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Title: 1701 Stoke on Trent Parish Listing
Post by: jacko9 on Monday 26 July 21 12:15 BST (UK)
Hello all,

Hope you're keeping safe and well.

I was hoping if anyone knows where I can access the 1701 Stoke on Trent Parish Listing? I can't seem to find a copy of it

Thanks!
Title: Re: 1701 Stoke on Trent Parish Listing
Post by: KGarrad on Monday 26 July 21 12:26 BST (UK)
Stoke on Trent was only founded in 1910.
It was formed from 6 towns: Burslem, Hanley, Longton, Stoke, Tunstall and Fenton.
Title: Re: 1701 Stoke on Trent Parish Listing
Post by: ChrissieL on Monday 26 July 21 16:01 BST (UK)
Midland Ancestors Shop (online) has many downloadable .pdf files of various churches in Staffordshire and Stoke on Trent. Stoke on Trent St Peter and Vincula 1689 to 1734 is available for a cost of £3.50.  You do not have to be a member to buy items from the online shop

Chris
Title: Re: 1701 Stoke on Trent Parish Listing
Post by: jacko9 on Tuesday 27 July 21 13:56 BST (UK)
Thank you both for your replies.

Apologies, I should have noted it as Stoke-upon-Trent.

I read in the book: Tracing Your Potteries Ancestors that there is a 1701 parish listing but I can't seem to find it, doesn't look like it's available on the Midland Ancestors website either
Title: Re: 1701 Stoke on Trent Parish Listing
Post by: KGarrad on Tuesday 27 July 21 14:33 BST (UK)
There is some info here:
http://www.thepotteries.org/1701/1701.html

or
https://www.staffordshire.gov.uk/Heritage-and-archives/Local-and-community-history/Population/Early-Population-Lists.aspx

Also on Midlands Ancestors  - Book No 486, which presumably you have to buy.
Title: Re: 1701 Stoke on Trent Parish Listing
Post by: jacko9 on Wednesday 28 July 21 13:48 BST (UK)
Thank you for the links, I have come across these in my search for a copy. I think it looks like a case of going into the record office and finding the original.
Title: Re: 1701 Stoke on Trent Parish Listing
Post by: Zen rabbit on Tuesday 03 August 21 18:31 BST (UK)
The 1701 listing was published by the Staffordshire record society. I have a copy if there is anything you want looking up?
Title: Re: 1701 Stoke on Trent Parish Listing
Post by: cjhampson53 on Wednesday 13 October 21 20:46 BST (UK)
Hello - could you please have a look for any Edwards / Edwardes in Penkhull, Hartshill, Botteslow or maybe Fenton?  I have two Daniel Edwards (father & son I think, both farmers) in ~1700 and a John Edwards in Fenton in the 1666 Hearth Tax.  Later (around 1720 ?) the family seems to have moved to Cold Norton near Chebsey.  They are ancestors of my wife's mother.
Thanks & best wishes
Chris
Title: Re: 1701 Stoke on Trent Parish Listing
Post by: Zen rabbit on Thursday 14 October 21 09:09 BST (UK)
For Penkhull liberty listed in the same household:

PE47 - Daniel Edwards (head, married) age 44, Jane Edwards (wife) 42, Deborah Edwards (dau) 16, Hanna E (dau) 15, Jane E (dau) 13, Catherine E (dau) 11, John E (son) 10, Thomas E (son) 8, Richard E (son) 7, Elijah E (son) 5, Elizabeth E (dau) 4, William E (son) 2

Fenton Culvert
FC14 - Reinold Edwards (servant) 24 living with the Hulme family

also Fenton Culvert

FC34 - William Edwards (head/ married) 62, Sara Edwards (wife) 55, Catherine E (dau) 16, Mary E (dau) 14, John E (son) 11, Sarah E (dau) 9, Thomas E (son) 5
Title: Re: 1701 Stoke on Trent Parish Listing
Post by: cjhampson53 on Thursday 14 October 21 21:14 BST (UK)
Many many thanks for this, it confirms that all these are the children of the same Daniel and Jane Edwards - I had wondered if there were two families as there were so many.  I have 4 older children of D & J:
Daniel      Baptism      06 Apr 1679   <<<<      22
Katharine   Baptism      29 Aug 1680         21
John      Baptism      11 Jan 1681/2         19
Jane      Baptism      29 Jul 1683         17
Title: Re: 1701 Stoke on Trent Parish Listing
Post by: cjhampson53 on Thursday 14 October 21 21:17 BST (UK)
Sorry - it got sent half way through ------- I guess they had left home - see the ages calculated for 1701 above.  Daniel jr who is important to our family was later in Botteslow or nearby - do you know if the listing extended that far?  I think I read somewhere that it ends suddenly somewhere around Fenton.  Many thanks again for your help

 
Title: Re: 1701 Stoke on Trent Parish Listing
Post by: Zen rabbit on Friday 15 October 21 10:13 BST (UK)
Curiously Botteslow falls outside the listing which only covers Penkhull, Seabridge, Clayton, Shelton, Hanley and Fenton Culvert. However this may be because it fell outside the remit of Thomas Allen who instigated the compilation.
It should also be noted that ages given in the listings may not be wholely accurate and there are gaps where unnamed individuals were not recorded
Title: Re: 1701 Stoke on Trent Parish Listing
Post by: trish1120 on Friday 15 October 21 11:08 BST (UK)
Bapts of Dan/Janae Edwards are on FreeREG (you may already know this)
Besides children mentioned also are these 2;
07 Oct 1702 SAM
05 May 1706 JOSEPH

Wow looks like 16 children 1679-1706!

+ a Marriage 14 Jan 1702/3 Barlaston of a Daniel Edwards of Stoke to Hellen Hamersley
Title: Re: 1701 Stoke on Trent Parish Listing
Post by: MrGLDNElephant on Friday 18 March 22 16:02 GMT (UK)
The 1701 listing was published by the Staffordshire record society. I have a copy if there is anything you want looking up?

Hi,

I was wondering if you would please look up a Gabriel Keeling (m. Elizabeth nee Anchors) in the 1701 parish listings, they possibly have a son called Samuel Keeling. I was wondering if there are any dates such as his birth?

I would really appreciate the help.
Title: Re: 1701 Stoke on Trent Parish Listing
Post by: trish1120 on Saturday 19 March 22 04:18 GMT (UK)
Sorry I cant help with that request but on FreeREG there are bapts of Gabriel/Elizabeth children;
ELIZAB 25 Jan 1707/8
THOS 25 Sep 1709
GABRIEL 09 Feb 1711/2
JOSHUA 14 Nov 1714
JOHN 30 Dec 1720
ANN 11 May 1723
Use soundex option as one is Keelinge.
Abode as Hanley on Bapts

The Marriage of   Gabriell Keelling to Elizth Anchors was  20 Apr 1707 Whitmore

Trish :)

Possibly earlier Burial Stoke of THOS, Son of Gabriel 01 Jun 1704
There are bapt for children of Gabriel/Sara pre 1704, Sara 1700 and Thos 1702
and a Burial of SARA 08 Aug 1704 wife of Gabr.
Marriage of Gabriel KEALING to Sara HAYNES 26 May 1700 Maer

So either more than one Gab around or he possibly married twice
Title: Re: 1701 Stoke on Trent Parish Listing
Post by: MrGLDNElephant on Saturday 19 March 22 10:51 GMT (UK)
Thank you for this, it is a large possibility that these bapts are Samuel's siblings (as he was born in 1726).

That marriage record is very useful.

Thank you again!
Title: Re: 1701 Stoke on Trent Parish Listing
Post by: trish1120 on Sunday 20 March 22 07:03 GMT (UK)
Your welcome.

It is possible Gabriel was married twice as I noted.

But only looking at the actual image of the 1707 Marriage would clear that up.
Title: Re: 1701 Stoke on Trent Parish Listing
Post by: trish1120 on Sunday 20 March 22 07:04 GMT (UK)
Hi again MrGLDNElephant

May I ask what you know about Samuel?
When/where/who he married?
Death if you have it?

Trish :)
Title: Re: 1701 Stoke on Trent Parish Listing
Post by: trish1120 on Sunday 20 March 22 07:17 GMT (UK)
Did he marry Ann Fowler and was buried 18 Dec 1816 age 90 (1726)?
7 children and one 1 bapt his occp is Feltmaker?


Title: Re: 1701 Stoke on Trent Parish Listing
Post by: MrGLDNElephant on Sunday 20 March 22 09:45 GMT (UK)
Hi Trish,

The Samuel who married Ann Fowler is the one. For a long time he has been the dead end of the Keeling line of my family tree. I have found recent research that indicates the 1701 Parish listings prove that Gabriel and Elizabeth Anchors were his parents. I cannot however seem to access a copy to prove hence I'm trying to confirm the possible connection.

He was born on Keeling's Lane, which I learnt from newspaper clippings his ancestor gave the name.

Many thanks

Jack
Title: Re: 1701 Stoke on Trent Parish Listing
Post by: trish1120 on Sunday 20 March 22 10:49 GMT (UK)
Hopefully Zen rabbit can help you with that.

But am I being a bit  dense as I cant see how it will help of Gabriel/Elizabeth didnt marry until 1707.
Title: Re: 1701 Stoke on Trent Parish Listing
Post by: Zen rabbit on Sunday 20 March 22 17:37 GMT (UK)
From S-o-T Parish listings 1701
Hanley area
Gabriel Keeling head Married age 22
Sara keeling  wife age 21
Sara Keeling daughter age 6 months

They live next door to several other Keeling families

Mary Keeling widow age 50
Mary Keeling  age 13
Elijah Keeling age 11
Elisha Keeling age 9
Elizabeth Keeling age 6
Deborah Keeling age 2

above them is:
Thomas Keeling married 30
Hanna Keeling wife 31
Sara Keeling daughter 8
Hanna Keeling daughter 6
Abigail Keeling daughter 3
John Keeling son 6 months

and above them is:
Mary Keeling Widow 52
Robert Keeling son 20
Catherine Keeling daughter 14
Alice Keeling daughter 12

No mention of Samuel anywhere in the listing
Title: Re: 1701 Stoke on Trent Parish Listing
Post by: trish1120 on Monday 21 March 22 02:51 GMT (UK)
So looks like the Gabriel I mentioned earlier with 1st Wife;

Hanley area
Gabriel Keeling head Married age 22
Sara keeling  wife age 21
Sara Keeling daughter age 6 months

Trish :)
Title: Re: 1701 Stoke on Trent Parish Listing
Post by: MrGLDNElephant on Monday 21 March 22 10:30 GMT (UK)
Thank you Trish and ZenRabbit for the help. I'll continue to do some further digging. There were lots of Keelings in the area!

Thanks again