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Old Photographs, Recognition, Handwriting Deciphering => Free Photo Restoration & Date Old Photographs => Topic started by: flyderaght on Sunday 16 May 21 20:03 BST (UK)
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This is My Grgr grandfather John McIntyre at his home on the Holy Isle off of Arran. I have had the original scanned and redone. I am curious as to who the others are in the picture. I believe the young women seated on the right are his daughters. If I am correct the gentleman next to him may be a boarder that lived there. I suspect that it dates to late 1880s early 1890s.
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I wonder if this is the family?
1881 Holy Isle House
John McIntyre Married 52 1829 Farmer Of 40 Acres Of Which 20 Arable, INGERARY, Argyllshire
Janet McIntyre Wife Married 50 1831 Farmers Wife OCHILTREE, Ayrshire
Janie McIntyre Daughter Unmarried 20 1861 Farmers Dour Kilbride, Buteshire,
William McIntyre Son Unmarried 15 1866 Farmers Son Kilbride, Buteshire,
John McIntyre Son Unmarried 13 1868 Scholar Kilbride, Buteshire
Violet McIntyre Daughter - 10 1871 Scholar Kilbride, Buteshire,
Mary G McIntyre Daughter - 7 1874 Scholar Kilbride, Buteshire,
Anna A McIntyre Daughter - 4 1877 - Kilbride, Buteshire
Maria H McIntyre Daughter - 2 1879 - Kilbride, Buteshire
Colin
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Hi there. yes, that is the family. I am trying to date the picture. John McIntyre is my gr gr grandfather. I have an idea as to when as I confirmed one of the people I think last night. The older gentleman standing next to John. There was a boarder in his 80s living there in 1891. I think it may be him.
Marc
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As far as I can see of the ladies dresses, it could well be 1880s.
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John McIntyre, farmer of Holy Isle, was alive in January 1908 as he is mentioned here:
https://www.threetowners.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=11281&p=173164&hilit=Holy+Isle#p173164
Further, there is an image of the Isle here which, at distance, depicts the farmhouse:
https://www.threetowners.net/forum/search.php?keywords=Holy+Isle
Referring to the Census posted by Colin, I originally thought "Kilbride" to be "West Kilbride" on the mainland opposite Arran, until I located the following:
QUOTE William Taylor McIntyre, a private with the, 9th (Service) Bn Black Watch (Royal Highlanders), who was born in Kilbride, Brodick, but enlisted in Ardrossan, died today on the Western Front. The son of William and Catherine McIntyre, 8 Douglas Row, Brodick, he entered the theatre of war on July 14, 1915 and was awarded the 1914-1915 Star, British War Medal and Victory Medal. He is buried in Philosophe British Cemetery, Mazingarbe and he is commemorated on Brodick War Memorial and Ardrossan War Memorial. END QUOTE.
It may be this "Kilbride" is the name of a cottage located in the village of Brodick, Arran.
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Actually the John McIntyre in that story is my gr grandfather. His father John passed 1904. Neat story. John came to Canada about a year later. He did make a couple of trips back to Scotland and then when his wife came to Canada in the early 30s he and his son had bought ranchland in Saskatchewan. He and his wife returned to arran post 2nd world war.
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Apologies, my mistake regarding "Kilbride". Arran is divided into two parishes, Kilmory Parish which covers the west side and Kilbride Parish the east.
This website may be of interest to you https://www.arranmuseum.co.uk/research/genealogy/
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I have been back and forth with the museum and they have been an immense help over time. I was not aware of the William Taylor McIntyre and his circumstances. There were a handful of them that served in WW1. His cousin Archie( James M) also served in WW1. Archies younger brother served in WW2 and was imprisoned by the Japanese and was part of the group that the bridge over the river Kwai was based on. He is buried in Thailand.
Many thanks for the info everyone.
Marc
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The older gentleman standing next to John. There was a boarder in his 80s living there in 1891. I think it may be him.
Marc
I note the 1891 census on SP but I cannot find it on family search and my Ancestry membership has expired. The 1891 census may show the above gentleman and others. Have you found that census?
Colin
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Hi Colin. Many thanks for the responses. I do believe the older gentleman in the picture adjacent to John McIntyre is indeed that person in the census, Thomas Moore. He is not related as far as I know. I am hoping the museum can answer the question. I believe the heavy-set lady to the right in black is William McIntyre's wife based on a picture I have seen recently.
cheers, Marc
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I note that Thomas Moore was indeed with the family in 1891.
MCINTYRE JOHN 1891 M 62 553/2 1/ 12 Kilbride Bute
MOORE THOMAS 1891 M 82 553/2 1/ 12 Kilbride Bute
There are two Thomas Moore’s on the 1881 census, one in Fife, the other below, which may be connected to John McIntyre’s wife?
1881 Dwelling: St Cuthbert Cottage, Sorn, Ayrshire
Thomas MOORE Head M 75 M Bleacher In Bleaching Works Sorn, Ayr, Scotland
Elizabeth MOORE Wife M 65 F Muirkirk, Ayr, Scotland
MOORE ELIZABETH 66 Mmn MCCRONE 1882 death Sorn
Colin
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Hi Colin. Is it possible he is tied to the family? Maybe. Johns' wife, Janet- her maiden's name was Taylor.
Marc