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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Antrim => Topic started by: allister1964 on Sunday 30 May 21 23:36 BST (UK)
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John was a distant relative of mine. They had nine children: John (b: 1871) ; William (b: 1872) ; Mary Anne (b: 1874) married David McCartney ; Jane Moffett (b: 1876) married Robert McMurtry ; Bryson (b: 1880) who may have married Jemima Baird in 1932 ; Thomas (b: 1884) ; James (b: 1887) ; Ida (b: 1890) and Robert Henry (b: 1892).
As this is all I know, I was hoping that there may be some living descendants of the above family, in fact I have been told, there was a John Wilson (b: c1934) residing at Orlands Mill farm about 2015. If anyone can be of assistance, It would be much appreciated.
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Do you know if the gentleman b.c1934 is deceased? He could possibly still be alive (we aren't allowed to post details of living, or possibly living, people). If still alive you will need to edit and remove his name.
Linking to the Wilsons in the 1901 census, for others-
Residents of a house 57 in North East Division (Carrickfergus Rural, Antrim).
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/Carrickfergus_Rural/North_East_Division/991848/
KG
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Bryson (b: 1880) who may have married Jemima Baird in 1932
Wilson Bryson of "Orlands Mill" Eden Carrickfergus county Antrim farmer died 12 December 1952 Administration Belfast 27 January to Jemima Wilson the widow. Effects £1528 15s. 6d.
Probate of the Will of John Wilson late of Orlands Mill, Carrickfergus, County Antrim, farmer, who died 15 November 1917 granted at Belfast to Bryson Wilson and Robert Henry Wilson, Orlands Mill, Carrickfergus, County Antrim, farmers. Effects: £895 14s 6d.
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In 1911 census
Residents of a house 27 in North East Division (Eden, Antrim).
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/Eden/North_East_Division/193187/
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai001554194/
North East Division in Carrickfergus.
https://www.townlands.ie/antrim/carrickfergus-or-st-nicholas/carrickfergus/north-east-division/
KG
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Jane Moffett (b: 1876) married Robert McMurtry
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1907/10096/5673231.pdf
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/Templecorran/Kilroot/188683/
Robert (1908)-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1908/01648/1658167.pdf
Jane Mooney (1909)- father Robert Colville Wilson-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1909/01606/1644802.pdf
Annie Bryson (1912)-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1912/01505/1611392.pdf
Matthew (1915)-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1915/01363/1561968.pdf
Possibly Jane's husband-
McMurtry Robert of Fort Road Kilroot county Antrim farmer died 27 January 1947 Probate Belfast 26 June to Robert McMurtry farmer. Effects £2352 16s. 9d.
Warning- there's another Robert McMurtry with wife Jane Wilson living in Belfast and having children during the same period.
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1911 census says 9 children but only 4 living. If you are trying to trace descendants then finding deaths for the 5 deceased children should establish if they married and had family before they died.
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I think Annie Bryson was the third child of Robert Bryson (c. 1799-6 Jun 1859) and Mary _ (c. 1799-22 Aug 1869), his second wife. The other children were Surgeon Major Allen Bryson (11 Dec 1832-6 Jun 1869) who died at sea on board the 'Indus' and who left his life-savings to the General Hospital Belfast (later the Royal Victoria Hospital) where there is a plaque in his honour but with a misspelling ('Allan') of his surname; Margaret Bryson (-1879); and Thomas Bryson.
By his first wife Robert had a son Samuel who moved to Canada and married Ann Hoy (1831-1989) a neighbour from home whom he met accidentally on a pier when she and her family arrived in Canada some years later.
Robert was the eldest child of James Bryson (c. 1770-20 Nov 1822) and Sarah Allen (c. 1781-12 Apr 1864), the other children being Margaret Bryson (c. 1805-18 Apr 1873) whose husband was Thomas Stratford Stephens (c. 1799-24 Jan 1848); and William Bryson (-1871) whose wife was Mary - (c. 1815-3 Oct 1903).
Sarah Allen was the daughter of Robert Allen (c. 1744-10 Oct 1830) and an unknown wife.
I met a John Wilson from the Beltoy Road quite a number of years ago and he indicated that we were related but I regret that I did not follow that up.
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....and William Bryson (-1871) whose wife was Mary - (c. 1815-3 Oct 1903).
Some links-
William Bryson from West Division at Carrickfergus.
Death 20 June 1871 aged 68 yrs.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1871/020768/7285658.pdf
Mary Ann Bryson
Death 4 October 1903 aged 87 yrs at West Division. Informant her daughter Lizzie Bryson.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1903/05649/4590140.pdf
1901 census for Bryson.
House 122 in West Division (Carrickfergus Rural, Antrim).
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/Carrickfergus_Rural/West_Division/992078/
West Division townland
https://www.townlands.ie/antrim/carrickfergus-or-st-nicholas/carrickfergus/carrickfergus/west-division/
https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/4480740#map=12/54.7054/-5.8636
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Thanks for the reply.
3 Oct 1903 is the date of death for Mary Bryson said to be on the Bryson gravestone in Kilroot graveyard. This is from Gravestone Inscriptions of co. Antrim, vol 2, page 49, from the Ulster Historical Foundation.
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I think Annie Bryson was the third child of Robert Bryson (c. 1799-6 Jun 1859) and Mary _ (c. 1799-22 Aug 1869), his second wife.
Annie Bryson who married John Wilson was daughter of William Bryson of West Division:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1870/11382/8178994.pdf
His will (PRONI will calendar) refers to his daughter “Annie Wilson otherwise Bryson”. So I guess Annie was niece of Robert Bryson (c1799-1859)?
Robert was the eldest child of James Bryson (c. 1770-20 Nov 1822) and Sarah Allen (c. 1781-12 Apr 1864), the other children being Margaret Bryson (c. 1805-18 Apr 1873) whose husband was Thomas Stratford Stephens (c. 1799-24 Jan 1848); and William Bryson (-1871) whose wife was Mary - (c. 1815-3 Oct 1903).
James Bryson died on 20th Nov 1832 going by his headstone (I have a photo), though this probate record says 20th Sep 1833 (unlikely to be correct):
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-C39M-B9Z4-1?i=227&cat=234514
Apart from the fact they’re all buried in the same or adjacent plots, do you have any other evidence to show Robert Bryson (c1799-1859) and William Bryson (c1803-1871) were children of James and Sarah?
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Hello, my name is Catherine Wilson the John Wilson you are talking about is my late grandfather I have researched my family history and Annie and John would be my x2 great grandparents.
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Hi Catherine. Your 3x great grandfather built the building I grew up in. Allister is still active, so hopefully he'll see your message.
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Hello Catherine, How exactly are you descended from John and Annie? Your help would be much appreciated as I'm attempting to update my very large family tree.
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Welcome to RootsChat, Catherine (Cwilson18) :)
...my name is Catherine Wilson the John Wilson you are talking about is my late grandfather I have researched my family history and Annie and John would be my x2 great grandparents.
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