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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Northumberland => Topic started by: Tickettyboo on Wednesday 14 July 21 18:02 BST (UK)
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Mary Grey/Gray married Matthew Anderson 21 Oct 1848 aftr Banns at All Saints , Newcastle
Of 'full age' and a spinster, father William Gray decd occ miner.
Her age in the census returns and at death equates to her being born 1825 +/- the usual parameters depending on who knew what. Her birth place in 1851 and 1861 is given as Kenton.
1851 P2401/F162/Pg14
1861 P 3812/F 97/ Pg 28
She's not a problem to trace after marriage through to her death in 1862, but her birth is proving more difficult
Given the list of possibles I have found for this family (see below) the current favourite theory is that as there is no trace of her baptism at Gosforth IF her Dad moved to another pit c 1822 and then the family returned to Kenton by 1826, therefore Kenton was the first place she remembered living. Then this baptism may fit the bill?
St Andrew Newcastle, Nov 16 1823
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-D1HQ-NBH?
Thanks
Boo
Long list of what I have 'tentatively' found for this family (hopefully will save others from having to search from scratch, just to be told, yeah I knew that !)
1841 census Low Felling, Heworth
Piece 297/Book 2/Folio 27/Page 12 and next image
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MQBZ-342
1848 Dad William, a deputy aged 50, died in 1848 at Felling Pit , (head fractured by stone)
1851 census for Mary's widowed Mam, Ann, and children still at home
Low Felling, Heworth
Piece 2401/Folio 172/Pg 34
Possibles:
1818 Marriage Gosforth William Grey and Ann Dawson
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-627S-6XL?
1819 Baptism, Gosforth Thomas Grey
1819 Burial Gosforth, Thomas Grey age 2 weeks
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-627S-Z9T?
1820 Baptism, Gosforth Ann Grey - not with parents in 1841
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-627S-H7G?
1822 Baptism, Gosforth, Thomas Grey - not with parents in 1841
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-627S-7LD?
1822 Burial, Gosforth Thomas Grey, aged 11 days
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-627S-7BB?
1826 Baptism Gosforth, William Grey - on above census as 11 in 1841 and 23 in 1851
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-627S-DWY?
1830 Baptism Gosforth, Matthew Grey - on above census as 5 in 1841 and 20 in 1851
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-627S-422?
1833 Baptism Hetton le Hole, John Grey - on above census as 5 in 1841 and 17 in 1851
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-68R7-RCK?
1836 Baptism Hetton le Hole, Dinah Gray - on above census as 1851 as 14 (Lord knows where she was in 1841!)
transcript (no Bts for this year) baptised 26 Jun 1836 Dinah Gray of Cross Lanes (same abode as John in 1833) born 11 May daughter of William (pitman) and Ann Gray.
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Well, my first instinct is to say that this is indeed a straw to clutch. I have discovered one or two instances where the place of birth given in the census is in fact the place where the person spent their remembered childhood.
I did think of some alternative scenarios, but they don't seem to apply in your case.
1. Gosforth parish church is about 2 miles from Kenton so they might have found a nearby church in a different parish.
2 They might have had several children "done" together as a batch. Very popular with my ancestors. But the family seem to have stayed loyal to Gosforth while in the area.
I shall keep thinking!
Mag
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Well, my first instinct is to say that this is indeed a straw to clutch. I have discovered one or two instances where the place of birth given in the census is in fact the place where the person spent their remembered childhood.
I did think of some alternative scenarios, but they don't seem to apply in your case.
1. Gosforth parish church is about 2 miles from Kenton so they might have found a nearby church in a different parish.
2 They might have had several children "done" together as a batch. Very popular with my ancestors. But the family seem to have stayed loyal to Gosforth while in the area.
I shall keep thinking!
Mag
Thanks for looking Geordie Mag (and apologies for not replying to you sooner)
Yes, it 'feels' right, but I can't document feelings so will hold off from adding this to my tree till I see if I can find any alternate baptisms that 'may' be her.
I'm always very wary of making the mistake that its kind of right and its the only one I can find. She may have been baptised somewhere that doesn't yet have records online.
I'll leave it in the 'possible, but nothing else to confirm it' folder for now.
Just annoying that the one child I can't confirm is the one in the direct line!
Boo