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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Renfrewshire => Topic started by: mosstrooper on Tuesday 17 August 21 15:31 BST (UK)
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Attached is an image of my Grandmothers Birth Certificate in 1874. Finding one word difficult
I think I can make out Cottage at Carlile Quay, then the word I can't make out then Paisly.
I looked up old maps and found Carlile Quay on the River Cart but not much else.
Hope someone can help.
James Kerr.
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Looks like "Mid" something
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Could it be an abbreviation for Middle Parish?
Mid par ?
Looby :)
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Could it be an abbreviation for Middle Parish?
Mid par ?
Looby :)
That sounds like a good answer, thank you very much.
James.
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https://canmore.org.uk/site/174065/paisley-new-sneddon-street-carlile-quay
This might help
Don
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https://canmore.org.uk/site/174065/paisley-new-sneddon-street-carlile-quay
This might help
Don
Thank you Don, I'm having to go to the other side of the country to find out about this, my Grandmother was born in the place mentioned, all her sisters and brothers above and below her were born in Uphall West Lothian, her father worked in the Oil Works there, the first Oil Works in the world set up by "Paraffin Young". I have no idea who they were visiting at the time of her birth, a task for later I think, but "Cottage at Carlile Quay" is no help at all and no McCrystal's are listed in ScotlandsPeople in that area.
James Kerr.
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Looks like...
Cottage, Carlisle Quay, Midfear, Paisley
https://canmore.org.uk/site/174065/paisley-new-sneddon-street-carlile-quay
or
https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=carlisle+quay%2c+midfear%2c+paisley%2c+scotland&qpvt=carlisle+quay%2c+midfear%2c+paisley%2c+scotland&FORM=IGRE
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Looks like...
Cottage, Carlisle Quay, Midfear, Paisley
https://canmore.org.uk/site/174065/paisley-new-sneddon-street-carlile-quay
or
https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=carlisle+quay%2c+midfear%2c+paisley%2c+scotland&qpvt=carlisle+quay%2c+midfear%2c+paisley%2c+scotland&FORM=IGRE
Looks like the Wine has started early Elmer.
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Hi Mosstrooper.
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The wine was excellent, and copious, thank you. :)
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Hi Mosstrooper.
As a RootsChat veteran, you will of course know that 'newbies' responses do not show until AFTER they have had two posts submitted AND approved by a moderator.
Moderators have quite a workload.
Sometimes, a 'newbie' response takes a couple of days to appear, and other more experienced members may have given the same response in the interim.
The wine was excellent, and copious, thank you. :)
I learn something new every day. JK
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Hi Mosstrooper.
As a RootsChat veteran, you will of course know that 'newbies' responses do not show until AFTER they have had two posts submitted AND approved by a moderator.
Moderators have quite a workload.
Sometimes, a 'newbie' response takes a couple of days to appear, and other more experienced members may have given the same response in the interim.
The wine was excellent, and copious, thank you. :)
New members of Rootschat need at least two replies before using some features such as Personal Messages and Chatroom but their normal posts usually appear just after they click on the 'post' button.
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Just a wee note, that address is definitely Middle Parish as my Great Grandfather was born just along the road in Glen Street in 1868 (Alexander Horne Canning) and the family continued to live in the same area for years.
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Hello
There were also a few oil works around Paisley and Linwood in the 1870s and 1880s. It's possible that your family relocated for a short time between the 1871 and 1881 census if you have them in both years in Uphall. The closest to Carlile Quay is the Abercorn/Inkerman Works and you can see some information about it here: https://www.scottishshale.co.uk/places/oil-works/oil-works-renfrewshire/
I have a family of miners where all of the children were born in Airdrie, except for one 'random' birth in Ayrshire in 1858. The family had moved for a short time and I would never have known if the child hadn't been born, as they were back in Airdrie by 1861.
Who registered the birth? I've seen several births for people 'visiting' when the birth took place, and if it is a parent who registers, the 'usual address' or 'domicile' is sometimes recorded if different from where the child was born. If there isn't an indication of the parents living somewhere else, it might be more likely to mean that the family were themselves resident at the address the birth took place.
You can also search the 1875 valuation rolls for Paisley via ScotlandsPeople. If you limit your search to 'Burgh of Paisley', choose 'Tenants and Occupiers' for Status and add 'Carlile' in the last box titled 'place', it brings up all the records of people living at Carlile Place (there are no records for Carlile Quay). There are 22 names, none are McChrystals, but you might recognise an in-law or other family name.
If you replace 'Carlile' with 'New Sneddon', there are 200+ results, again no McChrystals :(
There are some McChrystals named in the Paisley Poor Relief Records, and Renfrewshire Libraries have created an index here, which you can follow up with them if any of the information matches your relations:
The Paisley Poor Records Index is here: https://libcat.renfrewshire.gov.uk/iguana/www.main.cls?surl=PoorLaw#:~:text=What%20are%20the%20Paisley%20Poor,due%20to%20age%20or%20incapacity.
Best wishes
Rockford