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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Down => Topic started by: mafair7 on Monday 26 April 21 12:44 BST (UK)
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I would like to know if there are shipping records of passengers who left Ireland in the mid 1800's to settle in England and if so where would I access them, I have a GGM who settled in Liverpool with 2 of her children leaving 2 behind in County Down until later, but GGF doesn't appear in any census so I am assuming that she was widowed before she left, any clue would be helpful, Thank you
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Ireland was part of the UK in the 1800s, so no records were kept of people travelling from Ireland to Scotland, England and Wales. Travelling back and forth between Ireland and Scotland was very common.
Moving from Ireland to the rest of the UK was internal migration, not immigration, so no need for documentation.
Edited to add:
See this link - https://www.irish-genealogy-toolkit.com/Irish-immigration-to-Britain.html
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There might be a burial record for your GGF. What religion were they? When was the last known child born, and when does your GGM first show up in England? And do you know what part of Co Down they were from?
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As others have said there are no records of travel between Ireland/Britain, it has never been classed as immigration ... then or now and 'mid' 1800s you can look at census records in England from 1841 and every ten years afterwards.
Liverpool was/is a port where many from the island or Ireland worked and many also settled
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Back in the day folk crossed from Antrim etc' for communion services & harvest work which later incurred settling permanently in the west of Scotland.
Skoosh.
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For County Down, rosdavies.com (http://rosdavies.com) is the place to go.
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I have a GGM who settled in Liverpool with 2 of her children leaving 2 behind in County Down until later, but GGF doesn't appear in any census so I am assuming that she was widowed before she left, any clue would be helpful, Thank you
Did census show her marital status? Unless it said she was a widow you can't assume anything. A census in England recorded only those people who were present in a household on 1 night in 10 years. An absent husband may have been working away/gone to sea/returned to Ireland for a family matter/emigrated &c.