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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Yorkshire (North Riding) => Topic started by: brooksburns on Thursday 03 June 21 21:18 BST (UK)
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Does anyone know of good resources for general local history of particular places - just to get an idea of what daily life was like - perhaps maps (besides maps.nls.uk), narrative descriptions, local museum/archaeological collections specific to very local areas, or anything else that just gives an additional angle.
In particular, I'm curious just now about East Row, a tiny coastal place just up from Whitby. My folks were there for the whole 18th century (surnames Linton, Stonehouse, Graham). Occupations: labourer; brewer; roper. I'd love to have more understanding of what life was like for them.
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GenUKI has this to say:
"EAST ROW, in the township of Newholme-with-Dunsley, and parish of Whitby, wapentake of Whitby-Strand; 2½ miles WNW. of Whitby."
See: https://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/NRY/Whitby/more
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There's a very good museum at Pannett Park in Whitby - I'm sure they'd help.
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Thanks, this museum looks great! Very eclectic too - even a pressed flower collection!
Here's the link: https://whitbymuseum.org.uk/whats-here/collections/
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Whitby Library has a small local history section. There are transcriptions of parish registers, censuses etc done by the Fylingdales Local History Group. There is a microfilm reader available (in normal times) for visitors to look at the Whitby Gazette archives. I don't know what the current rules are re: visiting & using that at present.
Not far away there are small interesting museums at Robin Hood's Bay and Staithes.
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Type "East Clevelands image Archive" into your search engine, and enjoy! Apparently, East row is part of Sandsend now, the nearest bit as you go up the coat from Whitby, they developed as one as the Alum industry (were any of yours labourers in that industry?) developed. The surname "Stonehouse" is in at least two photographs in that archive. I've been having a fascinated browse around in it since I found it earlier, as I knew the area in the 1960s. I'm sure you'll find lots of interest there.
TY
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Also just come upon a site simply called "Sandsend History" by an Alison Small, with images, census records featuring the names you are interested in, right up to 1939 register. Try browsing around that, you'll enjoy it!
TY
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Thanks very much ThrelfallYorky!
You're right, it's now part of Sandsend, though the name "East Row" remains as a street name.
My understanding is the alum works was a 19th century development, by which time my folks had left for warmer climes (Bedlington Ironworks). So it's specifically the 18th century I'm looking at for now. (Hopefully earlier too, once I can trace the people back. A wee plug for William Linton m Mary Saunderson 1728 Lythe - that's my earliest date just now, if anyone can help me trace back from it.)
Back on the 18th century, I know there was plenty shipbuilding in Whitby around then and James Cook was there for a while - maybe that's the industry my "roper" was involved with.
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Well....boats were built at East Row area, if you look at the images on the second site I suggested. But then ropeworks were at lots of places - in Leyburn there's a "Ropeworks".
Fascinating, browsing through, though.
I'll have a little hunt after William & Mary when I've a spot of time.
Happy hunting
TY
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The alum works were much earlier -
The book “The Alum Farm” by R B TURTON, printed by Horne & Son, Ltd, Whitby in 1938 says that the CHALONER family became involved in the mining of Alum in Ireland, Dorset and the Isle of Wight in Elizabethan times.
By the early 1600s Alum was being mined in Cleveland and mention is made of Sandsend and Asholme. (Asholme if I remember right was where they mined the Alum ore in Mulgrave woods.)
Page 79 “a warrant directing the arrears to be paid on the 1st May 1617” ~~~ “The spiritual needs of the workmen and the education of their children were not neglected. William WARD, minister at Guisborough, preached at the works in his neighbourhood at a yearly salary of eighty marks, and Richard LEAKE, minister at Lyth, preached at Asholme and Sandsend at a salary of £40.”
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Go to "British Newspaper Archive" and use their free search facility to check out "East Row" and the Whitby Gazette.
It will return "snippets" from the original articles. Without a subscription you can't see the original but the "snippet" will give you a flavour of what was going on.
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Lythe PRT by Michael HANSELL -
Marriage 11 Nov 1728 William LINTON bac & Mary SAUNDERSON sp
burial 15 Oct 1736 William son of William LINTON of East Row.
burial 4 Jan 1750/51 Mary d William LINTON of East Row p Whitby
burial 11 Jan 1760 Mary wf William LINTON of East Row p Whitby
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Thanks very much everyone for your replies, more than I expected and very helpful - and thank you especially Spelk for the lookup, can I ask which records were checked - did it cover all the Lythe parish records between [certain years]?
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Production of alum needed coal & great quantities of urine! ;D
Bests,
Skoosh.
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I checked the records as transcribed by Mike HANSELL and published (in two volumes) by the Yorkshire Archaeological Society and issued to subscribers in 1973. The years covered are 1619 to 1837. Some but not many gaps.
The same information for the marriage (and I assume the burials), with views of images of the original Parish Record and Bishop's Transcripts, can be found on FindMyPast. I have not checked to see what is available on Familysearch or Ancestry or MyHeritage.
The BT record for the marriage has the Bride's name as Eliza (rather than Mary) though the image shows "Eliza" scored through so someone at some point has realised the error.
Interesting that the Lythe records show the burials of three children but not their baptisms. Might be that they were baptised but the records are part of the Whitby Parish. Also possible that the family were Roman Catholics and baptised in secret. Though you could illegally baptise a child and leave no record now available; when it came to burials you had to use the local Anglican churchyard. There were lots of Roman Catholics in the area.
The four records I found are the only ones showing a William LINTON there are a few dozen other mentions of people called LINTON (and some called FLINTON). They start in the 1600s and are missing after about the middle of the 1700s.
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Whitby records for William LINTON
Bap. 17 Aug 1729 Barbara & Elizabeth twins William LINTON of Whitby.
Noticed in Findmypast a record for the burial in Lythe of William LINTON age 85. Labourer on 27 March 1785. Checking the printed PRT I see it there. Just shows that letting the computer do a search of an electronic document can lead to data being missed. I have checked the index to the printed documents and I’ve not missed any more.
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Spelk,
Thank you so much - very clear and thorough. That's a gem of information about the Catholics as well!
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Production of alum needed coal & great quantities of urine! ;D
Bests,
Skoosh.
People say a lot of things about my family but this just takes the, er ... .
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I've had this recommended to me: http://archiveshop.northyorks.gov.uk/books/NYCROP15.html
Here's the blurb from that link:
"To Escape the Monster's Clutches: notes and documents illustrating the preparations in North Yorkshire to repel the invasion threatened by the French in 1793, compiled by M.Y.Ashcroft
This book focuses on the involvement of the civilian population in the effort to defend the North Riding against the French. It demonstrates the response of one county to official government directives, propaganda and rumour, and reveals the slow movement of government policy from vague appeals for patriotic volunteers to a system of forced recruitment."
I've been told that the book covers recruitment and how it affected farming families in particular.
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Your opening post mention "Linton, Stonehouse, Graham" and "labourer, brewer and roper".
Did Henry Linton, brewer, East Row figure amongst these?
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Your opening post mention "Linton, Stonehouse, Graham" and "labourer, brewer and roper".
Did Henry Linton, brewer, East Row figure amongst these?
No, but surely a relative.
MARRIAGE
Lythe, 1728 Nov 11
William Linton, labourer
Mary Saunderson
BAPTISMS
Whitby, 1731 May 02
Ann dau of William Linton, East Row
Whitby, 1733 Nov 04
Ann dau of William Linton, East Row
MARRIAGE
Whitby, St Mary the Virgin, 1761 Dec 29
Peter Stonehouse, brewer, of this parish
Ann Linton, of this parish
witnesses Barbara Linton, Richard Jackson
BAPTISMS
Whitby, 1762 Jun 26
born May 23 last (does this mean May 1762?)
Mary dau of Peter Stonehouse, labourer, East Row
Whitby, 1765 Jul 14
6 weeks old
Ann dau of Peter Stonehouse, labourer, Sands End
MARRIAGE
Whitby, St Mary the Virgin, 1782 Apr 28
James Graham, roper, of this parish
Mary Stonehouse, of this parish
witnesses Ann Stonehouse, John Clark
BAPTISMS
Whitby, 1784 Dec 23
Mary dau of James Grayham and Mary
Whitby, 1787 Apr 05
Hannah dau of James Grayham and Mary
Whitby, 1791 Jan 03
Martha dau of James Graham and Mary
Whitby, 1792 Mar 11
born 1791 Dec 29
Martha dau of James Graham and Mary, roper, Whitby
MARRIAGE
Northumberland, Bedlington, 1821 Jun 16
Thomas Parker
Martha Graham
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The Cleveland FHS have transcribed the MIs for Lythe St Oswalds and a copy can be obtained from their web site for £2.95.
https://clevelandfhs.org.uk
Probate records at the Borthwick for people called LINTON near Whitby:-
Ann LINTON April 1846 vol 213B f. of East Row P. Whitby Admon £450
Elizabeth LINTON June 1836 vol 193 f. of East Row P. Whitby Admon £800
Henry LINTON Sep. 1761 vol. 105 f.174 of Lyth Will
Henry LINTON Dec. 1814 vol 158 f.547 of P. Whitby Will £7500 - DDR (Death Duty Register) says the executor was John LINTON of East Row, Whitby.
John LINTON July 1770 vol. 114 f.148 of Ugthorpe P. Lythe, Gent. Will
John LINTON June 1777 vol.121 f. of Ugthorpe P. Lyth Admon
John LINTON Nov. 1783 vol.127 f.501 of Ellerby P. Lyth Will
John LINTON Dec. 1828 vol.178 f.390 the Elder of East Row P. Whitby Will £2000.
John LINTON July 1839 vol.200 f.81 of East Row P. Whitby Will. - DDR adds his abode was East Row Newholm and Executor was Mary WATSON of same place.
John LINTON July 1847 vol.217 f.41 of Ugthorpe P. Lyth Will £450. DDR adds Executor was Matthew LINTON of same place.
Matthew LINTON 28 Nov 1711 of Lyth Admon.
Matthew LINTON June 1777 vol.121 f. of Lyth Admon
Matthew LINTON June 1834 vol.189 f. 64 of Ugthorpe P. Lythe Will £200
Before spending money on any of the Wills or Admons (Administrations) check to see if abstracts of the Wills can be found in Dave KING's site - http://www.davekinggenealogy.co.uk. Some of them are.
Note that Admons usually contain little information; just a note of who the Executor was. Though I do have one which listed all the children and said that three of them had emigrated to America.
If you can get to York then you can download images of the Probate records to a USB stick for free. Otherwise order from -
https://www.york.ac.uk/borthwick/remote-services/copying/order-form/
PS - and the name LINTON is mentioned a couple of times on this web page about Wills -
http://www.hoggarth.co.uk/wills.htm
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Hi Brooksbum,
I am also a Linton descendent from Lythe, which is the next village along from Sandsend,this part of my family tree is not hosted anywhere online yet (im migrating my tree to wikitree currently. However my oldest Linton is James Linton b.abt 1697 poss Lythe, Whitby d.1784 Lythe who was married to Jane Wilson and had 9 children. If you would like to collaborate fell free to message me through roots chat or through my family history homepage at https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Round-218
kind regards
Paula