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Wales (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Wales => Denbighshire => Topic started by: -Glen- on Friday 20 August 21 20:47 BST (UK)
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Good evening,
Does anyone know which newspapers existed in 1975 and which ones would've covered the story of a car accident and of the subsequent inquest into the death?
Thanks for your help,
Glen
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You have posted on the Wales board. In which county did the accident occur as it would be newspaper's for that area that are relevant.
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The Natioanal Library Online Newspapers don't include papers that recent. They only cover 1804-1919
https://newspapers.library.wales/
You'd need to check the British Newspaper Archive or individual local ones.
https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/
As Carole has said, we'd need to know whereabouts the accident occurred to help.
Gadget
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Thanks for your replies.
I'm not sure where the accident was. They had arrived on a ferry from Ireland.
They were taken to Wrexham Memorial Hospital, which was Denbighshire I believe until 1974 and then became Clwyd.
So I imagine the north of Wales would be the best place for me to start.
Thanks for your help,
Glen
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You might try the Wrexham Leader.
https://www.leaderlive.co.uk/
I'm not sure how far back their archives go but I know that it was definitely there in 1975 :)
Gadget
Add - The Memorial Hospital closed at some stage and the main hospital became the Maelor General. My parents, sister and I were patients of both at various times from 1950s to 1980s.
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You could also contact:
http://old.wrexham.gov.uk/english/heritage/archives/index.htm
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Nowadays (I think) it would be Western Mail - mainly read by people in South Wales, and the Daily Post for North Wales.
Here is a list on Wikipedia - but presumably these don't list newspapers that have since ceased printing: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_newspapers_in_Wales
There would have been very small runs of newsletters and the like in small villages and towns too, often produced by chapels, in Welsh. Strangely enough, when we visited the library of FamilySearch in Salt Lake City years ago, I had a flick through a few - it was very odd seeing and reading Welsh in such an unlikely place.
Trystan
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The 'North Wales Chronicle' is another possibility.
Drosybont
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Thank you everyone :)
I'm going to contact the various archives and track down where the old newspapers are kept.
Thanks for your help,
Glen
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Try Wrexham Library as some held newspapers, but from that date it may not even be digital. I am in Carmarthenshire with the library holding local newspapers, but not all libraries held them.
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I've been told that the accident was probably reported by the local paper of where the accident took place and not by the Wrexham local paper (where they were taken to).
So, this would've been somewhere along the A5 probably, when they came off the ferry at Holyhead and started driving.
The car went off an edge and 12' down into a stream. Any idea which section of the road this might've been?! ???
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If death occurred at the scene of the accident, would it not state where it happened on the death certificate?
Just a thought.
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What were their names - if they are not alive now
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Died a couple of days later in Wrexham Memorial Hospital.
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I've been doing some detailed searches but have not found anything on the inquest or the accident so far . I'll keep looking.
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They would be on Freebmd registered Wrexham but without a name even a search in the papers would be difficult.
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I have a name but nothing showing.
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I have a name but nothing showing.
Dec qtr 1975 Wrexham, but only one name showing.
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The OP has the death info. It's inquest info and place of accident that he is interested in.
If the accident occurred on A5, there would probably be only 3 hospitals in the area that would have facilities to deal with major trauma - Bangor, Wrexham and (possibly) Llandudno. As it was Wrexham, it would most likely be on the the road east of Snowdonia. My recall is that there are quite a few steep banks on that stretch.
Nothing in online newspapers so far.
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Thank you so much.
Really appreciate your help with the newspaper searches and your local knowledge of the roads.
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The North Wales Daily Post covered the area back then.
Their page says contact archives. Bottom of page.
https://www.dailypost.co.uk/contact-us/
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Thank you. I've heard back from them. They have re-directed me to the Hawarden Library so I'll try them.
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The OP has the death info. It's inquest info and place of accident that he is interested in.
If the accident occurred on A5, there would probably be only 3 hospitals in the area that would have facilities to deal with major trauma - Bangor, Wrexham and (possibly) Llandudno. As it was Wrexham, it would most likely be on the the road east of Snowdonia. My recall is that there are quite a few steep banks on that stretch.
Nothing in online newspapers so far.
I would suggest that if it was on the A5 depending upon where it was the hospitals would be either Wrexham or Bangor (in those days the Caernarvonshire and Anglesey (C & A ) Hospital I do not believe Llandudno had trauma facilities.
Sorry if I missed it but does it not say on the place of death certificate ? If the death is registered in Wrexham you're looking at Wrexham / Denbighshire rather than what was Caernarfonshire or Meirionethshire (now Gwynedd)
Nesta
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Hi Nesta
Maybe you've not read the full thread. The death was registered in Wrexham. The person was admitted to the War Memorial Hospital in Wrexham and died there 2-3 days later. The inquest was held in November but it's not been archived so very difficult.
Glen has contacted most of the Archives/newspapers in the area. He does have the death cert.
I am surprised that admission was to the War Memorial Hospital. I would have guessed it would have been the Maelor. The Memorial Hospital* became a boys school soon after, if my memory is correct.
Gadget
*finally closed in 1986
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Thanks Gadget - was trying to read on my phone and so must have missed a bit.
Nesta
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I had a car accident in Rossett in 1984, we were all taken by ambulance to Wrexham War Memorial hospital where we were treated and sent home. 🚑
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Hi All,
Thanks so much for your help and the local knowledge. Really appreciate it.
The Northeast Wales Archives have found mention of the accident and sent me the clipping.
Thanks again,
Glen :)
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Just for interest, Glen, which newspaper was it in? I had absolutely no luck finding anything.
Drosybont
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Hi All,
Thanks so much for your help and the local knowledge. Really appreciate it.
The Northeast Wales Archives have found mention of the accident and sent me the clipping.
Thanks again,
Glen :)
Where did it take place if you don't mind telling.
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The Archives searched the Denbighshire Free Press and found nothing. The Corwen Times and found nothing. They then searched the Wrexham Leader and found details of the accident in an August edition.
Until now, we've never known exactly where it happened. The clipping says "....when the car dropped 15 feet off the A5 near Pentrefoelas" :(
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I've just had flash backs to the late 1950s of been taking to the War Memorial twice from school in Llangollen after sports injuries.
I traveled via Google street view on the A5 around the Pentrefoelas area yesterday.
Gadget
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I used to travel that road quite often in the 1960s, not much since then. Have a memory of some bad bends west of Pentrevoelas, where the River Conwy is in a gorge below.
Drosybont
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The daily post has different editions East and West Wales etc North Wales chronicle and Holyhead and Anglesey mail. Llangefni Archives have lots of infirmation
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Oops, spelling should be Pentrefoelas. Been working with too many anglicised texts recently.
Drosybont