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Title: Wanganui Chronicle Obituary 8 August 1952
Post by: Pendlewitch67 on Sunday 29 August 21 19:35 BST (UK)
Good evening

In researching an ancestor, William Harris, who left England, I found his final residence to be Wanganui where he died 1952. On the family tree research site I found reference to his obituary for 8 August 1952. The Web page makes reference to members of the Rush family including Charles Spurgeon Rush, secretary of United Order of Druids who died 7 August 1952.

I can't help but wonder if reference to the Rush family in my ancestor's obituary is a mistake. At the moment, I can make no connection with the Rushs and my Harris family.

I was hoping through this particular website further information could be accessed as to whether the Rush family were actually mentioned in William's obituary. There is an image but I am not a subscriber.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QGTV-LB8K

Any help would be very much appreciated.

Thank you.

Amanda



Title: Re: Wanganui Chronicle Obituary 8 August 1952
Post by: kiwihalfpint on Sunday 29 August 21 20:07 BST (UK)
Hi Amanda,

As you have posted on the Resources and Offers Board, I have asked for the moderators to move this to the Main Board where it will be seen.


Cheers
KHP
Title: Re: Wanganui Chronicle Obituary 8 August 1952
Post by: Pendlewitch67 on Sunday 29 August 21 20:46 BST (UK)
Hi Amanda,

As you have posted on the Resources and Offers Board, I have asked for the moderators to move this to the Main Board where it will be seen.


Cheers
KHP

Thank you 😊
Title: Re: Wanganui Chronicle Obituary 8 August 1952
Post by: Janette on Sunday 29 August 21 21:10 BST (UK)
Hi Amanda,

That appears to be  submitted information and has William's parents as Mr and Mrs Rush and siblings and children with the name Rush.
Maybe the submitter has it all very wrong.

Cheers Janette
Title: Re: Wanganui Chronicle Obituary 8 August 1952
Post by: Janette on Sunday 29 August 21 21:48 BST (UK)
In the 1946 electoral roll he is living at 2 College St Wanganui and there is also a married woman Lavinia Harris.
NZ BDM's has 2 births for this couple
1908/6628   Harris   Clifford William   Lavinia   William      
1912/27366   Harris   Dorothy Evelyn   Lavinia   William

Cheers Janette
Title: Re: Wanganui Chronicle Obituary 8 August 1952
Post by: Lucy2 on Sunday 29 August 21 22:14 BST (UK)
Helllo Amanda

The following is the Probate file for William HARRIS - died 1952.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KXZH-GHX

It names his wife and children ... and as a bonus, his death certificate naming his parents, is attached.

    ~  Lu
Title: Re: Wanganui Chronicle Obituary 8 August 1952
Post by: Lucy2 on Sunday 29 August 21 22:25 BST (UK)
Here is a little information regarding "Charles Spurgeon RUSH".

https://natlib.govt.nz/records/22597481
Title: Re: Wanganui Chronicle Obituary 8 August 1952
Post by: Lucy2 on Sunday 29 August 21 22:35 BST (UK)
Hi Amanda

And here also is the Probate file for Charles Spurgeon RUSH (to assist in eliminating him).
https://ndhadeliver.natlib.govt.nz/delivery/DeliveryManagerServlet?dps_pid=IE62831801

I've only browsed this file briefly ... and can see no obvious connection to your William HARRIS.

William HARRIS died 5 August 1952 at Wanganui (as you've mentioned) ... and Charles S. RUSH died on 6 August 1952 at Eltham in Taranaki (an adjoining province).

It's probable that their death notices / and or obituaries were published in the same newspaper and on the same day ... and that may be the only connection between these men.  ??

    ~   Lu

 
Title: Re: Wanganui Chronicle Obituary 8 August 1952
Post by: Lucy2 on Sunday 29 August 21 22:47 BST (UK)
Hello again Amanda

Unfortunately our PapersPast website here does not yet cover newspapers for 1952.

The National Library of New Zealand (NatLib) may be able to assist you though with a copy of the items published in the "Wanganui Chronicle" of 8 August 1952.  (Request both William HARRIS and Charles S. RUSH items).

Use the "ask a Librarian" facility at the following link >
https://natlib.govt.nz/

Good luck.   :)

    ~  Lu

PS:   NatLib temporarily closed due to COVID-19 Lockdown so there may be a delay in obtaining info.    ;)
Title: Re: Wanganui Chronicle Obituary 8 August 1952
Post by: Pendlewitch67 on Monday 30 August 21 16:49 BST (UK)
Hi Amanda,

That appears to be  submitted information and has William's parents as Mr and Mrs Rush and siblings and children with the name Rush.
Maybe the submitter has it all very wrong.

Cheers Janette

Hi Jeanette

I would tend to agree. 

Thank you.

Kind regards
Amanda
Title: Re: Wanganui Chronicle Obituary 8 August 1952
Post by: Pendlewitch67 on Monday 30 August 21 16:51 BST (UK)
In the 1946 electoral roll he is living at 2 College St Wanganui and there is also a married woman Lavinia Harris.
NZ BDM's has 2 births for this couple
1908/6628   Harris   Clifford William   Lavinia   William      
1912/27366   Harris   Dorothy Evelyn   Lavinia   William

Cheers Janette

Thank you for the electoral roll details. Lavinia is William's wife and Clifford and Dorothy their children.

 ;D
Title: Re: Wanganui Chronicle Obituary 8 August 1952
Post by: Pendlewitch67 on Monday 30 August 21 16:56 BST (UK)
Helllo Amanda

The following is the Probate file for William HARRIS - died 1952.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KXZH-GHX

It names his wife and children ... and as a bonus, his death certificate naming his parents, is attached.

    ~  Lu
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Hi Lu

After many years of searching for William I had the idea to consider he may have emigrated from England and after trawling through many possibilities I hit the jackpot when I found his probate. His death certificate was the best piece of evidence I could have hoped for. New Zealand probate records are worth their weight in gold.

Thank you.

Kind regards
Amanda.
Title: Re: Wanganui Chronicle Obituary 8 August 1952
Post by: Pendlewitch67 on Monday 30 August 21 16:58 BST (UK)
Hi Amanda

And here also is the Probate file for Charles Spurgeon RUSH (to assist in eliminating him).
https://ndhadeliver.natlib.govt.nz/delivery/DeliveryManagerServlet?dps_pid=IE62831801

I've only browsed this file briefly ... and can see no obvious connection to your William HARRIS.

William HARRIS died 5 August 1952 at Wanganui (as you've mentioned) ... and Charles S. RUSH died on 6 August 1952 at Eltham in Taranaki (an adjoining province).

It's probable that their death notices / and or obituaries were published in the same newspaper and on the same day ... and that may be the only connection between these men.  ??

    ~   Lu

I am of the same opinion.  These two gentlemen have no connection. William was a stock inspector so unless he was also a druid I see no connection.

Thank you.