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I have had loads of support from Roots Chat over the years and am extremely grateful for those giving their free time and help.
I/ We have searched for a missing family member since 1946 when the genealogy was started by an earlier generation !
The person in question was supposedly born about 1821. She says Covent Garden. We have found no evidence of that. Over her life she lived in Hackney, Tower Hamlets ,Devizes and Yorkshire.
In 1841 she was living with her Aunt in The Castle Hotel Devizes. Prior to that she was living with the same Aunt and her first husband in Yorkshire. She inherits a large amount of money and money in trust from her Aunts elderly husband when he dies around 1835. This information comes from a will. It also shows that she now has the same “adoptive” surname has her younger sister who still lives in London with her “adoptive” parents. It appears that her parents must have died.
I have deliberately not given her full name because I don’t want to waste people’s time searching for her post 1841. We have everything and more on her life !
My question is where else could I look ?
She has a Wiltshire surname and I’ve searched.
She gives Covent Garden as Place of birth and I’ve searched.
Is there anything else I could do ?
Thank you for reading this ....it is rather long winded !!!
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Hi mitts 191, although I have nothing constructive to help you, I must say that I have had and are still encountering similar problems most of which have been resolved by the valiant efforts our members. May I too add my thanks for their support and hope your problems are soon sorted.
Dave
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Hello miggs, have you looked in newspapers and other journals/books? Not only for the person in question, but also for family members as they sometimes provide clues. Good luck in your search. :)
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"..She gives Covent Garden as Place of birth and I’ve searched."
When, and in what circumstances, does she give her birthplace as Covent Gardens?
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Probably related to these threads. :D
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=622259.msg6897238#msg6897238
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=668644.0
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Civil Registration started on 1st July 1837.
So you aren't going to find any birth records.
What you have to hope for is finding a baptism or christening.
For that it would help if you knew what religious denomination she was?
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Years have passed and I’m still looking. I won’t give up !
I have so much on the life and death of my great great grandmother that it seems impossible that she is not out there somewhere.
As I’ve stated before I know absolutely everything imaginable about her life due to huge amounts of legal documents and letters lodged at the Chippenham Records Office.
Louisa Elizabeth Maslin is allegedly born in Covent Garden in 1821.
She first appears legally in a will in Yorkshire whilst living with her Aunt Sarah. Sarah married Richard Sissons in Rotherhithe London and moves to his home in Yorkshire. She is much younger than him and he dies leaving money and property to his widow and money to Louisa Elizabeth Maslin.
I also know that Louisa has a sister named Sarah who is approximately four years younger than her. This Sarah has been “adopted “ by the Evitt family in London. I have her baptism ,know she lived with Louisa in Devizes when aged around twenty and they both worked as milliners and know that Sarah went on to marry. I also know that there is a connection between the Evitt and Fawkes family’s and that possibly Fawkes May have been a solicitor involved at one point.
Meanwhile Louisa and Sarah’s Aunt Sarah didn’t hang around after her husband Richard Sissons died because she’d already married Richard Chandler in Devizes. He was older too and didn’t last long ! Sarah then moved on to William Grace and together they managed and ran The Castle Hotel in Devizes. At this point Louisa is also still living in Devizes and in the 1841 census she is listed as working there.
None of this gives clues as to who her parents were. I did wonder if maybe she was the illegitimate daughter of the Aunt Sarah but have found no evidence.
Because we have so much information about her life,letters,legal documents and even the medical records from when she ends up penniless in Chorley lunatic asylum, it does seem strange that she doesn’t turn up as christened.
I can almost hear some of you thinking….Oh no ! Not this request again !
But it started in 1946 and we know so much about the Perry family of Devizes that Louisa married into and the Banks family of Potterne and Devizes that her daughter Mary Sarah Sissons Perry married into that I think somewhere out there is the answer to my prayers !
We searched from 1946 to find where the Sissons name came from and out of the blue,after help and suggestions on line, I found it ! All I wanted to do was tell my Aunt and Dad but they had died never solving the problem in their life time but it was out there,so I keep asking and keep looking.
Thank you for reading this. The search goes on !
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I also know that Louisa has a sister named Sarah who is approximately four years younger than her. This Sarah has been “adopted “ by the Evitt family in London. I have her baptism ,know she lived with Louisa in Devizes when aged around twenty and they both worked as milliners and know that Sarah went on to marry.
The problem is that if you are asking for help, you might know all this but we don't. You need to give some factual information otherwise everyone is looking for the same thing to build a picture of the sister's lives, and it all needs to be in one place.
Here are Sarah and Louisa in 1851, both born London, Sarah c1832 and Louisa c1824.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGZJ-PJH
The 1841 census which you believe to be Louisa in Devizes with a possible aunt, Sarah GRACE, was previously posted here. Louisa is said to be born in the county of Wiltshire and is aged 18.
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=668644.9
When Louisa married John PERRY at Devizes in 1846 she said her father was George MASLEN, grocer. The witnesses were James CHANDLER and Caroline THORPE.
Debra :)
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You believe that the possible aunt Sarah was married three times. Can you confirm that these are the marriages:
Sarah MASLIN, spinster and Richard SISSONS, 1822 Southwark, witnesses Richard MASLIN, Jane MASLIN, Richard COOPER
Sarah SISSONS, widow and Richard CHANDLER, 1835 St Pancras, witnesses Edward HILLIER, Martha HILLIER (?)
Sarah CHANDLER and William GRACE married at Devizes in 1841. Do you have this certificate and if so can you give all details from it.
We also need all details from the marriage certificate of Louisa's sister Sarah.
Debra :)
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I also know that Louisa has a sister named Sarah who is approximately four years younger than her. This Sarah has been “adopted “ by the Evitt family in London.
George EVETT and Jane MASLIN didn't marry until 1838. Jane is recorded as a spinster and was in her early to mid thirties so it seems that Louisa and Sarah would have been her children born before the marriage. George was aged about 40 when they married so I wouldn't be surprised if either or both were telling fibs about not being previously married.
Amelia is George and Jane's daughter together.
1841
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MQJV-N1Q
EVETT, AMELIA
Mother's maiden surname: MASLIN
GRO Reference: 1838 J Quarter in HOLBORN UNION - MIDDLESEX Volume 02 Page 147
In 1851 George EVETT is a greengrocer so I have no doubt that he is the person that Louisa is referring to as her father when she married, with a minor adjustment of the surname.
Debra :)
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From a previous thread by Miggs191
It’s taken three years ! But I now know that Sarah Grace was on her third marriage when she married William Grace in Devizes. Prior to that it was Richard Chandler ( married in St Pancras London ) and prior to that Richard Sissons but strangely she gives her father’s name as Richard Mortimore batchelor ! When Richard Sissons dies in 1835 both she and Louisa are clearly named in a will. By the time it is settled she has already married the next one !
I’m now wondering if her mother was Maslen and she was base born or Mortimore was really her maiden name and she married into the Maslen family. I’ll probably never be able to work it out but if any one can shed any light I’d be very grateful.
When Sarah the aunt made her first marriage in 1823 2 to Richard SISSONS, the image shows she had the surname MASLIN. She was a spinster. So that was her birth name.
The witnesses were Richard MASLIN and Jane MASLIN and possibly another Richard HOOKER?
EDIT Debra has this as Richard COOPER.
Above we see that Debra gives the marriage of Sarah's sister Jane as she married EVETT and her maiden surname was also MASLIN.
Therefore Jane had not previously been married to anyone MASLIN, but had daughters outside marriage whose surname was MASLIN. Is that right or not?
Sue
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I really don't know what recorded information you hold, but for your interest.
Sarah Maslen EVITT was baptized in 1843 with a birthdate given of 27 Oct 1831. She is stated daughter of George and Jane
SARAH Maslen EVETT. Daugter of George, a porter and Jane of Titterton Terrace. St Mary Islington.
Amelia was done at the same time. With a birth date of March 1838.
Sue
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In 1851 Jane EVETT states that she is aged 48 and born in St James, Westminster. In 1841 her age is 40, and there is a baptism that could be her. When she married she said her father's name was John.
Jane MASLIN
Birth Date 11 Dec 1798
Baptism Date 19 Mar 1799
Baptism Place St James, Piccadilly (St James, Westminster), London, Westminster, England
Father John MASLIN
Mother Elizabeth MASLIN
It is indexed as MARTIN on Ancestry but the image shows MASLIN.
Debra :)