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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Lancashire => Topic started by: Kath Heywood Boon on Sunday 16 May 21 15:41 BST (UK)
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I have John Heywood c1826 as the start of my family tree, and am now trying to find his father. I have a few 'hints' but cannot clarify their accuracy. He was married in 1850 at Cathedral Parish Church to Alice Heaton. How would I go about finding out who his parents were? I have had 'hints' that it could be John Heywood c1800 married to either a Martha or an Alice, or William Heywood c1794 married to Mary Maria Nayler. I don't live local, so cannot get to check things in person.
Thanks in anticipation, Kath
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The 1850 marriage has the father as John Haywood occ Maker Up
You say you have 'hints' - what website are you using
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This 1851 census entry may be worth investigating further
HO107/2225 Folio 716 Page 29
Joseph Sutton 30 1821 Bread Baker bn Cheshire
Harriet Sutton 27 bn Manchester
Sarah Allen Lodger 26 bn Cheshire
Hannah Jones Lodger 20 bn Cheshire
John Heywood Visitor Widower 53 occ Maker Up Of Work born Lancashire
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There's a baptism of a John Heywood 29th January 1826 Cathedral Church Manchester, father John Heywood occ "Maker up of Twist" and Elizabeth.
John
Rosie, I think the "hints" are from trees on Anc*--not to be trusted!!
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Previous thread
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=846990.
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Previous thread
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=846990.
I replied to that one too, So wasting our time with a duplicate post ???
I only asked where the hints were coming from as if it was Ancestry then OP could view that marriage themselves :-\
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There's a marriage of a John Heywood 3.12.1820 Cathedral Manchester. He's a bachelor and occ "Maker up of Twist, married Elizabeth Hayhurst
As well as son John, think there are 2 siblings
Ann Bancroft Heywood bap 25.12.1821--father John Maker up
Harriet bap same day as John 29.1.1826.
Harriet married as a "minor" on the 1st May1840 father John occ Maker up--looks as though father was as a witness as well.
John
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Harriet married as a "minor" on the 1st May1840 father John occ Maker up--looks as though father was as a witness as well.
John
The marriage was 1st March 1841 :)
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Harriet’s address on marriage is Carruthers Street.
The 1841 reference on other thread shows Heywoods at Garners Bldgs not far away.
The 1851 reference from other thread refers to John Heywood as a visitor.
This is to Joseph and Harriet Sutton.
1849 marriage - Harriet Beckett and Joseph Sutton are on the same page.
Harriet Heywood had married James Beckett in 1841.
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Harriet married as a "minor" on the 1st May1840 father John occ Maker up--looks as though father was as a witness as well.
John
The marriage was 1st March 1841 :)
Apologies for wrong date.
John
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No problem, John.
It’s a good find ... I think. :)
Just looked Harriet Beckett marriage up - she is a widow of 25 Carruthers Street - fits well.
Her father though John Haywood is described as a Book keeper :-\
Apologies Rosie - I was flicking between this thread and the old one. You have put the 1851 info on here too.
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Possible baptism of John Heywood 2nd October 1796 Cathedral Manchester. Parents John Heywood and Mary. John was aged 53 on 1851 census.
Marriage of his parents 2nd April 1794 John Heywood (occ Druggist) and Mary Bancroft There's a marriage bond dated 31st March 1794 stating John was of Manchester aged 22 Bachelor and Mary aged 18 spinster with the consent of her father Willaim Bancroft
Possibly Ann Bancroft Heywood 1821 daughter of John Heywood and Elizabeth Hayhurst named after his mother
John
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Sounds good. :)
I looked for Ann later but I can’t find anything. Perhaps she died in childhood.
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England & Wales, Non-Conformist and Non-Parochial Registers, 1567-1936 for Mary Bancroft
Baptism
5 May 1776 Stockport, Cheshire, England Parents William & Anne.
Should have noted earlier on marriage bond and actual marriage Mary was of the parish of Stockport.
John
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Hi, thanks for getting this information. I think sometimes the problem with me checking this particular name, is that sometimes it is spelled Heywood and sometimes Haywood. I have been tending not to look too much into the Haywood information and that could be my downfall. My father always pronounced his surname with an 'E' and with me being brought up in Northumberland, we always tended to say Heywood - as in Lancashire. Is there a site that you know of where I can check baptisms, etc to see if I can get any further? The John that rosie99 found on the 1851 census would make him born about 1796, which is close to the age I have for the John (c1800) I have found who was married to Alice Greenhaugh (c1800). We have a site up here called Bishops Transcripts, Durham, which I use quite a lot for my other family, and this has copies of births, deaths and marriages from the 1700's upwards. Is there a site I can access for something similar for Lancashire? johnhood, the baptism you have 29/01/1926 is new to me. I had him down as being baptised 06/08/1826, Manchester - something else to look into. I have printed all your responses out so that I can try to check up some more.
Kath
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With regard to the pronunciation, in this area Heywood/Haywood are the same. I use the name Heywood here from the town.
It’s best to search H*ywood.
There is a site Lancashire opc https://www.lan-opc.org.uk/ but I don’t think Manchester Cathedral records are there. I have used Ancestry for those.
The 8th August 1826 baptism you might refer to was Manchester Cathedral and the parents of that John were William, a printer and Maria.
You mention that on the previous thread, where much of the information here was also given. :)
You also mentioned the John Heywood/Alice Greenaugh marriage but had found their son as unmarried.
I hope the printout helps.
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Kath reply #14
Heywood beat me to Lancashire Online Parish Clerks. We wouldn't be without it.
Frequently updated. Checked a new batch of uploads last night. Top of "What's new" list was marriage register for my grandparents church for the year they married. :) I'd already bought the certificate.
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Hi, link for the parish registers seems great. I have had a quick look at it, and saved it in my favorites. I will now go back to my tree and see what I can update from this. Shame I didn't know about it earlier as it looks as though it's just what I need.
Kath