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Title: Dyball family in Scotow Norfolk
Post by: Southwinds on Sunday 29 August 21 15:02 BST (UK)
Has anyone any information about the Dyball family of Scottow?
I’ve found burial records and got back to William Dyball a Butcher 1778 - 1856
Any help appreciated
Thank you
Title: Re: Dyball family in Scotow Norfolk
Post by: amondg on Sunday 29 August 21 15:59 BST (UK)
If I have the correct one did he marry Elizabeth Cooke and then Sarah Cooper?

Born 20 April 1778 baptized 28th April.Scottow

Then he is the son of Thomas Dyball of Scottow who married Elizabeth Ayers by license 18 November 1764 at Barton Turf. Witness Thomas Dove and Joseph Ames (Joseph signs a lot so he is probably the parish clerk). All could write.
Title: Re: Dyball family in Scotow Norfolk
Post by: maddys52 on Monday 30 August 21 02:47 BST (UK)
There is a Thomas DYBALL, the younger of Scottow on the Game Duty List  for Norfolk 1787
   Saturday,  Nov. 17, 1787, Norfolk Chronicle
Title: Re: Dyball family in Scotow Norfolk
Post by: maddys52 on Monday 30 August 21 03:02 BST (UK)
A few other items from newspapers that may be of interest:

Also Thomas (the younger)  DYBALL of Scottow mentioned in a couple of advertisments for viewing an estate in Horstead in 1795. eg
   Saturday,  Apr. 4, 1795, Norfolk Chronicle

William DYBALL on the Game Duty List for the manor of Sir T. DURRANT of "Scottow Fenn Halls, Stubbs and Gurneys"
Saturday,  Jan. 1, 1803, Norfolk Chronicle

"To DEBTORS AND CREDITORS
All persons who stood indebted to Mr.
Thomas Dyball, of Scottow, at the time of his
decease, are required to pay the same to Mrs. Ann
Dyball, widow of the deceased. Persons having any
claims are requested to send statements of their ac-
counts."
   Saturday,  June 17, 1809, Norfolk Chronicle

"Died ...
Last week aged 44, Mr. Thomas Dyball of Scottow, Norfolk."
Saturday,  June 24, 1809, The Ipswich Journal

"Died ...
Sunday last, after a short illness, in the 18th year of her age, Sarah, the eldest daughter of Mrs. T. Dyball, of Scottow, in this county."
Saturday,  May 5, 1810, Norfolk Chronicle

"Died ...
Same day,["Saturday last", ie 14 Aug 1852] aged 79, Mrs. Ann Dyball, relict of the late Mr. Thomas Dyball, formerly of Scottow, in this county."
Saturday,  Aug. 21, 1852, Norfolk Chronicle

Various other advertisments and mentions during the early 1800s if you're interested.

Title: Re: Dyball family in Scotow Norfolk
Post by: amondg on Monday 30 August 21 08:57 BST (UK)
Where are you getting his death date from please?

I don't see a death 1856 on Freebmd for a William Scottow age 78

There is a William Dyball age 55 of Norwich buried in Scottow 16 October 1831
Title: Re: Dyball family in Scotow Norfolk
Post by: Southwinds on Monday 30 August 21 19:24 BST (UK)
If I have the correct one did he marry Elizabeth Cooke and then Sarah Cooper?

Born 20 April 1778 baptized 28th April.Scottow

Then he is the son of Thomas Dyball of Scottow who married Elizabeth Ayers by license 18 November 1764 at Barton Turf. Witness Thomas Dove and Joseph Ames (Joseph signs a lot so he is probably the parish clerk). All could write.

Yes thank you..that’s him
Title: Re: Dyball family in Scotow Norfolk
Post by: Southwinds on Monday 30 August 21 19:29 BST (UK)
Where are you getting his death date from please?

I don't see a death 1856 on Freebmd for a William Scottow age 78

There is a William Dyball age 55 of Norwich buried in Scottow 16 October 1831

I have 1856  or after date as he isn’t listed as deced on his sons wedding certificate in 1856.
But he could be …
Title: Re: Dyball family in Scotow Norfolk
Post by: Southwinds on Monday 30 August 21 19:30 BST (UK)
A few other items from newspapers that may be of interest:

Also Thomas (the younger)  DYBALL of Scottow mentioned in a couple of advertisments for viewing an estate in Horstead in 1795. eg
   Saturday,  Apr. 4, 1795, Norfolk Chronicle

William DYBALL on the Game Duty List for the manor of Sir T. DURRANT of "Scottow Fenn Halls, Stubbs and Gurneys"
Saturday,  Jan. 1, 1803, Norfolk Chronicle

"To DEBTORS AND CREDITORS
All persons who stood indebted to Mr.
Thomas Dyball, of Scottow, at the time of his
decease, are required to pay the same to Mrs. Ann
Dyball, widow of the deceased. Persons having any
claims are requested to send statements of their ac-
counts."
   Saturday,  June 17, 1809, Norfolk Chronicle

"Died ...
Last week aged 44, Mr. Thomas Dyball of Scottow, Norfolk."
Saturday,  June 24, 1809, The Ipswich Journal

"Died ...
Sunday last, after a short illness, in the 18th year of her age, Sarah, the eldest daughter of Mrs. T. Dyball, of Scottow, in this county."
Saturday,  May 5, 1810, Norfolk Chronicle

"Died ...
Same day,["Saturday last", ie 14 Aug 1852] aged 79, Mrs. Ann Dyball, relict of the late Mr. Thomas Dyball, formerly of Scottow, in this county."
Saturday,  Aug. 21, 1852, Norfolk Chronicle

Various other advertisments and mentions during the early 1800s if you're interested.

Thank you this is excellent..where do you access this ? How can  i
Title: Re: Dyball family in Scotow Norfolk
Post by: jonwarrn on Monday 30 August 21 21:14 BST (UK)
ANW Will of Thomas Dyball of Swanton Abbott, Gent, proved 1812
 Executors son William Dyball and John Durrant
Also names Ann, the widow of his late son Thomas
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSN6-C87H

And as Thomas jr has been mentioned, here is his administration from 1809
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSNX-VSZ6-5

Title: Re: Dyball family in Scotow Norfolk
Post by: amondg on Monday 30 August 21 21:47 BST (UK)
There are also admin bonds 1821 and 1822 for Elizabeth Dyball wife of William.

You might want to see if they give any other information, Dyball is a fairly common name, but it may be the William you are looking for .

Norfolk Chronicle 31 January 1818.
Notice to creditors of William Dyball late of Scottow farmer and maltster.
Ref: Find my past (It is pay to view)but has a very good newspaper collection

This could be your man as well.
Title: Re: Dyball family in Scotow Norfolk
Post by: maddys52 on Tuesday 31 August 21 02:09 BST (UK)

Thank you this is excellent..where do you access this ? How can  i

I access newspapers through my Australian National Library Card, using their eresources and Gale Primary Sources (British Library Newspapers). I'm sure many other libraries also provide free access.

And as amondg says, Findmypast also has a good newspaper collection. Subscription usually required, however during these Covid times some libraries also have an arrangement with Findmypast (and Ancestry too) to provide access free from home at the moment (my Local Library does). So worth contacting your local library.  ;)
Title: Re: Dyball family in Scotow Norfolk
Post by: Southwinds on Friday 03 September 21 18:12 BST (UK)
ANW Will of Thomas Dyball of Swanton Abbott, Gent, proved 1812
 Executors son William Dyball and John Durrant
Also names Ann, the widow of his late son Thomas
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSN6-C87H

And as Thomas jr has been mentioned, here is his administration from 1809
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSNX-VSZ6-5


Thank you
Title: Re: Dyball family in Scotow Norfolk
Post by: spendlove on Monday 06 September 21 15:26 BST (UK)
Hi Southwinds,

Wondered if you would share how you found these wills on family search.

I can obtain access by using the film number on the connection you gave,  but what terminology did you use in the Catalogue search?

Your help would be appreciated.

Spendlove
Title: Re: Dyball family in Scotow Norfolk
Post by: Southwinds on Monday 06 September 21 18:53 BST (UK)
Hi Southwinds,

Wondered if you would share how you found these wills on family search.

I can obtain access by using the film number on the connection you gave,  but what terminology did you use in the Catalogue search?

Your help would be appreciated.

Spendlove

I didn’t …my reply , thank you, was to Jonw65 who did find them
Title: Re: Dyball family in Scotow Norfolk
Post by: spendlove on Monday 06 September 21 19:50 BST (UK)
Oh sorry,

That was a Senior moment.

Same question to johnw65

Wondered if you would share how you found these wills on family search.

I can obtain access by using the film number on the connection you gave,  but what terminology did you use in the Catalogue search?

Your help would be appreciated.

Spendlove
Title: Re: Dyball family in Scotow Norfolk
Post by: jonwarrn on Monday 06 September 21 20:42 BST (UK)
Hi
Using the Norfolk Record Office catalogue, NROCAT, to see if there is a will, and for references
Dyball, Thomas, of Scottow
ANW, will register, 1812-1813, (1812) fo. 34, no. 25

On the FamilySearch catalogue
Place - England, Norfolk
That brings up a long list of categories. Select Probate records (21 of them)

From the probate records, click on
Wills and administrations, 1469-1857
Author: Church of England. Archdeaconry of Norwich

There are two pages of films, we need the second page
And on that, the film we want is
Regd. copy wills, v. 129 1812-1813

Click on camera icon, and start browsing!
We need folio 34 and as it the will is proved in 1812, it's going to be early on in the film.
Image 39 has folio 34, but T Dyball isn't on that page, and we find him on the next page, as you have seen.
Helpfully the wills are numbered, and his is no. 25, as per the NROCAT result.

You can also see wills for the Norwich Consistory Court at home, but not the Archdeaconry of Norfolk (barring a few films)
I should also say that Norfolk wills, 1800-1857, are on Norfolk Sources
http://www.norfolksources.norfolk.gov.uk/DserveNS/

Though Thomas Dyball isn't showing! He ought to be there somewhere? A bonus is that you can see Archdeaconry of Norfolk wills proved from 1800-57 on there.
John
Title: Re: Dyball family in Scotow Norfolk
Post by: spendlove on Monday 06 September 21 22:58 BST (UK)
Hi John.

Thanks so much, not personally looking for Dyball wills, but needed to know to enable me to find
people in my research in Norfolk.

Many thanks
Spendlove

Title: Re: Dyball family in Scotow Norfolk
Post by: Southwinds on Tuesday 07 September 21 07:26 BST (UK)
Hi
Using the Norfolk Record Office catalogue, NROCAT, to see if there is a will, and for references
Dyball, Thomas, of Scottow
ANW, will register, 1812-1813, (1812) fo. 34, no. 25

On the FamilySearch catalogue
Place - England, Norfolk
That brings up a long list of categories. Select Probate records (21 of them)

From the probate records, click on
Wills and administrations, 1469-1857
Author: Church of England. Archdeaconry of Norwich

There are two pages of films, we need the second page
And on that, the film we want is
Regd. copy wills, v. 129 1812-1813

Click on camera icon, and start browsing!
We need folio 34 and as it the will is proved in 1812, it's going to be early on in the film.
Image 39 has folio 34, but T Dyball isn't on that page, and we find him on the next page, as you have seen.
Helpfully the wills are numbered, and his is no. 25, as per the NROCAT result.

You can also see wills for the Norwich Consistory Court at home, but not the Archdeaconry of Norfolk (barring a few films)
I should also say that Norfolk wills, 1800-1857, are on Norfolk Sources
http://www.norfolksources.norfolk.gov.uk/DserveNS/

Though Thomas Dyball isn't showing! He ought to be there somewhere? A bonus is that you can see Archdeaconry of Norfolk wills proved from 1800-57 on there.
John


John..
Thank you …I didn’t know about this …
Thank you 🙏