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Kiaora Sleuths.
BRICK WALL
(can't seem to find this fella, did he change his name? Illegitimate? When did he come to NZ and who are his parents?)
Charles Russell Alexander Churchill ELLICE
born c. 1842
m. Sarah Ann PEARCE - 2 Oct 1878 - New Zealand
7 children born in NZ (I have all the dates/ certs) Charles' birthplaces are stated as London in some and Hampshire in others.
Charles Russell ELLICE(1878–1954), Blanche Esther ELLICE(1880–), James Alexander Churchill ELLICE(1882–1937), George Churchill ELLICE(1885–1942), Susannah Elizabeth Faith ELLICE(1887–1956), Ruby Sarah ELLICE(1891–1978), Francis Pearce ELLICE(1895–1958)
He lived in Hobsonville, Auckland, and was on the School Board there.
d. 24 Mar 1904
Buried: Hamilton East Cemetery with wife and daughter Ruby.
I have found a family in England with an Alexander ELLICE marrying an Ann RUSSELL which caught my eye but doesn't seem to lead me anywhere helpful.. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Ellice
Have fun! Lots of love
Echo
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What does his death certificate say?
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It does look as though the family of Alexander Ellice and Ann née Russell is connected in some way - but none of the trees on Ancestry seem to include your Charles.
The name Churchill is the only one which doesn't appear in the Ellice famiy.
I understand that a NZ marriage certificate from 1878 won't include any parents' details, but does Charles' death cert provide any clues?
What was his occupation?
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In 1851, there is a Charles W Ellice born about 1842 London a boarder in Huddersfield.
A couple of doors away is an Elizabeth Ellice born about 1821 Huddersfield, Servant
HO 107 Piece 2295 Folio 614 Page 1515
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This appear to be that Charles in Huddersfield 1851;
ELLIS, CHARLES WALTON mmn WALTHAM
GRO Reference: 1842 M Quarter in LAMBETH Volume 04 Page 215
Bapt has his parents as Edwin/Emma Ellis
So likely not the one wanted.
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Charles Russell Alexander Churchill ELLICE
born c. 1842
m. Sarah Ann PEARCE - 2 Oct 1878 - New Zealand
Do you have his marriage certificate?
If so, is there a father named for Charles?
This tree is on FS https://www.familysearch.org/tree/pedigree/landscape/K16V-HPD
Charles 1843-1904 & Sarah 1863-1941
married 2 October 1878 Waitakere Auckland
Ellice children born to Charles & Sarah
Charles Russell 1878, Blanche Esther 1880, James Alexander Churchill 1882, George Churchill 1885,
Susannah Elizabeth Faith 1887, Ruby Sarah 1891, Francis Pearce & Harris John b1898 d1899
Charles parents named as
Charles Richard Ellice b1812 & Elizabeth Elless b1815 ( no marriage details)
Charles Siblings
Ellen 1846 & Edith 1859
Attached is a record for Ellen Ellis marrying in Canada in 1878,
parents Chas Richard & Elizabeth one witness Edith Elli(o) of St Catherine
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9Q97-Y39R-2NX?i=891&cc=1784216
and 1881 census in Canada Ontario St Catherines
https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/sources/GMB2-BQ7
Charles R 70 & Elizabeth 66, both born England dau Edith ELLESS born Ontario
Sarah's parents named as
James Pearce b1826 married 29 Nov 1856 Susanna Files b1833
Sibling
James Pearce 1857
1871 census Canada surname ELLIS
Chas R 60 England, Elizabeth 56 England & Edith 15
https://www.familysearch.org/search/ark:/61903/1:1:M4QW-49J
Snippets collected on Charles (added by Gt Gd/dau)
https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/memories/K16W-6QN
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Charles Russell Alexander Churchill ELLICE
born c. 1842
m. Sarah Ann PEARCE - 2 Oct 1878 - New Zealand
Do you have his marriage certificate?
If so, is there a father named for Charles?
No parents on NZ marriages before 1880 . But Death cert should have what ever the informant knew about that, hence request to know if OP has that.
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Charles Richard Ellis;
Daug ELIZABETH married Canada 07 May 1862 age 24 (1838)
Mother Elizabeth Jollitt (looks like Sollitt to me)
Elizabeth Berrys death record has her born 11 Mar 1835 England
(bapt is on Anc)
(on F/S.Org)
His headstone 1886 has his birth as 19 Dec 1810, image has Norton, Yorkshire
(on F/S.Org)
Marriage to Elizabeth SOLLITT 20 Apr 1834 Saint Leonard, New Malton, Yorkshire
(Anc)
1871 in Canada we have;
Alfred C Ellis Male 27 Birthplace O, Narionality England
Ellen Ellis Female 22 O
Thomas Pace Male 12 O
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1871 in Canada we have;
Alfred C Ellis Male 27 Birthplace O, Narionality England
Ellen Ellis Female 22 O
Thomas Pace Male 12 O
Is this the same Alfred?
Marriage 12 Jun 1875 Lincoln, Ontario, Canada
Alfred Cornelius Ellis age 30, B, Toronto, Ontario, Clerk, Protestant
parents Chas R Ellis Mother: Elizabeth
Spouse: Philoma Gordon age 21, S, Catholic, parents Peter & Angelino
Witnesses Domonick? Gordon & Ellen Murphy
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FMND-WB6
1881 Canada
Alfred Ellis 36 Ontario, Ch of England, English, Clerk
Felemine Ellis 33 USA, Catholic, French
Maudie Ellis 2
Norman Ellis 1
Angeline Gordon 21
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MVFX-818
1901 census Canada
Alfred, Philomena & Maud ELLISS
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KHLX-LHV
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A few more snippets if Alfred C Ellis is connected. :-\
Norman Ellis - 1880 St Catherines Ontario died 17 July 1885 Lincoln Ontario - aged 5 years 7 months.
Roman Catholic. Cause of death Tetanus.
Sandra
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1911 census St Catherines Lincoln Ontario
Alfred Ellis 71 Watchman
Philomene Ellis 55
Julia Fitzgerald 50 Lodger.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QV9T-5G3X
Sandra
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Tennessee, U.S., Death Records - Maude Ellis Newton - 28 July 1878 Ontario - died 24 th February 1961 Erlanger Hospital - aged 82 years - Divorced - Cerebral Haemorrhage.
Father Arthur Ellis - Mother Philomena Des Jardin. Informant M F Newton. Chattanooga. Tennessee.
Burial Mount Olivet Cemetery. Chattanooga. Tenn. 27 Feb 1961.
Sandra
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1921 census 50 George Street St Catherines Lincoln Ontario.
Matilda Badgley 54 Head
Harry F Badgley 18 Son
Roy L Badgley 16 Son
Hazel R Badgley 21 Daughter
Helen B Badgley 14 Daughter
Alfred C Ellis 81 Lodger. Widowed.
Sandra
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Death of Philomena Ellis - 6 January 1847 USA - 9 December 1911 St. Catharines, Lincoln, Ontario. Aged 64 years. Heart Disease.
Parents - Father's Name Peter Des Jardine - Mother's Name Angeline La Vallee.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:J6FR-L3P
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-C9TF-Q9ZH-P?i=618&personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AJ6FR-L3P
Sandra
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Alfred Ellis - 1840 Port Credit - 26 February 1925 Lincoln Ontario. Aged 85 years.
Cause of Death: Arteriosclerosis Intestinal Obstruction.
Name of father Richard Ellis - England. Informant Mrs Newton. Chattanooga Tenn. (daughter)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JFPC-V77
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JFPC-V77
Sandra
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1920 census Chattanooga Ward 11, Hamilton, Tennessee.
Harry R Newton 38 Head
Maude Newton 38 Wife. born Ontario.
Mervin Newton 13 Son
Harry Newton 9 Son
John Newton 3 Son
1930 census Chattanooga, Hamilton, Tennessee.
Harry F Newton 44 Head
Maud Newton 51 Wife. born Canada.
John Newton 14 Son
1940 census Chattanooga, Hamilton, Tennessee.
Maude E Newton 61 Head. Born Canada. Divorced.
Sandra
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Obit - Harry Newton Ellis - St. Joseph News-Press St. Joseph, Missouri
19 Dec 1932, Mon Page 6
https://www.newspapers.com/clip/83229249/obituary-for-harry-nwton/
Sandra
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Obit for Maude Ellis Newton - Chattanooga Daily Times Chattanooga, Tennessee
26 Feb 1961, Sun Page 25
https://www.newspapers.com/clip/83230104/mrs-maude-newton-26-february-1961/
Sandra