could not find either John Biffin or
Peter Andrews in the passenger list.

There is an entry for what looks like "Thms or
ThL. Baffin" 
Native of W.Lavany? Wiltshire
Son of John Biffin of the same place
Farm Labourer
44 years in Aug.1838
Very Good Health
Church of England
Cannot Read or Write

Is he yours?

Shadrach
Title: Re: "Woodbridge" - NSW 1838
Post by: mikell45 on Monday 24 October 05 08:55 BST (UK)
Hello Shadrach
Yes, Thms Baffin is my Thomas Biffin of West Lavington "Cannot read or write". The Biffin's are all of humble ag labourer stock and explains the corruption of the surname Beaven/Beavan/Biffon/Biffan/Biffin etc etc

It's fantastic that you were able to check the shipping records for us, the confirmation that John Biffin was not on the ship is what I was looking for.

A BIG THANK YOU
Michael
Title: Re: "Woodbridge" - NSW 1838
Post by: zorba on Monday 24 October 05 20:09 BST (UK)
Shadrach,
                You certainly provide a sterling service on this topic - thanks for all your hard work.

                 It's not necessarily a bad result - it indicates that Peter did not leave the country at this point - so further research in the UK is justified.

                 Thanks again.

Zorba
Title: Re: "Woodbridge" - NSW 1838
Post by: Shadrach on Monday 24 October 05 23:23 BST (UK)
You are both very welcome!

Bye from Oz

Shardrach
Title: Re: "Woodbridge" - NSW 1838
Post by: yrrek on Saturday 16 August 08 03:12 BST (UK)
Hi All,

Apologies for tacking onto your discussion so late, but I also have an interest in the Woodbridge and an interested in tracing all the descendants of the 57 emigrants from Bishopstone. To date I haev establsihed a relationship to 38 of those souls.

Please contact me if you are a descendant or have s similar interest.
I have details from the Bounty Immigrant Records and also reasonable access to the State Archives microfilm.

If still looking I can help Richard with details of the Andrews family I have; I have them back to about 1700.

My specific interests are the Gibbs, Case, Lanham and Andrews Families.

Looking forward to hearing from anyone.
Regards
Kerry
from Sunny Grafton.
Title: Re: "Woodbridge" - NSW 1838
Post by: Shadrach on Saturday 16 August 08 03:59 BST (UK)
Hi Kerry, 
My interest is in the Muddle family - Charles Muddle and his wife Hannah Cooke.   Are they one of the families of interest to you?

shadrach
Title: Re: "Woodbridge" - NSW 1838
Post by: yrrek on Saturday 16 August 08 05:39 BST (UK)
Hi Shadrach,

Thanks for your reply, but I don't think the Muddle family are conencted with our Bishosptone families, which all came from Witshire.

I'll get back in touch if I find a conenction.

Regards
Kerry
Title: Re: "Woodbridge" - NSW 1838
Post by: BMB on Monday 07 March 11 17:50 GMT (UK)
Hi Kerry
I have just come across your post. My great great grandfather James Case came from Bishopstone and was the brother of Thomas Case, Ann Lanham, and Susan Gibbs who travelled to Australia on the Woodbridge. About a year ago I managed to find their names on a passenger list but I stupidly didn't make a copy so I am trying to find them again.
I know that Thomas Case married Maria Mussel and I would be very interested to find out what happened to these families after they arrived in Australia
BMB
Title: Re: "Woodbridge" - NSW 1838
Post by: yrrek on Friday 11 March 11 20:50 GMT (UK)
Hi BMB,

Would love to exchange Case info with you and let you know all about the Australian connection.

I have some of James' descendants; supplied several years ago by Sylvia Avery-Cranmer in the US. Would love to add you and yours to the tree.

Will forward a personal message. Looking forward to hearing from you.

Regards
Kerry
Title: Re: "Woodbridge" - NSW 1838
Post by: yrrek on Friday 11 March 11 21:01 GMT (UK)
Hi BMB,

Should have been merry@ ; system wouldn't let me send another persoan email. Don't know why.

Regards
Kerry
Title: Re: "Woodbridge" - NSW 1838
Post by: krisesjoint on Friday 11 March 11 22:54 GMT (UK)
Hi BMB,

Please reply here a couple of times, to enable Kerry to contact you privately. New members need to have made 3 postings before the PM (personal message) system is fully functional. We use this system to share email addresses and other personal information.

Information on PM's

http://www.rootschat.com/help/pms.php

All the best in the contact

Cheers Kris  :)
Title: Re: "Woodbridge" - NSW 1838
Post by: yrrek on Saturday 12 March 11 00:37 GMT (UK)
Thanks Kris,

Regards
Kerry
Title: Re: "Woodbridge" - NSW 1838
Post by: BMB on Saturday 12 March 11 08:42 GMT (UK)
Thanks Kris. This is my first reply
BMB
Title: Re: "Woodbridge" - NSW 1838
Post by: BMB on Saturday 12 March 11 08:44 GMT (UK)
And again!
BMB
Title: Re: "Woodbridge" - NSW 1838
Post by: Kitch on Monday 01 August 11 13:10 BST (UK)
I am new to the Australian list. Am looking for the passenger list for the WOODBRIDGE. Does anyone know if it's online?
I am looking for Lewis Humphreys who is reported to have been shipped to Sydney on the Woodbridge after being convicted of being a member of the Chartists in Llanidloes mid Wales. He was born illegit to John Humphreys and Elizabeth Jerman in Llanidloes in 1810.
It would be nice to see his name on the passenger list, or the Surgeons list.
Thank you.
Ann.
Title: Re: "Woodbridge" - NSW 1838
Post by: yrrek on Tuesday 02 August 11 00:20 BST (UK)
Hi Ann,

A different sailing of the Woodbridge, but I have found some details on your Lewis, please reply if you need more info/source for any:

Lewis Humphreys aged 29 yrs convicted for 7 years transportation at Montgomeryshire, Wales. Sailed 10/10/1939 aboard "Woodbridge" arrived Sydney, New South Wales 1840; was boot & shoemaker.

Issued Certificate of Freedom 27/8/1846 #46/813 (contains full description of Lewis)

Possible Marriage in 1846 to Rose Newman at Scots Church Pitt St Sydney (Presbyterian) and son William born 1852 (only child of this marriage).

Possible Death 1853 in New South Wales.

Trust this is your fellow.
Regards
Kerry
Title: Re: "Woodbridge" - NSW 1838
Post by: cando on Tuesday 02 August 11 03:19 BST (UK)
You can search here ;D
http://srwww.records.nsw.gov.au/indexes/searchform.aspx?id=65

and here

NSW bdm's
http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/cgi-bin/Index/IndexingOrder.cgi/search?event=births

He was bigamist  ;)- bottom of page 2nd column
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0ei4/

Cheers
Cando
Title: Re: "Woodbridge" - NSW 1838
Post by: cando on Tuesday 02 August 11 03:31 BST (UK)
Newspaper snippet of arrival
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0ei5/

Perhaps you may like to add some information to this project
http://www.convictrecords.com.au/convicts/ship-name/woodbridge

Cheers
Cando
Title: Re: "Woodbridge" - NSW 1838
Post by: Kitch on Tuesday 02 August 11 12:32 BST (UK)
Wow, thank you all very much for all this info. I will need a while to read and digest it all.
Bye for now!
Ann.
Title: Re: "Woodbridge" - NSW 1838
Post by: Gwen52 on Thursday 17 November 11 10:10 GMT (UK)
Some of my family where on the ship Woodbridge in 1838, Walter Harman age 25 years his wife Mary Ann Harman age 26 years, daughters Harriet age 6 years, Mary Ann age 4 years and son Edward Harman age 2 years all from Sussex England. this all I have if any one can help that would be great.
This is my first time on here hope i got it right Glenda ::)
Title: Re: "Woodbridge" - NSW 1838
Post by: Shadrach on Saturday 19 November 11 01:37 GMT (UK)
Hi Gwen,
I would recommend getting a copy of the Surgeon's Journal from the National Library - it is very interesting reading and you can request a copy online.

There are a couple of mentions to your family - on the 6th May Harriet "Harmer" age 5 is recorded as suffering from Dysentery and said to be "cured"
On 18th September, the day the ship arrived in Sydney,  Edward "Harmer" age 1 is recorded as suffering from Dystenery and said to have been "sent on shore".
Shadrach
 
Title: Re: "Woodbridge" - NSW 1838
Post by: lindamaree63 on Wednesday 30 November 11 02:59 GMT (UK)
Hi

I am new to this site, so forgive me if I do not do the right thing.  My family tree has been traced back to the "Woodbridge" which arrived in 1838.  There names are Henry & Jane (Chant) Ingram along with 3 of their children, John Thomas 4, Margaret 3 & William 17 months.  Can anyone help me with any details about them and where I might find the passenger list ?

Also, I am interested in finding out more about them before they left Wiltshire England but have no idea how to go about this.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

Linda
Title: Re: "Woodbridge" - NSW 1838
Post by: Gwen52 on Wednesday 07 March 12 06:17 GMT (UK)
Hi

I am new to this site, so forgive me if I do not do the right thing.  My family tree has been traced back to the "Woodbridge" which arrived in 1838.  There names are Henry & Jane (Chant) Ingram along with 3 of their children, John Thomas 4, Margaret 3 & William 17 months.  Can anyone help me with any details about them and where I might find the passenger list ?

Also, I am interested in finding out more about them before they left Wiltshire England but have no idea how to go about this.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks
At the moment I can not find a photo of the ship

Linda

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