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Title: Summerhill Girls School Athlone
Post by: Murrell on Monday 14 June 21 23:30 BST (UK)
Hi everyone, Hope I'm posting on  correct page. Summerhill Girls School Athlone County Meath.
My grandmother Catherine/Kate Kearns was referred there from Rathdrum Workhouse in 1912 until 1918 while her brother John was sent to St Joseph's Athlone until 1917.
I have seen some information about Summerhill but wondered if there would be any archive records from Kate's time there. This is a period she never spoke about and l have only learnt of this recently.
Title: Re: Summerhill Girls School Athlone
Post by: aghadowey on Tuesday 15 June 21 09:14 BST (UK)
Might be worth a try- bottom of page- Ask A Librarian
https://www.meath.ie/council/council-services/libraries/local-studies-and-family-history
Title: Re: Summerhill Girls School Athlone
Post by: dathai on Tuesday 15 June 21 09:28 BST (UK)
Sisters of Mercy
https://www.colaistechiarainathlone.ie/about/school-history/
Title: Re: Summerhill Girls School Athlone
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Tuesday 15 June 21 09:47 BST (UK)

Coláiste Chiaráin in Co Roscommon. (Athlone primarily in Co Westmeath)
https://tinyurl.com/9rxte8d8
https://tinyurl.com/crhyb89w



Title: Re: Summerhill Girls School Athlone
Post by: dathai on Tuesday 15 June 21 09:53 BST (UK)
EMail address for Archives
https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/a/A13530604
Title: Re: Summerhill Girls School Athlone
Post by: Murrell on Tuesday 15 June 21 10:12 BST (UK)
Many thanks for info- l will update you all when l have made progress 😃
Title: Re: Summerhill Girls School Athlone
Post by: Murrell on Monday 20 December 21 23:58 GMT (UK)
Hi everyone, sorry this is late reply l contacted Sisters of Mercy and the archivist could not find any reference to Kate/Catherine Kearns. I am left wondering if Kate never actually went to the school but it wasn't recorded at the time. Many thanks for your interest
Title: Re: Summerhill Girls School Athlone
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Tuesday 21 December 21 10:35 GMT (UK)

What bad luck, Murrell  :(

You and others might be interested in the location of Summerhill House, the forerunner of Summerhill Girls School. It's in the townland of Crannagh - on the western side of the R446.
https://www.townlands.ie/roscommon/athlone/drum/crannagh/crannagh/

Using the GeoHive National Townland and Historical Map Viewer (which is back up and running again) here's the Historic 6" First Edition Colour map (1830's) showing Summerhill House.

Click on the relevant map in Basemap Gallery.

https://arcg.is/0i4buv1


Title: Re: Summerhill Girls School Athlone
Post by: econ1219 on Thursday 15 August 24 14:14 BST (UK)
Hi were you able to find any more information on this school?
Title: Re: Summerhill Girls School Athlone
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Friday 16 August 24 10:36 BST (UK)

Welcome to RootsChat  :)

The OP (Murrell) was last online here last Monday and may reply to your question.

Click on the relevant map in Basemap Gallery.

https://arcg.is/0i4buv1

Just updating the broken link in reply #7
https://arcg.is/CTHu5


Title: Re: Summerhill Girls School Athlone
Post by: Murrell on Sunday 18 August 24 12:06 BST (UK)
Hi econ 1219 sorry  to say l haven't moved on any further with searches into this school and where my grandmother was educated. I had thought originally as her mother had died and the family had entered the  workhouse regularly (most winter periods) that the workhouse were trying to  help the two boys and Kate get  some stability. I'm guessing the workhouse wouldn't have wanted the children living there infinitely.
If l managed to learn anymore about the school l will post here Kathleen
Title: Re: Summerhill Girls School Athlone
Post by: econ1219 on Sunday 18 August 24 15:22 BST (UK)
Thanks, do you know if the Summerhill Industrial School was separate from the Athlone Workhouse?

I am trying to understand what type of school it was at the time. I have three ancestors who were at the Summerhill school in the 1911 census.
Title: Re: Summerhill Girls School Athlone
Post by: Murrell on Sunday 18 August 24 22:19 BST (UK)
Hi econ1219
All l know about the school is the reference to my grandmother stating she  was due t to be sent there - perhaps the school was part of the workhouse. Maybe you could get more detail about the workhouse if you Google the name it may bring up Peter Higginbottom who l think has researched all the workhouses he was linked to Leeds University Yorkshire Kathleen
Title: Re: Summerhill Girls School Athlone
Post by: Sinann on Sunday 18 August 24 23:14 BST (UK)
St. Joseph's Industrial School Summerhill Athlone?
The rules about access to records of Industrial Schools changed some years ago as part of a redress scheme. This was written for survivors of the schools but might be worth a look.
http://mydatarights.ie/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/Access-to-Records-Guide_Industrial-Reformatory-School-Survivors.pdf
Title: Re: Summerhill Girls School Athlone
Post by: aghadowey on Monday 19 August 24 09:07 BST (UK)
Athlone Workhouse history, etc.
https://www.workhouses.org.uk/Athlone/
https://www.irelandxo.com/ireland-xo/history-and-genealogy/buildings-database/athlone-workhouse
Title: Re: Summerhill Girls School Athlone
Post by: econ1219 on Monday 19 August 24 17:03 BST (UK)
From my understanding, it appears that the workhouse was located by the river on Abbey Road, and the Summerhill Girls School (St. Josephs Industrial School) ran by the Sister's of Mercy was where the current Coláiste Chiaráin school is in Crannagh.
Title: Re: Summerhill Girls School Athlone
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Monday 19 August 24 17:42 BST (UK)

From my understanding, it appears that the workhouse was located by the river on Abbey Road, and the Summerhill Girls School (St. Josephs Industrial School) ran by the Sister's of Mercy was where the current Coláiste Chiaráin school is in Crannagh.

Yep…you're right - see replies #3, #7 and #9

Athlone Workhouse (1897-1913 map) - MapGenie 25 Inch - ITM
https://arcg.is/1e8TP80


Title: Re: Summerhill Girls School Athlone
Post by: rathmore on Wednesday 28 August 24 12:34 BST (UK)
http://wicklow.ie

then type in Box- Minutes 1912

the click on Rathdrum Board of guardians

then click on 1912 it is on page 487 (543)

it says:  Read letter dated 21.9.1912 from the under secretary Dublin Castle stating that the chief secretary has been please to fix 5 shilling per week as contribution which the guardens should pay towards the maintenace of Kate Kearns an inmate of the Summerhill industrial school at Athlone9
Title: Re: Summerhill Girls School Athlone
Post by: rathmore on Thursday 29 August 24 12:34 BST (UK)
Sorry about my typing.

if you go through

http://www.wicklow.ie

type in box: Rathdrum Board of Guardians minutes 1839-1921

no. in register Kearns John no. 90, Kate no. 91, James no.92

under ref: PLUR WR 32-31 May 1912 to 31 Mar 1914 part 1 type of file PDF