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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Antrim => Topic started by: benchurian on Wednesday 21 July 21 04:12 BST (UK)
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I am trying to trace a John McGough who was born approx 1820 in Belfast. His occupation was a cordonnier or shoemaker. He emigrated to Quebec Canada around 1845 and appears on the 1851 census for Quebec. It is the Irish connection I am really after as I have most of his life in Canada. Thanks for reading this and your help.
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As there is no reply to my query can I assume there is no record of John McGough in Antrim or in the six counties covered by PRONI? Thank you
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Statutory birth registration didn't start in Ireland till 1864. Prior to that you need to rely on church baptism records. You haven't said what denomination John was. Most surviving RC records are on-line, but only some of the other denominations records are on-line, and not all churches have records for the 1820s. So if not RC, you might need to go to PRONI and look the records up. Ideally you need John's parents names from say a marriage or death certificate, to be sure of finding the right family.This may not be an easy search.
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See also this thread on Monaghan board-
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=851317.0
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In the light of the above, I would add that PRONI's records include Co. Monaghan (and Cavan & Donegal) as well as the 6 counties of Northern Ireland, but if you don't have a reliable place of birth, then you are searching for the proverbial needle in a haystack.
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A quick search on indexes:
John McGeough baptised 5th July 1820
Tullyallen, Tyrone
Parents: Terrence McGeough, Alicia Nugent
John McGough baptised 8th April 1821
Dundalk, Louth
Parents: James McGough, Rose McGough
John McGough baptised 24th February 1818
Haggardstown, Louth
Parents: Hugh McGough, Ann Conner
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1817, Monasterboice, Louth
And a couple in 1825
Several published trees have Thomas Gough and Elizabeth McKenna as parents if your John is the one who died 1875, Quebec.
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See also this thread on Monaghan board-
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=851317.0
Yes that's me on a fishing trip
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Quote "Several published trees have Thomas Gough and Elizabeth McKenna as parents if your John is the one who died 1875, Quebec".
Can you tell me where you found this? On going through the mass of papers I have, I came across something I had missed. John died 30th May 1875 in L'Isle-Verde, Quebec. I'm sorry I should have said that at the start. This could certainly be our man.
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The trees are published on Ancestry.
The information is also shown here
https://www.joanshome.com/genealogy1/getperson.php?personID=I1347&tree=genealogy1
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Thank you for that piece of info. I do appreciate it.
You mentioned "Several published trees have Thomas Gough and Elizabeth McKenna as parents". Can you give me the links to these trees? Also would PRONI have any info on the birth or marriage of the parents?
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If you have Ancestry, you can easily find them by searching for John McGough with those parents.
There are about 16 trees in all.
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Thank you. I do not have ancestry but do any of these sites have the Ireland branch of the family or are they all in Canada?
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No they are all the Canadian.
The references to the parents have no records.
However, on the one I linked, the parents names seem to have been taken from a marriage record.
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I have a Rose McGough; b. 1826, Seatown, Dundalk, Co Louth, IRL.
She had a twin; Thomas. I have a Patrick McGough and Ann McDonnell as parents.
Rose married Thomas Campbell and emigrated to Geneva, NY USA.
Chuck
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I have a Rose McGough; b. 1826, Seatown, Dundalk, Co Louth, IRL.
She had a twin; Thomas. I have a Patrick McGough and Ann McDonnell as parents.
Rose married Thomas Campbell and emigrated to Geneva, NY USA.
Chuck
This thread (on the ANTRIM board) applies to a family from Belfast. You'd be better off making a separate post on the LOUTH board.
However, you should first check the online R.C. Parish Records (free) for Dundalk (although you haven't actually given the family's religion).
https://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0216
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Just found your thread on LOUTH board- see my previous comment of yet another of your posts today about reliability of Ancestry Thrulines-
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=887989.0;topicseen