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Title: PEMBRICK of Hanley?
Post by: Rod Blackshaw on Saturday 22 May 21 15:54 BST (UK)
Has anyone come across the Pembrick name at all? I am trying to find anything about Margaret PEMBRICK (born ca. 1863, died 1931) who, according to the 1901 and 1911 census records was born in Hanley.  By 1884 she was in Garston, Lancs. where she had an illegitimate son - or at least that is where his birthplace is given on census forms. She married William BLACKSHAW in Wilmslow, Cheshire in 1893 and her first-born son became William Henry BLACKSHAW. Her father was listed as Thomas PEMBRICK (deceased) on the marriage certificate.

That is the only information I have on her so any help would be appreciated. 
 
Title: Re: PEMBRICK of Hanley?
Post by: trish1120 on Saturday 22 May 21 16:36 BST (UK)
I'v been looking at Census for about an hour and cant see her pre Marriage.

But Martha and Fred Blackshaws Birth Regs GRO have mothers maiden name as Bembrick.

Will see if I can find anything more.

Trish :)
Title: Re: PEMBRICK of Hanley?
Post by: BumbleB on Saturday 22 May 21 16:39 BST (UK)
Via FreeBMD there are no Pembrick birth registrations between January 1883 and December 1885  :-\

Added:

Nor, following Trish's post, any birth registrations for Bembrick.

Title: Re: PEMBRICK of Hanley?
Post by: trish1120 on Saturday 22 May 21 16:41 BST (UK)
BENBRICK, WILLIAM       - 
GRO Reference: 1885  S Quarter in WEST DERBY  Volume 08B  Page 475
Title: Re: PEMBRICK of Hanley?
Post by: BumbleB on Saturday 22 May 21 16:42 BST (UK)
Well done!
Title: Re: PEMBRICK of Hanley?
Post by: trish1120 on Saturday 22 May 21 16:43 BST (UK)
It was a fluke ;D

May have to give up on this soon as its late here!
Title: Re: PEMBRICK of Hanley?
Post by: rosie99 on Saturday 22 May 21 16:50 BST (UK)
Well done Trish  ;D

She married William BLACKSHAW in Wilmslow, Cheshire in 1893 and her first-born son became William Henry BLACKSHAW.

They were living as a family in 1891
RG12/2820 Folio 59 Page 5
Margarets place of birth was stated to be Garston
Title: Re: PEMBRICK of Hanley?
Post by: trish1120 on Saturday 22 May 21 16:55 BST (UK)
So maybe?

BAMBRICK, MARGARET  mmn     ROSSITER 
GRO Reference: 1864  S Quarter in WEST DERBY AND TOXTETH PARK  Volume 08B  Page 295
Title: Re: PEMBRICK of Hanley?
Post by: Kay99 on Saturday 22 May 21 17:08 BST (UK)
So maybe?

BAMBRICK, MARGARET  mmn     ROSSITER 
GRO Reference: 1864  S Quarter in WEST DERBY AND TOXTETH PARK  Volume 08B  Page 295

This looks like the baptism
 Margarita Bambrick
Birth Date:    14 Jul 1864
Baptism:    24 Jul 1864:    St Patrick, Liverpool,
Father:    Edvardi Bambrick
Mother:    Margaritae Rosseter
Title: Re: PEMBRICK of Hanley?
Post by: trish1120 on Saturday 22 May 21 17:15 BST (UK)
Thanks Kay99.
So not her then.

Night all :)
Title: Re: PEMBRICK of Hanley?
Post by: Capetown on Saturday 22 May 21 17:20 BST (UK)
? As this is in Staffordshire


GRO INDEX

BAMRICK Margaret - mother's maiden name O'Neil

GRO Reference: 1861 J Quarter - Wolstanton, Volume 06B - Page 80
Title: Re: PEMBRICK of Hanley?
Post by: Kay99 on Saturday 22 May 21 17:32 BST (UK)
Possible sister??

BAMRICK, CATHERINE    mmn    ONEIL     
GRO Ref: 1864  M Quarter WEST DERBY AND TOXTETH PARK  Vol 08B  Page 289
Title: Re: PEMBRICK of Hanley?
Post by: Capetown on Saturday 22 May 21 17:39 BST (UK)
Using Family Search - and seeing Margaret's son was born in Garston, Lancashire (although Margaret gives her father's name as Thomas) - there is may be of help.

1871 Census, Garston, Lancashire, England

BAMBRICK

William - 35 - born Ireland Queen County
Mary - 25 - born Liverpool
Thomas - 14 - born Newcastle, Staffordshire
Cisy - daughter - 12 - born Newcastle, Staffordshire
Maggy - 10 - born Newcastle, Staffordshire
Catherine - 5 - born Liverpool
Ann - 2 - born Liverpool
Mary - 0  born Garston, Lancashire
Title: Re: PEMBRICK of Hanley?
Post by: Capetown on Saturday 22 May 21 17:55 BST (UK)
Ancestry 1861 Census,

Civil Parish KNUTTON,
Ecclesiatical Parish: Silverdale, Staffordshiref

(transribed as: BRAMBOIE)

Patrick - 29 - born Arles, Ireland
Maria - born Keeloge Ireland
Thomas - 2 - born Newcastle, Staffordshire
Elizabeth - 1 - born Newcastle, Staffordshire


(just wonder if these are relatives)
Title: Re: PEMBRICK of Hanley?
Post by: Kay99 on Saturday 22 May 21 19:37 BST (UK)
I think that Maria in the 1861 possibly died in 1865

BAMRICK, MARIA        34 
GRO Ref: 1865  Dec Quarter  WEST DERBY AND TOXTETH PARK  Volume 08B  Page 349

Just wondered whether the 1861 and 1871 families that Capetown posted might be the same if the fathers first name was a error one of the census years??  In 1861 the surname looks like Brambric and is transcribed as this on F M P.    Maria died in 1865 and I think the younger children in 1871 have the mothers maiden name O*Hara as below from a possible second marriage  :-\ 

BEMBRICK, ANNIE   mmn     OHARA     
GRO Ref 1868  D Quarter WEST DERBY AND TOXTETH PARK  Volume 08B  Page 262

Kay

Added just came across this bapt for daughter Catherine who is shown on the 1871 census - lists his father as Patrick

Catharina Bambrick
Birth Date:    17 Oct 1863
Baptism Date:    27 Oct 1863    St Patrick, Liverpool
Father:    Patritii Bambrick
Mother:    Maria Neile

Death of Patrick?? 
 BAIMBRICK, PATRICK        45 
GRO Ref: 1880  D Quarter WEST DERBY AND TOXTETH PARK  Volume 08B  Page 276

Can't see the family in census years post 1871
Title: Re: PEMBRICK of Hanley?
Post by: Rod Blackshaw on Wednesday 26 May 21 18:25 BST (UK)
Hi everyone.

Thanks for the sterling efforts so far. I have delved into the Garston family Capetown found in the 1871 census. The only one I think I have possibly found is Catherine - there's a Kate Banbrick, age 18 and described as a charwoman lodging at 27 Raglan St, Garston in the 1881 census. It may be the right family though 'my' Margaret's father is described as a general labourer on her wedding certificate whereas William Banbrick was working as a puddler in the iron works in 1871.

And thanks also to Rosie99 for pointing out that I had completely missed Margaret and William Blackshaw living together in 1891 before the marriage and, presumably, the relationship would predate the census date.

William Blackshaw is also absent from the 1881 census but he was a gunner in the Royal Artillery at the time and this is yet another avenue to pursue for a possible explanation as to how he and Margaret met.

In case you are interested in putting a face to a name, I have attached a photo of Margaret.
Title: Re: PEMBRICK of Hanley?
Post by: trish1120 on Thursday 27 May 21 10:22 BST (UK)
How lovely. The photo brings her to life for us :)