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Title: Richar Poller or Pollard marries Emma Winters 1871
Post by: squawki11 on Friday 27 August 21 15:12 BST (UK)
The above couple marry Wednesbury 1871 and there are 7 GRO birth index entries possibly attributable to their children but as yet I can find no trace of Richard or Emma in any subsequent census. None of their children appear in any census before 1901 as far as I can discover. The "GRO" children are:
Emily Mary Ann Poller q2 1872 Birmingham
Charles Poller q1 1875 Aston
Henry Pollard q3 1876 Birmingham
Cliff Pollard q4 1878 Birmingham
William Pollard q1 1881 Birmingham
Florence Pollard q4 1882 Birmingham
Beatrice Pollard q1 1886 Birmingham

Charles Birmingham marriage record suggests his father died before 28 Nov 1896.

Any pointers towards the 1881 & 1891 census records, please? Richard Poller/Pollard's occupation appears variable (from marriage certs.) and it's possible I might have 2 (or more) families mixed up...
TIA





Title: Re: Richar Poller or Pollard marries Emma Winters 1871
Post by: Milliepede on Friday 27 August 21 15:53 BST (UK)
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None of their children appear in any census before 1901 as far as I can discover.

Who are the children with?
Title: Re: Richar Poller or Pollard marries Emma Winters 1871
Post by: PaulineJ on Friday 27 August 21 16:09 BST (UK)
Marriage https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QLQH-NS2D 7 days after census

Title: Re: Richar Poller or Pollard marries Emma Winters 1871
Post by: rosie17 on Friday 27 August 21 16:14 BST (UK)
There is this family on the 1891 census at Summer Row Birmingham
John Edkins 28 ( engine driver ) b Birmingham
Emily Edkins 38 b Birmingham wife
Florence Edkins 8 Birmingham daughter
Beatrice Edkins 5 Birmingham daughter
Thomas Edkins 3 Birmingham  son
Sidney Edkins 1 Birmingham son
Emily Parlard 18 Birmingham daughter in law
Charles Palard 16 Birmingham son in law
Hendry Palard 14 Birmingham son in law
Clifton Palard 13 Birmingham son in law
William Palard 10 Birmingham son in law

Rosie
Title: Re: Richar Poller or Pollard marries Emma Winters 1871
Post by: rosie17 on Friday 27 August 21 16:22 BST (UK)
Gro.Gov records for Sydney Edkins
1890 Birmingham
Mothers maiden name down as Pollard

Rosie
Title: Re: Richar Poller or Pollard marries Emma Winters 1871
Post by: rosie17 on Friday 27 August 21 16:29 BST (UK)
Gro.gov records
Rose Edkins 1893
Birmingham
Mothers maiden name Winters

Rosie
Title: Re: Richar Poller or Pollard marries Emma Winters 1871
Post by: squawki11 on Friday 27 August 21 20:19 BST (UK)
Thank you all for your suggestions and assistance. It's looking very likely that Emma/Emily Edkins is Emma Winters and I'll tease it apart over the weekend. I'd thought remarriage might have occurred but missed the Edkins/Pallard/Pollard union. Very well done Rosie17!
Title: Re: Richar Poller or Pollard marries Emma Winters 1871
Post by: rosie17 on Saturday 28 August 21 11:14 BST (UK)
The 1901 census  Birmingham she is down as Emma Edkins age 42 widow
Florence Edkins daughter 19
Thomas Edkins son 13
Sidney Edkins son 11
Rose Edkins daughter 8
Thomas Redding ( transcribed Edwin) 34 boarder

She says she is a widow which could be possible as there is a death for a
John Edkins 1895 Warwickshire age 34 ?  And there is also a possible sighting of John on The 1901 Census with a different partner

Rose Edkins can be found with her sister Florence Hazeledine in 1911 who is now married to  John Frederick Hazeledine..

Still not been able to find them in 1881  ???

Rosie

Title: Re: Richar Poller or Pollard marries Emma Winters 1871
Post by: rosie17 on Saturday 28 August 21 11:27 BST (UK)
There is also a possible death
Emma Pollard
Birth year 1854
Died 1910
Warwickshire

You might have this

Rosie
Title: Re: Richar Poller or Pollard marries Emma Winters 1871
Post by: squawki11 on Sunday 29 August 21 05:59 BST (UK)
It's proving an interesting insight into the various records with Florence marrying as an Edkins yet her daughter Beatrice has mmn "Pollard" whereas son William has mmn "Edkins". The assistance you've given has enabled me to fill in a few more gaps and I'm looking forward to discovering more about Emma Winter's other children. Cliff appears as Clifton & Arthur Clifford...William marries and migrates to US. I've still to find a death record for Richard Pollard and there is Thomas Edkins in that 1891 census who may have been born to a previous partner of John Edkins; I've yet to find any marriage record for him & Emma/Emily. I'm pretty sure Emma was born q3 1852 Aston to Thomas Winters & Emma Carter, however, if she didn't marry Edkins then that 1910 death record may well hers.