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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Devon => Topic started by: odbsmith on Monday 30 August 21 13:22 BST (UK)
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Has anyone else found a problem with the info they find on a Census. My niggle is the 1911. My great grandparents say they had 13 children on their census return. 6 children alive and 7 dead at the time of the census. My grand mother did say many years ago that she was the youngest of 13. I can only find a total of 11 children.
Over several years I have returned to this and checked periodically. This weekend I have checked on Ancestry, Find my Past, Family search and GRO for any births I may have missed.
Does anyone have any suggestions?
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Start by relating the 1911 in full, and the list of all known kids from the GRO index.
is this the 1911? https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XW96-W7K
name, year, place MMN, etc.
Pauline
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Perhaps sadly they had some stillbirths.
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Column 7 of the 1911 asks for “Total children born alive”. The “Born Alive” is in bold print
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13 born alive, 6 still living and 7 that have died.
I can only find Births for 11.
Yes, I can see your point reference still births, but thinking about it if a baby dies soon after birth it would technically not be stillborn but is there a chance the parents not registered the birth??
Saying that, 4 of the births/deaths that they did register the child was 3 to 6 months old. The 5th one that was not alive at the 1911 census was their first child born 1874, died 1899 aged 24.
I have checked all the births I have at GRO, and even searched the years 1870 to 1897, 2 years at a time, male and female, and searched all other obvious avenues (About 5 times over the past 15 years)
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Again,provide the list of GRO entries.
Maybe someone here can spot an error / omission
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Possibly children born before marriage and registered in mother's maiden name?
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Birth KING, THOMAS JAMES JOHNS
GRO Reference: 1874 D Quarter in PLYMOUTH Volume 05B Page 256
Death KING, THOMAS 24
GRO Reference: 1899 S Quarter in PLYMOUTH Volume 05B Page 145
Birth KING, GEORGE JOHNS
GRO Reference: 1879 D Quarter in PLYMOUTH Volume 05B Page 24
Death KING, GEORGE 0
GRO Reference: 1880 M Quarter in PLYMOUTH Volume 05B Page 216
Birth KING, FREDERICK JOHN JOHNS
GRO Reference: 1884 D Quarter in PLYMOUTH Volume 05B Page 250
Death KING, FREDERICK JOHN 0
GRO Reference: 1885 M Quarter in PLYMOUTH Volume 05B Page 181
Birth KING, WILLIAM HENRY JOHNS
GRO Reference: 1891 J Quarter in PLYMOUTH Volume 05B Page 267
Death KING, WILLIAM HENRY 0
GRO Reference: 1891 S Quarter in PLYMOUTH Volume 05B Page 156
Birth KING, WILLIAM HENRY JOHNS
GRO Reference: 1893 M Quarter in PLYMOUTH Volume 05B Page 239
Death KING, WILLIAM HENRY 1
GRO Reference: 1894 M Quarter in PLYMOUTH Volume 05B Page 242
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KING, HARRIET ELLEN JOHNS
GRO Reference: 1898 M Quarter in PLYMOUTH Volume 05B Page 206
Died 1989
KING, EMMA ANN JOHNS
GRO Reference: 1889 M Quarter in PLYMOUTH Volume 05B Page 250
Died 1986
KING, FREDERICK JOHN JOHNS
GRO Reference: 1886 J Quarter in PLYMOUTH Volume 05B Page 250
Died 1955
KING, FLORENCE MABEL JOHNS
GRO Reference: 1883 M Quarter in PLYMOUTH Volume 05B Page 264
Died 1919
Birth KING, GEORGE JOHNS
GRO Reference: 1881 M Quarter in PLYMOUTH Volume 05B Page 250
Died 1916
Birth KING, WILLIAM JAMES JOHN JOHNS
GRO Reference: 1877 D Quarter in PLYMOUTH Volume 05B Page 263
Died 1946
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Unlikley she had children before marriage as she was 16 when wed in 1873, but i did a quick check back to 1870.