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Title: William Brooks - date of death?
Post by: Kerrymitch on Monday 07 June 21 04:18 BST (UK)
I have a William Brooks born born 1807 in Bury Lancashire in my ancestry, and he married Ellen Wood on 5 December 1836 (I'm fairly certain of that date). Ellen Wood came from Dundalk Ireland, and was 5-6 years older than William I believe. I'm noting that, as there is another couple with the same names so it can get a little confusing. (That other William went to Australia as a convict I think).
I do not have a death date for William. Can anybody assist? They had a son Joseph who came to NZ where I am.  I haven't followed up with other children, I'm not so concerned with them at this stage.
Title: Re: William Brooks - date of death?
Post by: heatherjulie on Monday 07 June 21 07:04 BST (UK)
Marriage: 5 Nov 1836 St Peter, Bolton, Lancashire, England
William Brooks - (X), Bachelor, This Parish [Bolton]
Ellen Wood - (X), Spinster, This Parish [Bolton]
Witness: Joseph Wood; James Liptrot
Married by Banns by: J Slade Vicar

Have you found them in any census?
Title: Re: William Brooks - date of death?
Post by: heatherjulie on Monday 07 June 21 07:12 BST (UK)
Is this the family in 1861 in Bury?

William Brooks Head 54 born Bury Brick setter
Ellen Brooks Wife 60 born Ireland
Joseph Brooks Son 22 born Bury Brick Setter
John Brooks Uncle 44 born Bury Musicain Blind

1871
William Brooks Head 61 born Bury Bricklayer
Ellen Brooks Wife 65 born Ireland
Title: Re: William Brooks - date of death?
Post by: heatherjulie on Monday 07 June 21 07:14 BST (UK)
One to consider although the age is a bit out
Burial: 17 Jul 1871 St Paul, Bury, Lancashire, England
William Brooks -
Age: 65 years
Abode: Bury
Buried by: James Chell
Title: Re: William Brooks - date of death?
Post by: Koria on Saturday 09 August 25 03:09 BST (UK)
re:William Brooks2859 ^5th Regiment of Foot.
I have located a copy of the Death Certificate- No 68: for William Brooks 2849 ex 65th regiment of foot  nz. NZ. He died of Dropsy in the Wanganui Public Hospital, New Zealand, July 5th 1865.

I have also located a copy of his marriage certificate No.1 district 292-

0n 12th October 1853 William Brooks Batchelor aged 31yrs married Ruihi Ruihi spinster aged 18yrs in the dwelling house  (for want of a chapel) of Fr. John Steven Pezant, Catholic Priest, resident, at Wanganui. In the presence of Bernard Eustace , the Bridegroom's friend, and Poewa, the Bride's sister.
signed J. St. Pezant,
 There is a footnote: I, the undersigned, do hereby certify that this marriage has been the only one I have solemnized in the year 1853; Wanganui, December 31st 1853 - signed J. St. Pezant, Cath. Pr. Officiating Minister, Catholic Priest. (Both Bride and Groom have signed.)
Title: Re: William Brooks - date of death?
Post by: mckha489 on Saturday 09 August 25 05:02 BST (UK)
Are you wanting help to trace your William back?
I don’t think he is in anyway the same William this post was about.
Suggest you ask moderator to split it off to a new thread.

Use the “report to Moderator”  blue writing lower right of post.
Title: Re: William Brooks - date of death?
Post by: Koria on Saturday 09 August 25 23:41 BST (UK)
Good morning
Thank you for your comment and suggestion re the moderator.
I am curious to know why you think this is not "My' William Brooks. Would you like to comment further in order for me to understand better. I would really appreciate your response. The journey is long and twisted at times and another person's understanding is always refreshing. cheers and thank you again.
Title: Re: William Brooks - date of death?
Post by: mckha489 on Sunday 10 August 25 00:34 BST (UK)
The William Brooks in the opening post of the thread was born in 1807.
In the thread he is followed until at least 1861. 

Your William Brooks was 31 in 1853, so born about 1822. I know people were vague about their ages then, but that is a big difference.
Age 47 at death gives another year of birth of about 1818 - Still a long way from 1807

Also  he was obviously in NZ by 1853.

The British Army World Wide Index on FindMyPast has him in NZ in 1861 as you would expect. So he cannot be in Bury.

Have you made enquiries at the National Library (NZ) which looks to have a lot of documents.
From the summary here https://natlib.govt.nz/records/22357254. the latest William could have arrived here is in 1852. But possibly as early as 1846. 

Did you perhaps mean to attach your message to a different thread?
Title: Re: William Brooks - date of death?
Post by: mckha489 on Sunday 10 August 25 00:59 BST (UK)
Have you looked at

'Discharged in New Zealand' (Soldiers of the Regimental Foot regiments who took their discharge in NZ 1840-1870) by Hugh and Lyn Hughes


Yes you have
Title: Re: William Brooks - date of death?
Post by: mckha489 on Sunday 10 August 25 01:02 BST (UK)
You had a whole other thread of info!

https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=852641.0
Title: Re: William Brooks - date of death?
Post by: Koria on Sunday 10 August 25 23:04 BST (UK)
Good day to you and thank you for your response.

I have been most fortunate in that I have been able to trace my William Brooks .
he took the Queens shilling and enlisted with the 65th regiment of foot  25th Jan 1851 at the age of 22yrs Along with his brother John who was 20 years old at that time.

William arrived in Wellington aboard the freighter "True Britton".

I have copies of his enlistment etc; his baptism, his marriage and his death certificate. All of this would not have been achieved without the help of members of 'Roots Web'. I am most grateful.

Because I did not quite understand your first message- I was prompted to go to the site's home page and learn more about how best to use it.

THANK YOU again and I wish you well. Cheers.