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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Louth => Topic started by: MOCHARA1329 on Thursday 03 June 21 14:24 BST (UK)
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Just realised that I have been researching the wrong James O'Hanlon :o
My James married Anne Hanratty dont know where cant find the marriage anywhere, had a son James born in Armagh in 1864 but rest of children all 9 of them born and lived in Dundalk, I know this information is correct just trying to find where my James was born or where he married Anne or where she was born.
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You don’t give any dates other than James’ birth.
Do you have the family in censuses?
I can see baptisms for children to James O’Hanlon and Ann Hanratty but they range from 1848.
Here is Bridget born 1865
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1865/03554/2308616.pdf
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My Bridget was born in 1872 siblings are
James , Thomas, Edward, Bernard, Joseph.
Anne, Elizabeth,
I believe they lived in Bridge St Dundalk
I know there are others with same names as James O'Hanlon & Anne Hanratty who also had children similar to mine O'Hanlon family which makes it hard except I know James the father was a locksmith
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So this is your Bridget
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1872/03263/2195968.pdf
Is this Bernard in 1882?
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1882/02784/2021972.pdf
Is James b 1864, the oldest child?
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Do you have James’ birth in 1864?
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yes that's Bridget and one of her brothers
I believe James was the oldest but I could not locate his birth cert in Armagh were he supposedly was born, know that he married in Scotland but again came back to live in Dundalk where he died in 1949 aged 85 yrs. old
Thank you for your replies
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Do his parents names come from his marriage details?
Do you have him anywhere with those siblings to show the relationship?
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More baptisms:
Cath O’Hanlon 22 December 1861, Dundalk - address Bridge Street parents James and Ann Hanratty
Pat O’ Hanlon 12 January 1863 - details as above
Mary, March 1865 - baptism has mother as Mary Hanratty but civil birth shows Ann.
Your James would be between Pat and Mary
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Yes, James married in Scotland said born in Armagh also confirmed this by the census taken in Ireland 1901, father James O'Hanlon a locksmith and mother Anne Hanratty.
I know for sure that he had sisters Bridget my g/grandmother, sister Anne, and Elizabeth and his brothers Edward and Thomas and brother Bernard and Joseph, all living in shields court Dundalk
yes newspaper article regarding the son James whose son was killed in 1921 and a will left by his daughter naming my Bridget's son my grandfather and Anne's son in a will.
Think they had a sister Mary killed in a house fire in Belfast in 1918, maybe a brother called Patrick, Just cannot find anything on the parents marriage or births
Thanks so much for your replies
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There are Hanratty sponsors for some baptisms, if I recall. They might help to find Anne’s family.
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Yes I did see that, thank you again for your help
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Back to this again I have tried all routes to finding a marriage for James O'Hanlon and Anne Hanratty, who had 9/10 children all in Dundalk but no marriage even tried other countries but nothing, I m beginning g to think maybe they weren't married but then I can't see the RC Church baptising all these children whom I have lots of info on any tips we would be appreciated as these two seem to be elusive
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Have you checked for a marriage in church records as well as the civil registrations? occasionally clergy didn't submit the records for a particular quarter. If they did marry before 1864 in a Catholic ceremony the only record will be from the church as civil registrations of Catholic marriages didn't start until 1864.
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Yes as already tried that as well as churches in different countries Scotland ,Engkand etc but it only draws a blank unfortunately, thank as for replying
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Earlier known child bapt. Dec.1861 in Dundalk. IF the parents were married there the only place RC marriages seem to be available online is a pay site- scroll down to bottom of list-
https://www.johngrenham.com/records/rc_church.php?churchid=0216&parish=Dundalk
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Thank you, the parents were not married st St Patrick's I spoke in person to the guy in charge of records,although all 10 children were baptised there nothing on the parents unfortunately, he said try Drogheda which I did and no marriage,