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				*Now Completed, many thanks*
 
 Please could I request a look up to find 1901 Census details for my mum’s grandmother (for my mum who is 90)
 Her name was Violet Florence Garner, date of birth 17 September 1880, birthplace Wolverton, Bucks.
 I’d be very grateful if anyone could find her in 1901.
 If it helps, her father was William Garner, coach maker/body builder and mother was Elizabeth Emma, living in Wolverton.
 With thanks.
 KateW.
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				1901 census Midland Station Sheaf Street Sheffield Yorkshire.
 
 RG13 Piece 4368 Folio 64 Page 36
 
 Harry Burgon   34
 Emily Burgon   33
 Darel Burgon   5
 Susannah Howard   54
 Mary E Fisher   31
 Nellie Spinkins   21
 Jane A Cooke   22
 Maude Danille   20
 Edith Wright   20
 Amy Wallis   24
 Annie Simpe   24
 Violet F Garner   20 born Wilston, Berkshire. Attendant.
 Elizth Houston   27
 Mable Lomkin   25
 Mary Mason   19
 Vate Cloudertey   19
 
 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X9TZ-18S
 
 Sandra
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				She is with husband on 1939 register--just for info.
 
 Also your post heading--need to wait 900 years for that census :)
 
 John
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				Birth registered as Violetta  :)
 
 GARNER, VIOLETTA  FLORENCE     mmn AUDLEY
 GRO Reference: 1880  Dec Quarter in POTTERSPURY  Volume 03B  Page 27
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 England Select Marriages - Name:   Violet Florence Garner 1881 and aged 22 years
 
 Marriage Date 01 Aug 1903 Wolverton, Buckingham.
 Father William Garner
 Spouse Frederick Adams
 
 Sandra
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 http://www.marriage-locator.co.uk
 
 I can't get full link to attach but marriage for Violet in 1903 mentioned previous post was at St George the Martyr, Wolverton, according to Marriage Locator.
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				She is with husband on 1939 register--just for info.
 
 Also your post heading--need to wait 900 years for that census :)
 
 
 John
 
 
 Thank you John, fat fingers I think, I’ve modified the date 🙄
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 http://www.marriage-locator.co.uk
 
 I can't get full link to attach but marriage for Violet in 1903 mentioned previous post was at St George the Martyr, Wolverton, according to Marriage Locator.
 
 
 
 Thank you very much for this information.
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				1901 census Midland Station Sheaf Street Sheffield Yorkshire.
 
 RG13 Piece 4368 Folio 64 Page 36
 
 Harry Burgon   34
 Emily Burgon   33
 Darel Burgon   5
 Susannah Howard   54
 Mary E Fisher   31
 Nellie Spinkins   21
 Jane A Cooke   22
 Maude Danille   20
 Edith Wright   20
 Amy Wallis   24
 Annie Simpe   24
 Violet F Garner   20 born Wilston, Berkshire. Attendant.
 Elizth Houston   27
 Mable Lomkin   25
 Mary Mason   19
 Vate Cloudertey   19
 
 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X9TZ-18S
 
 Sandra
 
 
 Thank you Sandra.
 Is there any indication as to the address/residence? Are all these people living together?
 Violet’s family were all railway workers so it seems possible that it could be our Violet, although the birth place is wrong. Do you think Wilston, Berks and Wolverton, Bucks may have been confused in the reading?
 Thanks KateW.
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				You are welcome Kate. :)
			
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				1901 census Midland Station Sheaf Street Sheffield Yorkshire.
 
 RG13 Piece 4368 Folio 64 Page 36
 
 Harry Burgon   34
 Emily Burgon   33
 Darel Burgon   5
 Susannah Howard   54
 Mary E Fisher   31
 Nellie Spinkins   21
 Jane A Cooke   22
 Maude Danille   20
 Edith Wright   20
 Amy Wallis   24
 Annie Simpe   24
 Violet F Garner   20 born Wilston, Berkshire. Attendant.
 Elizth Houston   27
 Mable Lomkin   25
 Mary Mason   19
 Vate Cloudertey   19
 
 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X9TZ-18S
 
 Sandra
 
 
 Thank you Sandra.
 Is there any indication as to the address/residence? Are all these people living together?
 Violet’s family were all railway workers so it seems possible that it could be our Violet, although the birth place is wrong. Do you think Wilston, Berks and Wolverton, Bucks may have been confused in the reading?
 Thanks KateW.
 
 
 Places of birth can get distorted which is probably what happened here. Midland Station Sheaf Street Sheffield Yorkshire would probably be the railway station.
 
 https://www.eastmidlandsrailway.co.uk/trains-stations/at-the-station/station-facilities/shf
 
 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheffield_station
 
 Sandra
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				Birth registered as Violetta  :)
 
 GARNER, VIOLETTA  FLORENCE     mmn AUDLEY
 GRO Reference: 1880  Dec Quarter in POTTERSPURY  Volume 03B  Page 27
 
 
 Thank you for this rosie99.
 I wonder if you know what ‘mmn’ means with the name Audley? I wondered if it was ‘mother’s maiden name’. For the record, her mother’s maiden name was Case but her paternal grandmother was Audley so I’m a bit confused.
 
 Thanks for looking up the reference though.
 
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 mmn -- mothers maiden name.
 
 Sandra
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				1901 census
 The first 4 people are a separate household. Mary E Fisher/Fish on FMPast is manageress of a coffee house at Midland Station, Sheaf Street, Sheffield. Violet is a refreshment attendant. Others are attendants or servants.
 Birth place looks like Birks Wiloton
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 mmn -- mothers maiden name.
 
 Sandra
 
 
 
 Thanks Sandra
 I really am confused now.
 Violet’s mother was Elizabeth Emma Case. I have great details written in the family bible. There is her marriage to William Garner and the birth of all her eight children including Violet Florence. I’m wondering if Violet’s father William, (whose own mother was an Audley)  when registering his daughter’s birth was asked ‘Mother’s maiden name?’ and misunderstood and gave his own mother’s maiden name. A bit stupid but possible and would explain the mistake.
 Thanks I be again for your time looking for me.
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				Marriage
 1st August 1903 St George, Wolverton
 Frederick Adams 30 bachelor machinist Wolverton Robert Adams carpenter
 Violet Florence Garner 22 spinster Wolverton William Garner coach maker
 by banns
 witnesses William Jessie Brown & Emily Rachel Garner
 transcription only on FMPast
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				Marriage
 1st August 1903 St George, Wolverton
 Frederick Adams 30 bachelor machinist Wolverton Robert Adams carpenter
 Violet Florence Garner 22 spinster Wolverton William Garner coach maker
 by banns
 witnesses William Jessie Brown & Emily Rachel Garner
 transcription only on FMPast
 
 
 GARNER, EMILY  RACHEL     mmn CASE
 GRO Reference: 1882  S Quarter in POTTERSPURY  Volume 03B  Page 31
 
 Elizabeth Emma Case
 Marriage    09 Jul 1865 Liverpool, Lancaster, England
 Father:    John Case
 Spouse:    William Garner
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				Kate, I think that sounds quite plausible that there was just a misunderstanding about maiden name.  
 I can imagine it might have felt a bit stressful having to go into an 'official' environment and give information at that time and mistakes might have been more commonplace.  I think  many of the population were illiterate back then too and probably anything to do with officialdom might have felt more daunting experience for many.
 
 
 
 
 
 
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				Marriage
 1st August 1903 St George, Wolverton
 Frederick Adams 30 bachelor machinist Wolverton Robert Adams carpenter
 Violet Florence Garner 22 spinster Wolverton William Garner coach maker
 by banns
 witnesses William Jessie Brown & Emily Rachel Garner
 transcription only on FMPast
 
 Thank you very much for this information.
 Kate.
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				Kate, I think that sounds quite plausible that there was just a misunderstanding about maiden name.  
 I can imagine it might have felt a bit stressful having to go into an 'official' environment and give information at that time and mistakes might have been more commonplace.  I think  many of the population were illiterate back then too and probably anything to do with officialdom might have felt more daunting experience for many.
 
 
 I’m happy to read this, it was what I was thinking too.
 
 Thank you so much for your help.
 Kate.
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				Thank you all for your help and for taking the time to look up information for me. I’ve given mum lots to read through and she’s delighted. It’s also brought back many memories of her grandmother and great aunts.
 This is such a helpful group 👍.