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Title: Thomas Birtles
Post by: mrbee on Wednesday 05 May 21 20:06 BST (UK)
Please could someone help me, I've found a gravestone for a relative Isaac Findler 1805 - 1851 and his wife Mary Findler 1808 - 1835  I am puzzled why there is an inscription for a Thomas Birtles 1822 -1844 on the grave stone? Did Isaac remarry and Thomas was a stepson?
Title: Re: Thomas Birtles
Post by: QueenoftheWest on Wednesday 05 May 21 20:17 BST (UK)
Thomas died in 1844 aged 12 so he was born in 1832.

There is this marriage in 1836:

Name: Isaac Findler
Gender: Male
Marriage Date: 01 Feb 1836
Marriage Place: Stoke Upon Trent,Stafford,England
Spouse: Lucy Birtles

Queenie  :)
Title: Re: Thomas Birtles
Post by: CaroleW on Wednesday 05 May 21 20:42 BST (UK)
From Family Search

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QL3K-JG2F
Title: Re: Thomas Birtles
Post by: Capetown on Wednesday 05 May 21 21:23 BST (UK)
FreeReg
Marriage at St Peter ad Vincula

1 February 1836

Isaac FINDLER (Widower)

Lucy BIRTLES - Spinster

witness 1: George TOMKINSON
witness 2: Lettice BIRTLES

Notes:  Bride and 1st witness made their mark thus x

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Marriage at the same Church - 5 October 1841

Humphrey WEBB - full age, batchelor, occupation: Butcher
Lettice BIRTLES - full age, spinster - (both residence: Hanely)

Groom's father: George WEBB - occupation: Flint Grinder
Bride's father: James BIRTLES - occupation: Publican

witness 1 : John SALT
witness 2 : Elizabeth GOLDSTRAW
Title: Re: Thomas Birtles
Post by: Capetown on Wednesday 05 May 21 21:49 BST (UK)
Mary FINDLER died in 1835

This is the 1841 census at Burslem

Fountain Buildings

Isaac FINDLER - aged 30 - Flint Grinder
Mary - 30 (think this is LUCY)
Hannah - 10
Thomas - 9
William - 7
Thomas BIRTLES - 10

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1851 Census, Staffordshire - BURSLEM - 1f and 3 b - page 53 of 54

Ancestry has the surname: FINDLOW

Lucy - Head (says she's Wid) - 39 - at home, born Staffs, Rugeley
Thomas - 19 - son -  Nailer, born Staffs, Rugeley
Hannah - 20 - dau - Transfer Pottery - born Staffs, Tunstall
William - son 16 - bricklayer - born Staffs NORTON

(all the children's ages appear to tally)
Title: Re: Thomas Birtles
Post by: Capetown on Wednesday 05 May 21 21:56 BST (UK)
Lucy FINDLER (Lucy BIRLTES)
father: James BIRTLES

married

John COPELAND -
1860 - Bucknall Cum Bagnall, Stafford, England

Title: Re: Thomas Birtles
Post by: mrbee on Wednesday 05 May 21 22:14 BST (UK)
Thank you all for your help and explanations.