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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Antrim => Topic started by: ab196 on Tuesday 22 June 21 18:17 BST (UK)
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Hi everyone.
I don't think I have asked this before but it has become something of a brick wall.
I have a Samuel Henry born 1861 in Belfast and married in 1900 to Sophia McCormick.
However on his marriage certificate of 1900 he is said to be a widower. As I have no details
whatsoever of the first marriage I am wondering if anyone might be able to help.
Thanks.
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Marriage (1900) gives Samuel Henry as a plasterer and father Patrick Henry a grocer- all inportant clues when looking for Samuel's previous marriage.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1900/10342/5765201.pdf
Using an online database nothing shows up in County Antrim or County Down for another Samuel Henry marriage with father Patrick so it's possible the previous marriage didn't take place in Belfast area.
Death for a Patrick Henry, grocer, in Belfast, could possibly be your Samuel's father-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1895/05917/4679944.pdf
The Will of Patrick Henry late of 29 M'Cleery-street Belfast Grocer who died 23 October 1895 was proved at Belfast by Peter M'Namee of Great Patrick-street Belfast Spirit Dealer and James Corr of Chichester-street Belfast Rent Agent the Executors. Effects £22. Will mentions 3 sons (William, Samuel, James) & daughters (Mary Jane, Rose, Catherine)
https://apps.proni.gov.uk/WillsCalendar_IE/WillsSearch.aspx
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For reference-
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/St__Anne_s_Ward/Great_Georges_Street/959758/
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/Belfast_East/Great_George_s_Street/143344/
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Thanks aghadowey
It probably is possible that the marriage was not in Belfast.
I maybe should look further afield.
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It doesn't answer your question but....
Patrick Henry married Catherine McDonald (or McDonnel) in Delvin (Westmeath) 24/1/1866. They had children recorded under Delvin, Mary Ann 1868, Rose Anne 1874, Margaret 1878. Catherine died in Belfast 25/10/1890, Son Samuel was informant for her death , son James Joseph for his father's . On Mary Ann's registration , Patrick is a shopkeeper, on the other two a farmer. The births of the other children mentioned in will have still to be found ( there are an awful lot of Henry's )
Cheers
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It doesn't answer your question but....
Patrick Henry married Catherine McDonald (or McDonnel) in Delvin (Westmeath) 24/1/1866. They had children recorded under Delvin, Mary Ann 1868, Rose Anne 1874, Margaret 1878. Catherine died in Belfast 25/10/1890, Son Samuel was informant for her death , son James Joseph for his father's . On Mary Ann's registration , Patrick is a shopkeeper, on the other two a farmer. The births of the other children mentioned in will have still to be found ( there are an awful lot of Henry's )
Marriage of Patrick Henry & Catherine McDonald-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1866/11524/8238139.pdf
Is this Patrick of Glenidon, Co. Westmeath anything at all to do with the Patrick Henry of this thread?
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Ah, the plot thickens....
A Patrick Henry, grocer (and sometime publican) of Henry St Belfast and Catherine Kane had a daughter Roseann born Dec 1867 (registered1868), followed by Patrick Joseph 26/11/1869, Joseph 28/12/1871, and possibly others ( brain fug set in). So one Patrick or two ?? There are at least two versions on Ancestry....hmmm
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You still haven't explained how, or if, the Patrick Henry from Westmeath could fit into the family the OP is/was researching ???
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Apologies, up wrong tree was barking. Patrick Henry and Catherine Kane had son Samuel baptised in St Patrick's Belfast 1861. I was making classic 2+2 = 5 🙄. I cannot identify a death of first wife and the 1901 census shows no sign of children by first wife (no Henry grandchildren). But note the unusual birthplace of second wife (India). Was there a military connection? Did first marriage and death of spouse occur there? When brain has rebooted will investigate tomorrow 🙂 ( am away from computer and notes at moment)
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Catherine McCormack , Samuel Henry's (2nd) mother in law of 1901 census, died 4th Dec 1910. On the registration " widow of James McCormick an army pensioner" So looks like there is a possibilty of the first marriage and death of spouse being in India. Was Samuel known to to have ever served in Army ??
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Catherine McCormack , Samuel Henry's (2nd) mother in law of 1901 census, died 4th Dec 1910. On the registration " widow of James McCormick an army pensioner" So looks like there is a possibilty of the first marriage and death of spouse being in India. Was Samuel known to to have ever served in Army ??
As aghadowey has already linked the 1901 census in reply #2, here's the link for her death in 1910 as McCormick.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1910/05414/4512945.pdf
The informant was her unmarried daughter Mary Ann.
KG
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Here is Sophia McCormick's baptismal entry in Madras 29/7/1867. You can see father James's rank and regiment. No sign of any Henry connection though.
https://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=BL%2FBIND%2F005137627%2F00173&parentid=BL%2FBIND%2FB%2F337336
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It would be nice to see OP back in this thread but in any case it looks as though there's lots of confusion due to what has since been posted.
I mentioned the Patrick Henry as a possible father for Samuel Henry. However just because Samuel lived in Belfast doesn't mean that his father did.
Patrick Henry married Catherine McDonald (or McDonnel) in Delvin (Westmeath) 24/1/1866. They had children recorded under Delvin, Mary Ann 1868, Rose Anne 1874, Margaret 1878. Catherine died in Belfast 25/10/1890, Son Samuel was informant for her death , son James Joseph for his father's . On Mary Ann's registration , Patrick is a shopkeeper, on the other two a farmer. The births of the other children mentioned in will have still to be found ( there are an awful lot of Henry's )
Patrick Henry (1835-1895) m.(1866) Catherine McDonald
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1866/11524/8238139.pdf
Some children-
1. Mary Anne (1868 Westmeath) https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FPTK-TZR
2. Catherine (1870 Westmeath) https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F5NP-DN5
3. Michael (1872 Westmeath) https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FR9T-K9B
4. Rose Ann (1874 Westmeath) https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FPTN-XF2
5. Elizabeth (1876 Westmeath) https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FRS4-YBV
6. Margaret (1878 Westmeath) https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FRS2-6L6
7. Peter (1880 Westmeath) https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FPT6-GYV
In order for a son Samuel to have been born c1861 (pre-registration) then it would be before this 1866 marriage but Patrick Henry listed as bachelor for marriage to Catherine McDonald.
Some children of Patrick Henry & Catherine Kane (also from FamilySearch)-
1. Patrick (1864) https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FRHP-4X2
2. William John (1865) https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F5RT-Q2K
3. Roseann (Dec.1867) https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FP1J-P4Y
4. Patrick Joseph (1869) https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QGV3-PPPS
5. Joseph (1871) https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FPBJ-7PX
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The Will of Patrick Henry late of 29 M'Cleery-street Belfast Grocer who died 23 October 1895 was proved at Belfast by Peter M'Namee of Great Patrick-street Belfast Spirit Dealer and James Corr of Chichester-street Belfast Rent Agent the Executors. Effects £22. Will mentions 3 sons (William, Samuel, James) & daughters (Mary Jane, Rose, Catherine)
Daughter Mary Jane was Henessey
Rose seems to have married Richard Mason, 24 Dec 1900, at same church as Samuel earlier in year.
Witnessed by Samuel Henry and Mary Hennessey
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1900/10360/5771639.pdf
Though Samuel Henry marked, whereas on the February marriage to Sophia he signed (if it same person) Both Rose and Samuel had addresses in New Lodge Road on marriage.
Possible Rose in 1901?
Age 30, born Belfast
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/Dock_Ward/Spamount_Street/937335/
1911
Rose Mason, 39, born Belfast, with husband Richard.
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/Dock_Ward/Burke_Street/136273/
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Marriage at St Patrick's Belfast, 18 Nov 1869
Joseph Hennessey, 33, Mechanic
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Mary Jane Henry, 18, Spinster, Shop Girl, father Patrick Henry, Grocer
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1869/11435/8200562.pdf
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And here is Mary Jane in Henry Street in 1901
Age 48, born Belfast
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/Dock_Ward/Henry_Street/1003465/
Husband Joseph Hennessy, 60, Mill Mechanic.
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A 20 year old William Henry of 29 McCleery Street married Mary Corrigan in St. Patrick's RC church, Belfast, in 1884, the groom's father was given as Patrick Henry, grocer (dead), the witnesses were Samuel Henry and Rosenia Mary Henry:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1885/10855/5963833.pdf
Widower William living on the New Lodge Road in 1901, with sister Catherine in the household:
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/Dock_Ward/New_Lodge_Road/936961/
1911:
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/Dock_Ward/Singleton_Street/138270/
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James McCormick moved into 142 Great Georges St between 1877 and 1880 (Belfast St Directories)
There is no sign of Samuel Henry, plasterer, in these that I can find, but his brother James Joseph Henry does appear in Cape St as a plasterer. James appears in Cape St in 1901 census with his wife Susanne Smyth (married 9/9/1884). Could Samuel have been working/living with his brother before marrying and moving in with the McCormick family? Or maybe he was living with his widowed brother William, whose wife Mary Corrigan is likely the Mary Henry who died from "English Cholera" 21/7/1893 ? Either way we are still unable to find any trace of Samuel's previous marriage or wife in Belfast or indeed Ireland ???
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Samuel Henry died at 140 Great Georges St, Belfast, 18th July 1924. Informant Catherine Kelly, daughter (born 1/4/1900, not long after her parent's wedding :) )
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A theory;-
Since there are no Henry grandchildren living with Samuel and new McCormick in laws in 1901, we have several possible conclusions . 1. His first marriage was brief and produced no offspring. 2. He had children but they are living with his deceased wife's family. 3, It all happened abroad.
After a prolonged search there is no obvious sign of his previous marriage or wife's death, or children in Ireland, and a look at the Scottish indexes shows no likely candidates for any of these. England is possible but unlikely. I have had a previous case where there was emigration to North America followed by a failure to settle successfully and return to Ireland . Could this be another one ? There are multiple Samuel Henrys on ship passenger lists and Canadian census returns including one who is a "labourer" born Ireland, but none of them quite fit. Maybe someone else could have better luck (and a higher level subscription to Ancestry/ Findmypast ::) )
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Hi everyone.
I want to thank all of you for your efforts in trying to help me solve this mystery. It is appreciated.
I have quite a bit of information on the Henry family - some discovered after a lot of searching but also quite a lot passed on to me by gaffy and aghadowey and so many other kind people on this site.
Just a few things to note:- The Patrick Henry from Glenidon, Co. Westmeath is not connected to this family. Patrick Henry married to Catherine Kane is the correct one and the names of the children of those parents are correct also.
The India connection concerns Bridget Sophia McCormick, daughter of James and Catherine. She was born in Tamil Nadu when James was in the military.
Rose Henry was married to Richard Mason and she and her son, daughter -in-law and grandchildren lost their lives in the Belfast blitz when Burke Street was wiped out during World War II.
The Henry living in Cape Street is also correct as is Mary married to Hennessey.
I found the part about Samuel making his mark at one wedding and signing at another interesting as stories passed down the family mentioned his love of books which would indicate his ability to read and write.
Patrick Henry died in 1895.
I have thought in the past that perhaps stating that Samuel Henry was a widower on his wedding day to Sophia was a mistake - but what a mistake!
So I guess the mystery still remains unsolved.