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Title: Tyn y Cae, Rhoscolyn, Anglesey
Post by: Whiteblazes on Sunday 25 April 21 21:41 BST (UK)
Hi, can anybody help with the location of this property please.  It’s where my ancestors lived in 1841, 1861 census.  Thanks
Title: Re: Tyn y Cae, Rhoscolyn, Anglesey
Post by: trystan on Monday 26 April 21 10:16 BST (UK)
I have looked at online maps
https://maps.nls.uk/view/135190825 (from 1924).
https://maps.nls.uk/view/101604202 and https://maps.nls.uk/view/101604025 (from 1888).

I've not spotted it, but I might have missed it. Many of the houses are named, although a few are not. Can you see the names of the houses listed on the Census entries (both before, and after their names)? You might be able to find the neighbouring houses on the maps, which might help you locate Tyn y Cae.

Although, they might not have literally had neighbouring houses. The name "Tyn y Cae" means "The house in the field", but finding nearby properties would help.

Trystan





Title: Re: Tyn y Cae, Rhoscolyn, Anglesey
Post by: Whiteblazes on Monday 26 April 21 10:58 BST (UK)
Thanks for your reply Trystan.  I did come across that OS map and couldn't see it anywhere, I reckon it's no longer standing or is an old ruin in a field....many are around there, I have land in the area and never come across it.
Title: Re: Tyn y Cae, Rhoscolyn, Anglesey
Post by: trystan on Monday 26 April 21 10:59 BST (UK)
Incidentally, they could easily drop the "y" so it could be Tyn Cae. I couldn't find that either.

Yes, so looking at the census will be the way to go then now. :)

Title: Re: Tyn y Cae, Rhoscolyn, Anglesey
Post by: Whiteblazes on Monday 26 April 21 13:33 BST (UK)
Thank you  :)
Title: Re: Tyn y Cae, Rhoscolyn, Anglesey
Post by: Mabel Bagshawe on Monday 26 April 21 21:27 BST (UK)
The Historic Welsh placenames list records a field called Tyn y Cau in Rhoscolyn - too much of a coincidence? Very near the green marker is a small enclosure which could be a house site?

https://historicplacenames.rcahmw.gov.uk/placenames/recordedname/a6d928fa-4d40-4c0c-9cf4-071a79d3fbef
Title: Re: Tyn y Cae, Rhoscolyn, Anglesey
Post by: Whiteblazes on Tuesday 27 April 21 07:24 BST (UK)
The Historic Welsh placenames list records a field called Tyn y Cau in Rhoscolyn - too much of a coincidence? Very near the green marker is a small enclosure which could be a house site?

https://historicplacenames.rcahmw.gov.uk/placenames/recordedname/a6d928fa-4d40-4c0c-9cf4-071a79d3fbef

Thank you, yes I came across that one.  I’ll go exploring one day and see if I can find it, I imagine it might just be that little ruin that maybe once was a dwelling, there’s a few around there.
Title: Re: Tyn y Cae, Rhoscolyn, Anglesey
Post by: cae howell on Tuesday 27 April 21 11:36 BST (UK)
It sounds like its on the bodier estate the road go's to silver bay but then go's to the left for bryn bar which was a crossing for the mail coach and had a customs officer station there
Title: Re: Tyn y Cae, Rhoscolyn, Anglesey
Post by: Owen ap Anglesey on Tuesday 27 April 21 13:26 BST (UK)
1841 and 1851 at Tyn y Cae, Rhoscolyn lived William Edwards and his wife Catherine
Are these your ancestors ?
Title: Re: Tyn y Cae, Rhoscolyn, Anglesey
Post by: hanes teulu on Tuesday 27 April 21 13:32 BST (UK)
Welsh Tithe Maps

Map Name - Rhoscolyn
Field No - 627
Field Name - Tyn y Cae (as transcribed, but the original entry on the map reads TYNCAE")
Landowner - Mrs Eleanor Vickers
Occupier - Edwards William
Area - 3 rods 23 perches

The map shows a building (marked in red). It is immediately north of Pen-yr-allt.

Title: Re: Tyn y Cae, Rhoscolyn, Anglesey
Post by: hanes teulu on Tuesday 27 April 21 13:44 BST (UK)
https://places.library.wales

"tyn y cae" (include the "   " as part of search key) in the tithe apportionments
click on "Anglesey" (38 hits)
tab down to "No 36" and click on "View map"
 
Title: Re: Tyn y Cae, Rhoscolyn, Anglesey
Post by: Whiteblazes on Tuesday 27 April 21 13:44 BST (UK)
1841 and 1851 at Tyn y Cae, Rhoscolyn lived William Edwards and his wife Catherine
Are these your ancestors ?

Yes, 4th great grandparents on my maternal grandmothers side.  I’ve hit a wall with William Edwards though, no idea of parents, would you happen to know?
Title: Re: Tyn y Cae, Rhoscolyn, Anglesey
Post by: Whiteblazes on Tuesday 27 April 21 13:45 BST (UK)
https://places.library.wales

"tyn y cae" (include the "   " as part of search key) in the tithe apportionments
click on "Anglesey" (38 hits)
tab down to "No 36" and click on "View map"

Thank you
Title: Re: Tyn y Cae, Rhoscolyn, Anglesey
Post by: Owen ap Anglesey on Tuesday 27 April 21 14:08 BST (UK)
Hi Whiteblazes

My ancestors also come from this village, but sorry not able to help with your family.
Agree with Hanes Teulu that Tyn Y Cae is next to Pen yr Allt.
Abodes on the other side being Maesmawr and a Bodior Farm
Title: Re: Tyn y Cae, Rhoscolyn, Anglesey
Post by: Whiteblazes on Tuesday 27 April 21 17:44 BST (UK)
Hi Whiteblazes

My ancestors also come from this village, but sorry not able to help with your family.
Agree with Hanes Teulu that Tyn Y Cae is next to Pen yr Allt.
Abodes on the other side being Maesmawr and a Bodior Farm

Thank you.  My grandparents were both Owen, but nain goes back to Dolwyddelan and daid Rhoscolyn .

I’ll go for a wander when I have a chance, and see if I can locate anything in that area.  I was there not so long ago but never knew about it then.