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Title: Got to be a mistake or what does it mean?
Post by: cjc1867 on Wednesday 11 August 21 19:23 BST (UK)
Hi
I got a photo of a grave for Charles Brookshaw who was born in 1840 and died in 1906 aged 66.

That is mentioned on the headstone but just under his name it says 'Late RN Crimea 1835' and I am stumped to what that could mean...

Any ideas please?

Thanks

Colin
Title: Re: Got to be a mistake or what does it mean?
Post by: Llwyd on Wednesday 11 August 21 19:45 BST (UK)
Error - on behalf of the stone mason?. Should it be 1853, which if it was, then I would say he was in the Royal Navy at 13 years old and was at the Crimea when the war started?.
 :)
Title: Re: Got to be a mistake or what does it mean?
Post by: Gadget on Wednesday 11 August 21 20:15 BST (UK)
I had a similar stone mason error on one of my rare ancestral MIs .She is down as dying at 86 when she was really 68. It would have meant that she would have been in her mid 60s when her last two children were born!

Title: Re: Got to be a mistake or what does it mean?
Post by: heywood on Wednesday 11 August 21 20:37 BST (UK)
Quote from: Llwyd on Wednesday 11 August 21 19:45 BST (UK)
Error - on behalf of the stone mason?. Should it be 1853, which if it was, then I would say he was in the Royal Navy at 13 years old and was at the Crimea when the war started?.
 :)

I thought that but decided he would be too young and he is at home in 1861.
However, after reading your thoughts, Llwyd, I looked him up.
This one, although there is only one in Cuckfield, has an earlier birthdate
https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D7541590

The record can be viewed.
Title: Re: Got to be a mistake or what does it mean?
Post by: cjc1867 on Wednesday 11 August 21 22:17 BST (UK)
Hi
Thank you for replying.

So it looks like he lied about his age, that would make sense as it happened in other wars as well.

Yes the stone mason has got the actual year wrong.

Just downloaded the record on National Archives as it is free at the moment.

Thanks for your help.

Colin
Title: Re: Got to be a mistake or what does it mean?
Post by: Lily M on Thursday 12 August 21 05:35 BST (UK)
The 3 from the 1835 looks as though it could have worn away, and was originally a 5.
Title: Re: Got to be a mistake or what does it mean?
Post by: cjc1867 on Thursday 12 August 21 05:52 BST (UK)
Thanks Lily
Yes it does look like a 5 now closer up. Well spotted.

Cheers

Colin
Title: Re: Got to be a mistake or what does it mean?
Post by: Guy Etchells on Thursday 12 August 21 06:57 BST (UK)
What was Charles Brookshaw's father's name was that also Charles?
The photo shows part of the inscription could the part referring to Late Crimea be referring to his father?
Cheers
Guy
Title: Re: Got to be a mistake or what does it mean?
Post by: LizzieL on Thursday 12 August 21 07:41 BST (UK)
Quote from: Guy Etchells on Thursday 12 August 21 06:57 BST (UK)
What was Charles Brookshaw's father's name was that also Charles?
The photo shows part of the inscription could the part referring to Late Crimea be referring to his father?
Cheers
Guy

He was baptised in Cuckfield on 01 Sep 1839 s/o Henry and Martha
Title: Re: Got to be a mistake or what does it mean?
Post by: LizzieL on Thursday 12 August 21 07:46 BST (UK)
possible birth reg as Male Brookshaw Q3 Cuckfield 7 278

added

mmn Arnold
Title: Re: Got to be a mistake or what does it mean?
Post by: Andrew Tarr on Thursday 12 August 21 09:27 BST (UK)
Quote from: Guy Etchells on Thursday 12 August 21 06:57 BST (UK)
What was Charles Brookshaw's father's name was that also Charles?
The photo shows part of the inscription could the part referring to Late Crimea be referring to his father?
I didn't think the R-N was doing anything in the Crimea in the 1830s ? I doubt it would be the name of a ship either ?
Title: Re: Got to be a mistake or what does it mean?
Post by: LizzieL on Thursday 12 August 21 09:35 BST (UK)
From Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baltic_Fleet_(United_Kingdom)


Hadn't we established the date was wrong? Likely to be 1853 or 1855