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Can anyone help me prove that George William McCann was the father of a James McCann.
James was born in 1887, I believe in Norfolk. He married a Selina e Rogers in 1932 in Erpington Norfolk. They had a daughter Joan M McCann who was born in 1935 Erpingham. Although I have found a family tree that shows George is his father and an Agnes Tungate is his mother I can find no proof from census or bmd records. i would appreciate any help.
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Have you got the marriage certificate?
Did James and Selina stay together?
Selina E. McCann/Selina E. Rogers married Walter Jeary, March qtr 1952, North Walsham
Death in North Walsham, October 1993
Selina Elizabeth Jeary
d-o-b 13 Oct 1904
James and Selina McCann and children can be found in the free index to the 1939 Register at 26 Fir Hill Cottage, Erpingham R.D.
More McCann-Rogers births during the war.
Another James McCann marriage in North Walsham, early in 1940, to Dorothy M. Farrow
Any connection between the two James?
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Thisre is some duplication of Jonw post.
No GRO index for James in Norfolk, others elsewhere but not with the mothers maiden name mentioned.
How do you know he was born in 1887, this would mean he was 45 when he married?
The had three children in Erpingham and they may have moved to N Walsham there were four more MMN Rogers, the last being 1948.
Do you know hen James died?
Colin
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As far as I have been able to find out
Joan McCann was born in 1935 and her parents were definitely a James McCann and Selina Rogers. The 1939 Census shows their birth dates as :
James 16th March 1887
Selina 11th October 1901
So yes he was a lot older than her. it would appear James must have died before 1952 when Selina married Walter Jeary.
Unfortunately I do not have the marriage certificate for Selina and James which of course will show me the name of his father. That I think is my next port of call
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Index to England & Wales, Electoral Registers 1920-1932, has a George McCann in Northrepps.
McCann was not a common name in Norfolk!
George possibly living near to Selina Elizabeth Rogers, who was also in Northrepps.
Don't have any more info though.
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George William Cann married Agnes Tungate in 1890 in Lingwood, Norfolk
George 22 bachelor father John and Agnes 24 spinster father Robert
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1891 census for them but no James?
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:4W6M-VW2
Colin
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Unfortunately I think the family tree where I found this information must be incorrect especially as there was no substantial evidence to prove George was James' father.
Thanks for everyone's help, I will send for the marriage cert tomorrow.
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Good luck!
Let us know how you get on.
John
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I have the marriage certificate and it definitely says George McCann was the father of James McCann
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What was the fathers occupation ?
Also is it McCann or Cann
Who were the witnesses?
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The George Cann who married Agnes Tungate 1890 had children:-
Eva Louise 1893
Agnes Harriet 1893
Thomas 1897
Ethel 1899
Kate 1900 - 1901
William Arthur 1901
John 1904
No James!!
The above information matches that of the 1911 census for George and Agnes.
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The marriage certificate shows George McCann as James's father and was a Farm labourer. James's age is shown as 39 and the marriage date was 1932 making his year of birth 1893, whereas Selina was 29 making her date of birth 1903. the two witnesses were E Rogers and R W Rogers.
At the time of the marriage James lived at Katherin Cottages , Sidestrand and Selina lived at Frog's Hall Northrepps.
It would appear that James disappeared from the time he was born until 1932 when he married.
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Have you found him in 1921 census? or Selina
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Selina Elizabeth Rogers was born 1904 to William Rogers and Hannah Elizabeth Abel.
1901 Hannah Rogers nee Abel is with her parents as William was in the Royal Navy.
They married 4 June 1899 at Cromer. William was of Southrepps.
1911 married 12 years 4 children 3 living 1 deceased.
Selina Elizabeth 1904
Gladys Lavinia 1906 buried 7 March 1906 at Southrepps Norfolk
William Robert 1908
Elsie Louisa 1911