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I would like to expand my family search of my G-grandparents families, all from Craanford (Monbay) Gorey Wexford.
Michael Finn b ~1800 married to Bridget Doyle (who I believe was from Camolin) 1804-1884
Jeremiah (Darby) Doran 1813-1882 m Susanna (Susan) Ennis, b? d 1891
They all lived in Mombay. The Doran farm remains, the Finn family home is no longer there.
Their headstones are not at ST Patrick's church, I know there are many smaller cemetaries in the area.
Thank You
Shelly
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There are some DORAN graves in Monaseed graveyard.
edit: sorry, I forgot that Monaseed was St Patrick's!
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Welcome to RootsChat :)
.........all from Craanford (Monbay) Gorey Wexford.
Here's the townland of Monbay Upper (with Monbay Lower just east), both west of the village of Craanford.
https://www.townlands.ie/wexford/gorey/rossminoge/rossminoge/monbay-upper/
The link (https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1882/06386/4833418.pdf) to the death record of Jeremiah Doran in 1882.
KG
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Here is Jeremiah’s death record (KG, the link is not there) . The informant is Edward Doran.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1882/06386/4833418.pdf
I can’t see Susanna’s death.
Edward in 1901?
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Wexford/Rossminoge/Monbay_Upper/1792963/
I have posted these as a starting point. When you say you ‘want to expand your search’, what are you looking for? Do you have the children of Jeremiah, for example?
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It's working for me, heywood ;D
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Thanks so much!
When I try to get records at that site, I just get a loading circle..... But can see Jeremiah Dorans death record- thanks!!!
For the Dorans, a family member did give me genealogy down from Jeremiah- so I would like records earlier- and info on Susanna Ennis- have no info on her at all.
For The Finn family, I would love to go further back, I have the kids names, but have no info until the present generation. The kids that did NOT immigrate to the US are Kate, Michael and Mary. I am specifically interested in Michael's line.
Thanks so much-and sorry I was not specific in the first place! I would also love to know where they are buried.
Yes- have been to Monseed/St Patricks : ) They are not buried there. The church burned down and was rebuilt later in the 1800's I believe, so local records were destroyed.
Shelly
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I think it is going to be difficult. The parish registers online are too late for your dates
https://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0590
The Tithe Applotments records show Arthur Doran, Edward Doran and Finn in Monbay
http://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie/search/tab/home.jsp
As does Griffiths Valuation http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/
You might find the odd reference in newspapers :-\
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Hi. I have a copy of a book containing details of the inscriptions on the headstones in each of the cemeteries in the Craanford parish (which includes the Monaseed area). Wont be able to access it until midweek but will check then. My great great grandfather was a Denis Finn born in Monbay c1800. Culbaire
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That sounds hopeful :)
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LInk to marriage of a Michael Finn, Monbay aged 50 son of Michael Finn in 1883.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1883/10925/5991942.pdf
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Michael in 1901
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Wexford/Rossminoge/Monbay_Lower/1792962/
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Johanna Finn, a widow in 1911
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Wexford/Rossminoge/Monbay__Upper/683589/
Death of Michael Finn in 1902.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1902/05696/4605928.pdf
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Death record for Johanna Finn in 1921 at Monbay. The informant was her son Michael Finn.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1921/05085/4395680.pdf
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Death of Michael & Johanna's son Michael in 1955 (a bachelor and farmer) at Monbay.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1956/04406/4147759.pdf
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A book on’ Inscriptions on Memorials of the Dead ‘ published by an Explore Group in Craanford in 2001, details a number headstone inscriptions relating to various families of Finns. In Craanford there are 5 Finn graves in the older section beside the church and 10 Finn graves in the newer section. There are another 7 in Rossminogue cemetery with dates ranging from the late 1700s up to 1885.
The one of possibly most interest is one for above mentioned Michael Finn died 1902 aged 66 and wife Johanna died 1921 aged 71 erected by their son Michael Finn, Monbay.
This Michae Finn died Dec 1955 aged 71, a sister Mary Finn died 1962 aged 71 and a brother died young.
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My G Grandmother was Winafred Finn Monbay b.@1838 died 1924.Records for Craanford for 1830-1844 are missing so i dont know who her father and mother were.Winafred married Michael Doyle Rossminogue [parish of Craanford] they had 9 children.Going on childrens names i think i should be looking for Winafred and Michael Finn ? have info on Finns but cant put tog.I think someone has been looking in wrong graveyard Monaseed is half parish of craanford and both graveyards are st patricks. Ihave a graveyard book for both. In Craanford old graveyard there are two graves side by side one Doran one Finn headstones are flat on ground badly cracked and word.
Doran This tomb was erected by Anne Doran in memory of her husband Andrew Doran late of Boley who died aug 26 1831 age 53 above Anne Doran late of Boley who dept.this life aug 28 1863 age 74 [Anne was a Finn]
Finn
Erected by Moses Finn in memory of his wife Winafred Finn who dept. this life feb 2 1831 age ?
above Moses Finn late of Monbay depd.this life aug 11 1836 age 84 also Bridget Finn who dept.this life Dec 1835 age 59 also ? Finn who dept this life june 1838 age 67 also Darby Finn who dept this life mar 9 1873 age 75.
There is also a headstone in graveyard that could be one you are looking for.
Doran
Erected by Susan Doran Monbay in memory of her beloved husband Jeremiah Doran who died dec 3 1882 age 69 also the above Susan Doran died dec 27 1891 age 60.
Darby was another name for Jeremiah.
I have been told Finns came from Sligo[west Ireland]to monbay in 1685.
Hope this is of some help to you.
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I would like to expand my family search of my G-grandparents families, all from Craanford (Monbay) Gorey Wexford.
Michael Finn b ~1800 married to Bridget Doyle (who I believe was from Camolin) 1804-1884
Jeremiah (Darby) Doran 1813-1882 m Susanna (Susan) Ennis, b? d 1891
They all lived in Mombay. The Doran farm remains, the Finn family home is no longer there.
Their headstones are not at ST Patrick's church, I know there are many smaller cemetaries in the area.
Thank You
Shelly
Hello Shelly,
This is your (distant) cousin Wexflyer again. We corresponded on Ancestry and via email back in May this year. As you may recall, we have a DNA match, through your great-grandmother Bridget Doyle.
After the progress we made in May on figuring out how we are related, it is somewhat disheartening to see you repeat several earlier pieces of information that we now know to be incorrect.
Bridget Doyle was from Clonee, in the parish of Ferns, not Camolin. Her marriage to Michael Finn on 4th July 1822 is recorded in the Ferns parish register, where her address is clearly given as Clonee.
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000634064#page/6/mode/1up (https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000634064#page/6/mode/1up)
Clonee is also where my Doyle ancestors hail from.
Bridget died in 1874, not 1884, when her age was given as 79. Her death registration can be seen at
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1875/020636/7239986.pdf (https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1875/020636/7239986.pdf)
I also previously provided this death registration to you. Her death was registered by Michael Finn, presumably the son whose marriage was mentioned earlier in this thread.
As for parish registers being too late, as asserted by Heywood, that is not quite so. Craanford was previously part of a larger original parish, and earlier records exist for that parish - in this case Ballyoughter.
The Ballyoughter parish registers contain a baptism record for a daughter of Michael Finn and Bridget Doyle, namely Anne Finn on 28/1/1828, in Munbay.
The Ballyoughter registers contain 7 Finn and Doran baptisms in Munbay (with that spelling) between 1816 and 1828, and a further 4 Doran baptisms in 1817 and 1818, in Monbay (with that spelling).
Finally, with regard to memorial inscriptions, these are freely available online, provided by the North Wexford Historical Society, covering all periods down to the present day
https://northwexfordhistoricalsociety.com/headstone-recordings/ (https://northwexfordhistoricalsociety.com/headstone-recordings/)
Using this resource, you can indeed see that many Finns and Dorans of Monbay are buried in Craanford. e.g. there is a Finn of Monbay burial as recently as 1987. Of most interest, though, is the fact that before Craanford, the Finns of Monbay appear to have been buried in Rossminogue, with interments back to the 1750s. A very strange feature of this site is that only the first deceased family member mentioned on a gravestone seems to be indexed. If you "click" on the indexed names you will get the full inscription and a photograph. Many/most of the inscriptions have additional names that do not appear in the index.
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Hi Shelly,
I have a Jeremiah Doran (1813-1882 Monbay) married to Susan Brennan 1831-1891. Susan is a daughter of Myles Brennan & Catherine Ennis of Brideswell.
Cheers John G.