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My ancestors Philip Pasmore and Mary Launder married in Cornwall in 1781 and his 1802 burial in Penryn, Cornwall shows he was 55 and so born c1746/7. I couldn't find a baptism in Cornwall, but there is a 1747 baptism for a Philip Pasmore in North Molton, Devon.
My Philip Pasmore in Cornwall had children whose names included Sarah, Joan and Henry. As this 1747 North Molton Philip Pasmore's parents were Henry and Sarah and he had a sister Joan, it seems this must indeed be my Philip. I have therefore starting digging around the North Molton records for Pasmores. And there are a lot of them!
I have found the original records are on findmypast but does anyone please know if a whole transcription of the parish registers exists anywhere please, as I can't find one.
I would also love to hear from anyone researching this family.
Thanks,
Jon
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Not an answer to your question, but this site may be interest to you.
https://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/NorthMolton/PassmoreFarms
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The problem with the 1747 baptism at North Molton is that there are also marriages at North Molton for Philip PASMORE in 1768 and then again as a widower in 1770 - which could be the same man.
The marriage register states that Philip was of Penryn. I think I would be looking at the PASMOREs baptising in Helston around that time as a more likely option. North Molton is over 100 miles a way.
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Not an answer to your question, but this site may be interest to you.
https://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/NorthMolton/PassmoreFarms
Yes that is indeed very interesting. Thank you for sharing that!
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The problem with the 1747 baptism at North Molton is that there are also marriages at North Molton for Philip PASMORE in 1768 and then again as a widower in 1770 - which could be the same man.
The marriage register states that Philip was of Penryn. I think I would be looking at the PASMOREs baptising in Helston around that time as a more likely option. North Molton is over 100 miles a way.
I absolutely need to look at all the Philip Pasmores but the age and family names seem to match with the North Molton Philip, but of course more research is needed.
Those two marriage signatures in North Molton for those two Philips appear to be different so not the same man. Hopefully unravelling the Pasmores in future will help!
Thanks for commenting on this situation.
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Hi Jon,
I have Phillip Passmore in my tree - he is the son of Henry Passmore and Sarah Stoneham. They married on the 25th Dec 1733 in North Molton.
I have Phillip marrying Anne Watts on the 4th Jan 1789 at North Molton.
I am certainly not an expert on these matters and am happy to be corrected.
I believe I am related to both Phillip and Anne.
Regards Dale
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Hi Jon,
I have Phillip Passmore in my tree - he is the son of Henry Passmore and Sarah Stoneham. They married on the 25th Dec 1733 in North Molton.
I have Phillip marrying Anne Watts on the 4th Jan 1789 at North Molton.
I am certainly not an expert on these matters and am happy to be corrected.
I believe I am related to both Phillip and Anne.
Regards Dale
Thanks for the reply. I have started to look at the Philip Passmores of North Molton and it doesn't seen easy to be able to unravel for certain as there are a few of them!
What were the names of the children of Phillip Passmore and Ann Watts? Did they name children Henry and/or Sarah?
The 1789 marriage shows Phillip could not sign his name. A P. Pasmore who could sign is a witness but he witnessed various other marriages so was perhaps a church official rather than an immediate relative.
In 1792 a Philip Pasmore, a widower, married Agnes Cock. He could sign.
And in 1801 a Philip Pasmore, a bachelor, married Elizabeth Slader.
So these three men are clearly 3 different Philip Pasmores.
Philip who married Elizabeth Slader had a son Philip with her in 1811 and in the 1841 census Philip senior and Philip junior are together. Philip senior died in 1843 and his age shows he was born in c1762. He is aged 79 in the 1841 census.
The baptism records for North Molton show two possible baptisms:
1. Philip Pasmore son of John and Catherine baptised 17 Dec 1760.
2. Philip Pasmore son of John and Mary baptised 10 February 1761.
So here we can see there are two Johns having children at the same time too! 😱
The Philip who married Elizabeth Slader is presumably one of these baptisms and I would rather suspect that the other is your Philip who married Ann Watts.
For the Philip baptised in 1747 to have been the man who married Ann Watts in 1789 would make him about 42 at the time.
While this is possible as the Philip who married Elizabeth Sander was about 40 at his marriage, I rather suspect yours is perhaps one of the younger Philips born in 1760 or 1761.
To unravel it, all the Philips Pasmores and their signatures on the marriage records need to be examined. And that is a bit of a task!
I hope all the above makes sense.
Please let me know your thoughts,
Jon
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Hi Jon,
What I have is Phillip Passmore bap 1747 married Anne Watts bap 1750.
One child John bap 1789 died 1790
No other children seen.
Philip Passmore bap 1760 - son of John Passmore and Catherine Luxon - married Catherine Painter 18 Jul 1784 NM
The Philip bap 1761 - may have been the son of John Passmore and Mary Bright - and married Elizabeth Slader in 1801 - maybe!
Good luck with the research,
Dale
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I have spent quite a bit of time yestersay and today looking at all the Philip Pasmores in North Molton.
I have looked at the parish registers, nearby places and the National Archives search.
It is not easy to unravel them all and I still haven't, but I am going to put in what I have found here for any future researchers.
I know there is a lot of stuff out there in family trees and other websites, but I wanted to do it all myself from scratch without other influence.
I am going to put a post in here for every Philip Pasmore connected to North Molton I have found from 1672 to 1811. Each person can be commented on individually in the future.
I would love to hear your thoughts.
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My thoughts are - that is a great idea!
I look forward to seeing what you have found.
As I said from the outset I am no expert in this area and I have, as you obviously have, seen stuff posted on various websites which is incorrect.
A fresh look at the information available is no doubt overdue. I have changed a couple of things also but won't post here until you list your findings.
Dale
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There are 19 Philip Passmore|Pasmore baptisms between 1672 and 1811 I have found who are associated with North Molton.
18 took place in North Molton and 1 in Alwington.
They are:
1. Bapt 16 Feb 1672 North Molton s/o Richard & Mary
2. Bapt 1 Nov 1702 North Molton s/o Philip & Jone
3. Bapt 8 Apr 1731 North Molton s/o Richard & Mary
4. Bapt 11 Feb 1735 North Molton s/o Philip & Elizabeth
5. Bapt 31 Aug 1742 North Molton s/o Henry & Sarah
6. Bapt 2 Sep 1747 North Molton s/o Henry & Sarah
7. Bapt 17 Dec 1760 North Molton s/o John & Catherine
8. Bapt 10 Feb 1762 North Molton s/o John & Mary (sometimes incorrectly transcribed as 1761)
9. Bapt 9 Jan 1763 Alwington s/o Richard & Susannah
10. Bapt 15 Dec 1770 North Molton s/o Philip & Diana
11. Bapt 15 Dec 1770 North Molton s/o Philip & Margaret
12. Bapt 20 Apr 1772 North Molton s/o Philip & Margaret
13. Bapt 28 Jul 1788 North Molton s/o John & Mary
14. Bapt 18 Oct 1789 North Molton s/o Philip & Dinah
15. Bapt 6 Mar 1791 North Molton s/o John & Grace
16. Bapt 6 Dec 1797 North Molton s/o William & Mary
17. Bapt 7 Nov 1798 North Molton s/o Philip & Catherine
18. Bapt 11 Oct 1801 North Molton s/o John & Grace
19. Bapt 25 Sep 1811 North Molton s/o Philip & Elizabeth
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These are marriages of Philip Pasmores who are associated with North Molton:
A. 5 May 1700 North Molton to Jone Abbot
B. 1 Feb 1723 North Molton to Elizabeth Pickard
C. 21 Mar 1764 Cutcombe, Somerset, to Joane Pasmore (bachelor - could sign)
D. 5 Jan 1768 North Molton to Diana Hulford (bachelor - could sign)
E. 9 Sep 1770 North Molton to Margaret Kingdon (widower - could sign)
F. 12 Mar 1776 Merton, Devon, to Elizabeth Broad (no marital status given - could sign)
G. 18 Jul 1784 North Molton to Catherine Painter (no marital status given - signed x)
H. 4 Feb 1785 South Molton to Mary Watkins or Willkins (no marital status given - signed x)
I. 4 Jan 1789 North Molton to Ann Watts (no marital status given - signed x)
J. 12 Nov 1792 North Molton to Elizabeth Radford (widower - could sign)
K. 17 Jul 1801 North Molton to Elizabeth Slader (bachelor - could sign)
I am doing this research to rule in or rule out my ancestor Philip Pasmore of Penryn, Cornwall (c1746/7-1802) as the one baptised in North Molton in 1747, so will also include his marriage:
X. 12 Aug 1781 St Gluvias, Cornwall, to Mary Launder (no marital status - could sign)
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My thoughts are - that is a great idea!
I look forward to seeing what you have found.
As I said from the outset I am no expert in this area and I have, as you obviously have, seen stuff posted on various websites which is incorrect.
A fresh look at the information available is no doubt overdue. I have changed a couple of things also but won't post here until you list your findings.
Dale
Dale, would you please have a look at the baptisms and marriages and let me know if you have any I have missed off.
I have looked at the burials, but just want to make sure I have not missed any baptisms or marriages off first before going into them.
I will then update with my findings on these 19 Philip Pasmores.
Thanks very much,
Jon
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Excellent work, Jon.
I don't have any extras in that time frame.
And I was able to add a couple to my list.
Dale
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Excellent work, Jon.
I don't have any extras in that time frame.
And I was able to add a couple to my list.
Dale
Thanks. I will start putting up what I have found out first hand.
Jon
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1. Bapt 16 Feb 1672 North Molton s/o Richard & Mary
This Philip Pasmore's marriage is:
A. 5 May 1700 North Molton to Jone Abbot
They had the following children: Richard 1700, Philip 1702, Joan 1703, John 1706, Robert 1708, Mary 1711 & Henry 1714.
He was the father of the Philip Pasmore I have numbered 2 and was the grandfather of the Philip Pasmores I have numbered 3, 4, 5 and 6.
He is presumably the Philip Passmore buried at North Molton on 5 September 1743.
The Devon will index has a Philip Pasmore of North Molton, but Devon wills were detroyed in WWII.
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2. Bapt 1 Nov 1702 North Molton s/o Philip & Jone
This Philip Pasmore's marriage is:
B. 1 Feb 1723 North Molton to Elizabeth Pickard
Their children were: Joan 1724, John 1727, Elizabeth 1730 & Philip 1735. I have checked the baptism of Philip but the other children are from an online tree and should be double checked.
He was the son of 1 and father of 4.
His burial is assumed to be at North Molton on 24 February 1758 as Philip Pasmore.
A Philip Pasmore of North Molton is in the Devon will index for 1759. This will was lost with other Devon wills in WWII.
There is a second Devon will index record for a Phillip Pasmore of North Molton in 1762. There is not a burial for a Philip in that year, so I am not sure whose will this is.
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3. Bapt 8 Apr 1731 North Molton s/o Richard & Mary
This Philip Pasmore's marriage is:
D. 5 Jan 1768 North Molton to Diana Hulford (bachelor - could sign)
Both were single and both could sign. The witnesses were John Passmore (could sign) and William Hulford (signed x)
Their children were: Richard 1768, Philip 1770, John 1774, Mary 1777, Jonathan 1779, Chardon 1782, Robert 1784, Philip 1789.
He was buried at North Molton on 4 October 1795 as 'Philip Pasmore (64) Memoram He was Clarke of this Parish 19 years'.
His age at burial confirms he was the Philip baptised in 1731.
He must have become parish clerk in 1776.
His signature at his marriage can be identified as also witnessing many other marriages in the registers of North Molton through his role as clerk.
He witnessed marriages E in 1770 (his first cousin) and G in 1784, although on G Philip is spelt with two Ls.
He also witnessed many other marriages as 'P. Pasmore'.
He was the grandson of 1 and father of 10 and 14.
His wife was buried as Dinah Passmore aged 49 on 18 November 1796.
Marriage J in 1792 is therefore not his and the signature there can be seen to be different.
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4. Bapt 11 Feb 1735 North Molton s/o Philip & Elizabeth
This Philip Pasmore's marriages are:
C. 21 Mar 1764 Cutcombe, Somerset, to Joane Pasmore (bachelor - could sign)
Married by licence which states both were single and he could sign. The licence was made with Michael Burgess.
His age was recorded on the licence as 27 (so born c1736/7) and she was 23 (born c1740/1).This confirms he was the Philip born in 1735.
The licence seems to be dated 26 March 1764 and the marriage in the register 21 March 1764 so need to check this.
His occupation is listed as a woolcomber. On 4 July 1772 a Grace Hayden was apprenticed to Philip Pasmore, woolcomber.
According to an online tree their children were: John 1764 & Christian 1767. This needs to be checked.
E. 9 Sep 1770 North Molton to Margaret Kingdon (widower - could sign)
He was a widower, she was a spinster. He could sign and she signed x. The witnesses were Michael Burgess (could sign) and Philip Pasmore (no. 3, his first cousin).
This was the same Michael Burgess he made his marriage licence with for his 1764 first marriage. He presumably named two sons after this man.
The signature on this marriage is the same as the 1764 marriage showing this is the same man.
According to an online tree their children were: Philip 1770, Philip 1772, William 1774, Elizabeth 1777, Margaret 1780, Robert 1782, Richard 1783, Michael 1785 & Peter 1787. This needs to be checked.
He was buried on 16 March 1804 at North Molton as 'Philip Pasmore 69' showing he was the one baptised in 1735.
A will for Philip Pasmore is in the Devon Will Index for 1804. This will however does not survive.
He was the grandson of 1, son of 2 and father of 11 and 12.
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5. Bapt 31 Aug 1742 North Molton s/o Henry & Sarah
He was buried at North Molton on 8 August 1746 as 'Philip son of Henry Passmore'.
His parents gave their next son born after his death the same name.
He was the grandson of 1 and brother of 6.
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2. Bapt 1 Nov 1702 North Molton s/o Philip & Jone
This Philip Pasmore's marriage is:
B. 1 Feb 1723 North Molton to Elizabeth Pickard
Their children were: Joan 1724, John 1727, Elizabeth 1730 & Philip 1735. I have checked the baptism of Philip but the other children are from an online tree and should be double checked.
He was the son of 1 and father of 4.
His burial is assumed to be at North Molton on 24 February 1758 as Philip Pasmore.
A Philip Pasmore of North Molton is in the Devon will index for 1759. This will was lost with other Devon wills in WWII.
There is a second Devon will index record for a Phillip Pasmore of North Molton in 1762. There is not a burial for a Philip in that year, so I am not sure whose will this is.
He is presumably the Philip Pasmore recorded as being assaulted in 1748. This could potentially also be 3 or 4, however they would have been 16 and 12 at the time so seems more likely to have happened to the adult Philip when he was in the Thornes inn:
Devon Heritage Centre
QS/4/1748/Michaelmas/PR/57:
QUARTER SESSIONS BUNDLES: 1748: MICHAELMAS: PRESENTMENTS AND INDICTMENTS, Michaelmas 1748
Presentment against Abraham Thorne of North Molton, innholder, and Margery, his wife, for assaulting Philip Pasmore and beating him with 'Spits' and other offensive weapons. True bill.
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4. Bapt 11 Feb 1735 North Molton s/o Philip & Elizabeth
This Philip Pasmore's marriages are:
C. 21 Mar 1764 Cutcombe, Somerset, to Joane Pasmore (bachelor - could sign)
Married by licence which states both were single and he could sign. The licence was made with Michael Burgess.
His age was recorded on the licence as 27 (so born c1736/7) and she was 23 (born c1740/1).This confirms he was the Philip born in 1735.
The licence seems to be dated 26 March 1764 and the marriage in the register 21 March 1764 so need to check this.
His occupation is listed as a woolcomber. On 4 July 1772 a Grace Hayden was apprenticed to Philip Pasmore, woolcomber.
According to an online tree their children were: John 1764 & Christian 1767. This needs to be checked.
E. 9 Sep 1770 North Molton to Margaret Kingdon (widower - could sign)
He was a widower, she was a spinster. He could sign and she signed x. The witnesses were Michael Burgess (could sign) and Philip Pasmore (no. 3, his first cousin).
This was the same Michael Burgess he made his marriage licence with for his 1764 first marriage. He presumably named two sons after this man.
The signature on this marriage is the same as the 1764 marriage showing this is the same man.
According to an online tree their children were: Philip 1770, Philip 1772, William 1774, Elizabeth 1777, Margaret 1780, Robert 1782, Richard 1783, Michael 1785 & Peter 1787. This needs to be checked.
He was buried on 16 March 1804 at North Molton as 'Philip Pasmore 69' showing he was the one baptised in 1735.
A will for Philip Pasmore is in the Devon Will Index for 1804. This will however does not survive.
He was the grandson of 1, son of 2 and father of 11 and 12.
He is presumably the Philip Pasmore named in North Devon Record Office documents:
2309B/0/T/48/2(a): Lease for lives 1. Sir Charles W. Bampfylde of Poltimore 2. Philip Pasmore of North Molton, woolcomber, 1780.
2309B/0/T/48/2(b): Assignment of lease 1. Philip Passmore 2. William Passmore, his son, 1797.
The son must be the William baptised in 1774. The woolcomber occupation matches that on Philip's 1764 marriage licence and the Philip Pasmore baptised in 1731 was dead by 1797, so this must be the one baptised in 1735.
He must also be the Philip in this 1794 document, although if so a Richard Pasmore born c1776 needs to be added to his children.
North Devon Record Office B1162/15/8
Counterpart Lease for 99 years or three lives, 1794
1. Sir Charles Warwick Bampfylde of Poltimore, baronet
2. John Fownes Luttrell of Dunster Castle in Somerset, esq.
3. Philip Passmore of North Molton, woolcomber
Premises: Plot of ground - part of the Manor of North Molton
Consideration: £8
Lives: Philip Passmore; his sons Philip Passmore aged 20 and Richard Passmore aged 16
10 July 34 George III
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3. Bapt 8 Apr 1731 North Molton s/o Richard & Mary
This Philip Pasmore's marriage is:
D. 5 Jan 1768 North Molton to Diana Hulford (bachelor - could sign)
Both were single and both could sign. The witnesses were John Passmore (could sign) and William Hulford (signed x)
Their children were: Richard 1768, Philip 1770, John 1774, Mary 1777, Jonathan 1779, Chardon 1782, Robert 1784, Philip 1789.
He was buried at North Molton on 4 October 1795 as 'Philip Pasmore (64) Memoram He was Clarke of this Parish 19 years'.
His age at burial confirms he was the Philip baptised in 1731.
He must have become parish clerk in 1776.
His signature at his marriage can be identified as also witnessing many other marriages in the registers of North Molton through his role as clerk.
He witnessed marriages E in 1770 (his first cousin) and G in 1784, although on G Philip is spelt with two Ls.
He also witnessed many other marriages as 'P. Pasmore'.
He was the grandson of 1 and father of 10 and 14.
His wife was buried as Dinah Passmore aged 49 on 18 November 1796.
Marriage J in 1792 is therefore not his and the signature there can be seen to be different.
He is named with his father Richard on this 1744 lease as aged 12:
North Devon Record Office
B1162/15/3
Lease for 99 years or three lives, 1744
Repository
1. Sir Richard Warwick Bampfylde of Poltimore, baronet
2. Richard Passmore of North Molton, tailor
Premises: A tenement in North Molton
Consideration: £7
Lives: John Passmore ages 64; Richard Pasmore aged 42; Philip Passmore aged 12
25 March
I assume this was perhaps connected to the death in 1743 of his grandfather, Philip Pasmore 1.
I assume John Pasmore aged 64 (so born c1680) is a younger brother of 1 and so Richard's uncle and this Philip's great uncle, but this needs to be checked.
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6. Bapt 2 Sep 1747 North Molton s/o Henry & Sarah
This Philip Pasmore was given the same name as his brother who died the previous year (no. 6).
In the North Devon Record Office', the item description of document 2044A/PO 346 from 1779 is 'Settlement examination of Philip Pasmore - born in N. Molton - age 16, left there - c1777 married a Merton woman & has 1 child. 1779'.
There is not a date of birth, but marrying in c1777 means this Philip must have been born at least in the 1750s. The only Philip this can be from the North Molton registers is therefore this one baptised in 1747.
His marriage is therefore:
F. 12 Mar 1776 Merton, Devon, to Elizabeth Broad (no marital status given - could sign)
While no marital status is given, the signature is clearly different to the marriages from 1764, 1768 and 1770 in North Molton. The witnesses were David Caruthers and John Quance, the latter I assume is a church official as he witnessed other marriages.
On the marriage, Philip is listed as a 'sojourner'. This is someone who resides temporarily in a place. He therefore had not been granted settlement in Merton.
I have not found an apprenticeship record to know his occupation and being apprenticed at 16 seems generally too old but not impossible, but presumably he was working in 1776 when he married.
Other documents in the North Devon Record Office give more information about Philip and his wife Elizabeth:
2044A/PO 435 Maintenance order 'Elizabeth Pasmore & Philip Pasmore of Merton ordered to pay 1s. each per week for the maintenance of their base child'. Date: 1779.
2044A/PO 430 Warrant to apprehend William Ward, tailor, of Merton as putative father of the bsse child of Elizabeth Pasmore, wife of Philip. Date: 1779.
2044A/PO 387 Removal of Philip Pasmore & Elizabeth his wife from Merton to North Molton. Date: 1779.
I have been unable to find a birth of this illegitimate child and so do not know whether they died or were left in Merton when Philip and Elizabeth were removed to North Molton.
It is clear that as a removal order was actioned, this Philip had financially hit hard times.
We therefore know Philip was sent back to North Molton and had to financially pay for a child in Merton that was apparently not his biological child.
The three marriages of Philip Pasmores in North Molton and South Molton in 1784, 1785 and 1789 (G, H and I) are not this Philips as these men signed the marriage with a x. We know that this Philip from the 1776 marriage could sign his name.
He is also not the widower Philip Pasmore who married in 1792 (J), as this is a noticably different signature to the 1776 Merton marriage.
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6. Bapt 2 Sep 1747 North Molton s/o Henry & Sarah [continued]
Now as I said earlier, I am doing this research to rule in or rule out my ancestor Philip Pasmore of Penryn, Cornwall (c1746/7-1802) as the one baptised in North Molton in 1747.
His age at burial in St Gluvias in 1802 is given as 55 so born c1746/7. He is listed as a pauper. His age ties in with the Philip Pasmore baptised in 1747, but Penryn is a long way from North Molton - 103 miles away.
I have found a 1722 removal order in the North Devon Record Centre (1786-4/5) of a George Shephard of Redruth, Cornwall, labourer, and his wife and family being discharged to North Molton.
People therefore did go from Cornwall to Devon. Could Philip have left North Molton and gone to Penryn in Cornwall in the reverse direction, as many researchers have listed in their trees?
The next evidence to look at is the 1781 marriage in Cornwall to compare the signature to that Philip to the one who married in 1776 in Merton.
I attach an image of the two signatures here with the 1776 signature at the top and the 1781 signature at the bottom.
I think the similarities, including the capital Ps, the open 'p' at the end of Philip (and not seen in the signatures of the other Philip Pasmores) and other similarities show this is indeed the same man.
The second marriage of this Philip Pasmore is therefore:
X. 12 Aug 1781 St Gluvias, Cornwall, to Mary Launder (no marital status - could sign)
The full marriage image can be found online here: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QGLV-RBCW
I am satisfied by this identification, but would appreciate any comments. Perhaps he left Devon and moved 100 miles to start a new life away from his wife and to avoid paying for the upkeep of a child that was not his.
He might perhaps have been a bigamist. The various Elizabeth Pasmores need to examined to see if there is perhaps a death in Devon or Cornwall, but I have not done so yet.
Philip and Mary had the following children all born in Cornwall: John 1781–1864, Mary 1785–1800, Sarah Pasmore 1787, Joan 1790–1790 & Henery [sic] 1792.
He appears to have named children Henry, Sarah and Joan after his parents and aunt/grandmother.
He witnessed the marriage of his wife's assumed relative (brother?) John Launder to Grace Waters at St Gluvias on 20 September 1784.
An insurance document at Kresen Kernow dated 16 July 1792 for Penryn, Cornwall (MS 11936/387/602985) shows he was a tailor:
Description: Insured: William Dawney, Penryn, Cornwall, clothier. Other property or occupiers: Penryn, Cornwall (Pearce, weaver; Williams, widow; Pasmore, Taylor and others, weavers); at the mill, Penryn (Ninnis, miller).
He was buried at St Gluvias, Cornwall, on 1 July 1802. His age is given as 55 years and he was listed as being a pauper.
His son John Pasmore moved to the London area and on 12 June 1848 married, as his second wife, Jane Wise|Woolford at St George in the East, Middesex. On this marriage, his father is listed as Philip Pasmore with the occupation of tailor.
The 1744 document in North Devon Record Office B1162/15/3 mentioned previously, shows that Philip's assumed uncle Richard was also a tailor, so perhaps this was a family profession.
If we revisit the 1779 document about the alleged father of the child of Philip's first wife Elizabeth, it names him as William Ward, tailor, of Merton. Was Philip perhaps working for or with this William Ward?
I assume that as Philip is listed as a pauper on his burial im St Gluvias, he must have had settled status there or else he would have been removed to his home parish of North Molton.
He was the grandson of 1, first cousin of 3 and 4 and brother of 5.
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Great job Jon.
The signatures certainly clinch it.
And even though I now don't have a clue how the Philip Passmore, who married my 5th great aunt Anne Watts, is connected to the other Passmores, it has been wonderful to watch your research unravel some of the ambiguities you were faced with.
Well done, Dale
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Great job Jon.
The signatures certainly clinch it.
And even though I now don't have a clue how the Philip Passmore, who married my 5th great aunt Anne Watts, is connected to the other Passmores, it has been wonderful to watch your research unravel some of the ambiguities you were faced with.
Well done, Dale
Thanks. I will still put up what I have on the other Philip Pasmores in the next couple of days. I do not have the answer myself to who the Philip who married Ann Watts was though. But I will post what I do have to see if you can work any more out!
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3. Bapt 8 Apr 1731 North Molton s/o Richard & Mary
This Philip Pasmore's marriage is:
D. 5 Jan 1768 North Molton to Diana Hulford (bachelor - could sign)
Both were single and both could sign. The witnesses were John Passmore (could sign) and William Hulford (signed x)
Their children were: Richard 1768, Philip 1770, John 1774, Mary 1777, Jonathan 1779, Chardon 1782, Robert 1784, Philip 1789.
He was buried at North Molton on 4 October 1795 as 'Philip Pasmore (64) Memoram He was Clarke of this Parish 19 years'.
His age at burial confirms he was the Philip baptised in 1731.
He must have become parish clerk in 1776.
His signature at his marriage can be identified as also witnessing many other marriages in the registers of North Molton through his role as clerk.
He witnessed marriages E in 1770 (his first cousin) and G in 1784, although on G Philip is spelt with two Ls.
He also witnessed many other marriages as 'P. Pasmore'.
He was the grandson of 1 and father of 10 and 14.
His wife was buried as Dinah Passmore aged 49 on 18 November 1796.
Marriage J in 1792 is therefore not his and the signature there can be seen to be different.
He is named with his father Richard on this 1744 lease as aged 12:
North Devon Record Office
B1162/15/3
Lease for 99 years or three lives, 1744
Repository
1. Sir Richard Warwick Bampfylde of Poltimore, baronet
2. Richard Passmore of North Molton, tailor
Premises: A tenement in North Molton
Consideration: £7
Lives: John Passmore ages 64; Richard Pasmore aged 42; Philip Passmore aged 12
25 March
I assume this was perhaps connected to the death in 1743 of his grandfather, Philip Pasmore 1.
I assume John Pasmore aged 64 (so born c1680) is a younger brother of 1 and so Richard's uncle and this Philip's great uncle, but this needs to be checked.
His widow's burial entry on 18 November 1796 at North Molton reads, 'Dinah Pasmore (The Clark's Widow) 49' which confirms that it was the Philip Pasmore baptised in 1731 and died in 1795 who married in 1768.
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There are 19 Philip Passmore|Pasmore baptisms between 1672 and 1811 I have found who are associated with North Molton.
18 took place in North Molton and 1 in Alwington.
They are:
1. Bapt 16 Feb 1672 North Molton s/o Richard & Mary
2. Bapt 1 Nov 1702 North Molton s/o Philip & Jone
3. Bapt 8 Apr 1731 North Molton s/o Richard & Mary
4. Bapt 11 Feb 1735 North Molton s/o Philip & Elizabeth
5. Bapt 31 Aug 1742 North Molton s/o Henry & Sarah
6. Bapt 2 Sep 1747 North Molton s/o Henry & Sarah
7. Bapt 17 Dec 1760 North Molton s/o John & Catherine
8. Bapt 10 Feb 1762 North Molton s/o John & Mary (sometimes incorrectly transcribed as 1761)
9. Bapt 9 Jan 1763 Alwington s/o Richard & Susannah
10. Bapt 15 Dec 1770 North Molton s/o Philip & Diana
11. Bapt 15 Dec 1770 North Molton s/o Philip & Margaret
12. Bapt 20 Apr 1772 North Molton s/o Philip & Margaret
13. Bapt 28 Jul 1788 North Molton s/o John & Mary
14. Bapt 18 Oct 1789 North Molton s/o Philip & Dinah
15. Bapt 6 Mar 1791 North Molton s/o John & Grace
16. Bapt 6 Dec 1797 North Molton s/o William & Mary
17. Bapt 7 Nov 1798 North Molton s/o Philip & Catherine
18. Bapt 11 Oct 1801 North Molton s/o John & Grace
19. Bapt 25 Sep 1811 North Molton s/o Philip & Elizabeth
I have identified 3 more Philip Pasmore baptisms so am adding them in here and so the above Philip Pasmores are renumbered from the above listed number 7.
There are 22 Philip Passmore|Pasmore baptisms between 1672 and 1811 I have found who are associated with North Molton or the very close area.
18 took place in North Molton and 1 in Alwington.
They are:
1. Bapt 16 Feb 1672 North Molton s/o Richard & Mary
2. Bapt 1 Nov 1702 North Molton s/o Philip & Jone
3. Bapt 8 Apr 1731 North Molton s/o Richard & Mary
4. Bapt 11 Feb 1735 North Molton s/o Philip & Elizabeth
5. Bapt 31 Aug 1742 North Molton s/o Henry & Sarah
6. Bapt 2 Sep 1747 North Molton s/o Henry & Sarah
7. Bapt 14 Mar 1756 Morchard Bishop s/o William & Elizabeth
8. Bapt 17 Dec 1760 North Molton s/o John & Catherine
9. Bapt 10 Feb 1762 North Molton s/o John & Mary (sometimes incorrectly transcribed as 1761)
10. Bapt 9 Jan 1763 Alwington s/o Richard & Susannah
11. Bapt 15 Dec 1770 North Molton s/o Philip & Diana
12. Bapt 15 Dec 1770 North Molton s/o Philip & Margaret
13. Bapt 20 Apr 1772 North Molton s/o Philip & Margaret
14. Bapt 28 Jul 1788 North Molton s/o John & Mary
15. Bapt 18 Oct 1789 North Molton s/o Philip & Dinah
16. Bapt 6 Mar 1791 North Molton s/o John & Grace
17. Bapt 19 Feb 1797 North Molton s/o John & Mary
18. Bapt 14 May 1797 North Molton s/o John & Grace
19. Bapt 6 Dec 1797 North Molton s/o William & Mary
20. Bapt 7 Nov 1798 North Molton s/o Philip & Catherine
21. Bapt 11 Oct 1801 North Molton s/o John & Grace
22. Bapt 25 Sep 1811 North Molton s/o Philip & Elizabeth
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1. Bapt 16 Feb 1672 North Molton s/o Richard & Mary
This Philip Pasmore's marriage is:
A. 5 May 1700 North Molton to Jone Abbot
They had the following children: Richard 1700, Philip 1702, Joan 1703, John 1706, Robert 1708, Mary 1711 & Henry 1714.
He was the father of the Philip Pasmore I have numbered 2 and was the grandfather of the Philip Pasmores I have numbered 3, 4, 5 and 6.
He is presumably the Philip Passmore buried at North Molton on 5 September 1743.
The Devon will index has a Philip Pasmore of North Molton, but Devon wills were detroyed in WWII.
An online family tree on ancestry created by Stephen Bridge has Joan Abbott as Joan Dee who on 16 Feb 1698 Richard Abbott of Bishop's Nympton at North Molton. I have not double checked this as yet.
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4. Bapt 11 Feb 1735 North Molton s/o Philip & Elizabeth
This Philip Pasmore's marriages are:
C. 21 Mar 1764 Cutcombe, Somerset, to Joane Pasmore (bachelor - could sign)
Married by licence which states both were single and he could sign. The licence was made with Michael Burgess.
His age was recorded on the licence as 27 (so born c1736/7) and she was 23 (born c1740/1).This confirms he was the Philip born in 1735.
The licence seems to be dated 26 March 1764 and the marriage in the register 21 March 1764 so need to check this.
His occupation is listed as a woolcomber. On 4 July 1772 a Grace Hayden was apprenticed to Philip Pasmore, woolcomber.
According to an online tree their children were: John 1764 & Christian 1767. This needs to be checked.
E. 9 Sep 1770 North Molton to Margaret Kingdon (widower - could sign)
He was a widower, she was a spinster. He could sign and she signed x. The witnesses were Michael Burgess (could sign) and Philip Pasmore (no. 3, his first cousin).
This was the same Michael Burgess he made his marriage licence with for his 1764 first marriage. He presumably named two sons after this man.
The signature on this marriage is the same as the 1764 marriage showing this is the same man.
According to an online tree their children were: Philip 1770, Philip 1772, William 1774, Elizabeth 1777, Margaret 1780, Robert 1782, Richard 1783, Michael 1785 & Peter 1787. This needs to be checked.
He was buried on 16 March 1804 at North Molton as 'Philip Pasmore 69' showing he was the one baptised in 1735.
A will for Philip Pasmore is in the Devon Will Index for 1804. This will however does not survive.
He was the grandson of 1, son of 2 and father of 11 and 12.
He is presumably the Philip Pasmore named in North Devon Record Office documents:
2309B/0/T/48/2(a): Lease for lives 1. Sir Charles W. Bampfylde of Poltimore 2. Philip Pasmore of North Molton, woolcomber, 1780.
2309B/0/T/48/2(b): Assignment of lease 1. Philip Passmore 2. William Passmore, his son, 1797.
The son must be the William baptised in 1774. The woolcomber occupation matches that on Philip's 1764 marriage licence and the Philip Pasmore baptised in 1731 was dead by 1797, so this must be the one baptised in 1735.
He must also be the Philip in this 1794 document, although if so a Richard Pasmore born c1776 needs to be added to his children.
North Devon Record Office B1162/15/8
Counterpart Lease for 99 years or three lives, 1794
1. Sir Charles Warwick Bampfylde of Poltimore, baronet
2. John Fownes Luttrell of Dunster Castle in Somerset, esq.
3. Philip Passmore of North Molton, woolcomber
Premises: Plot of ground - part of the Manor of North Molton
Consideration: £8
Lives: Philip Passmore; his sons Philip Passmore aged 20 and Richard Passmore aged 16
10 July 34 George III
The 1792 marriage [J] of a widower Philip Pasmore I was unsure of at first as the signature on this marriage does not match any of the marriages or witnesses that came before it. The same signature however appears as a witness on the 1801 marriage of Philip Pasmore and Elizabeth Slader [K].
However having now found the following document regarding this Philip's will:
The National Archives, Kew
IR 26/337/380
Abstract of Will of Philip Passmore, Woolcomber of North Molton, Devon. Proved in the Court of Exeter.
Date: July 30 1804
This names his three children and wife as Elizabeth and this confirms that the following third marriage was his:
J. 12 Nov 1792 North Molton to Elizabeth Radford (widower - could sign)
The marriage was by licence and he was described as being a clothier and a widower. He could sign and she could not. Unlike the signatures on his 1764 and 1770 marriages, he now signed his surname with two Ss (Passmore), whereas in 1764 and 1770 he signed as 'Pasmore'. The capital Ps are also different.
The extract of his will contained in the above mentioned IR 26/337/380 contains the following:
Date of the Probate and Sum sworn to:
1804 July 30th under 600£
Name and Description of the Testator or Intestate:
Philip Passmore late of North Molton Woolcomber
Names and Places of Abode of the Executors or Administrators:
Philip Passmore of the same his son
Names of the Legatees, distinguishing the Residuary Legatee/Degree of Relationship/Account of the several Legacies, and Annuities, and Form of the Requests, particularly of the Residue:
Elizabeth Passmore - Wife - Six Pounds and ten shillings per year during her life payable out of Rackapark
Christian Kingdon - Daughter - The House & Garden she lived in
Robert Passmore - Son - Three Dwelling Houses and Garden with Fifty Pounds
Phillip Passmore, Residuary Legatee - Son - All the rest & residue of his Personal Estate Goods & Chattels he gave to his said son Phillip Passmore and appointed him sole Executor.
As only his children Christian born 1767, Philip born 1772 and Robert born 1782 are named in his will, presumably these are the only children who outlived him.
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7. Bapt 14 Mar 1756 Morchard Bishop s/o William & Elizabeth
This Philip Pasmore was not born in North Molton and I have no evidence he lived there. However Morchard Bishop is 18 miles from North Molton. Also his burial appears to have taken place at Molland, just 5.7 miles from North Molton.
His parents were William Passmore and Elizabeth Smith who married at Morchard Bishop in 1747.
He is assumed to have been the Philip Pasmore who married Anne Stribling at Morchard Bishop on 1 January 1781.
They had the following children at Morchard Bishop: Betty 1781, William 1784, Anne 1787, Thomazin 1790, Eleanor 1793, Philip 1796, George 1799.
I have been unable to see an image of the marriage to see if he could sign or not. However the baptism of Thomazin at Morchard Bishop on 11 April 1790 shows this he is not the Philip who married Anne Watts in North Molton on 1789. The latter couple had a son baptised in June 1789 and buried December 1790, both in North Molton.
A Philip Pasmore was buried 23 May 1813 at Molland aged 57 so born c1755/6. This age matches this Philip, but could also be one of the Philip Pasmores who married in North Molton in 1784, 1785 or 1789 [G, H & I].
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8. Bapt 17 Dec 1760 North Molton s/o John & Catherine
The parish registers do not have the burial of a Philip Pasmore as a child for either this Philip or Philip number 9 baptised in 1762. Both therefore seem to have lived to adulthood.
The age of the Philip Pasmore on the 1841 census and his age at death seem to identify 9 as dying in 1843 (discussed below), therefore which of the 2 marriages in 1785 and 1789 [G & I] are this Philip's?
What is known is that the Philip who married Catherine Painter in 1784 [marriage G] had children with her from 1784 to 1798. He therefore cannot be the same as the Philip who married Ann Watts in 1789 [marriage I].
Furthermore, the Philip who married Mary Watkins in South Molton in 1785 is known from a settlement record (discussed below) to have been alive in 1793 along with his named wife and daughter.
It is therefore clear that the 1784, 1785 and 1789 marriages are 3 different men. They are not the same person and online trees are often not accurate when it comes to these marriages.
However I believe the most likely marriage of this Philip is the following:
G. 18 Jul 1784 North Molton to Catherine Painter (no marital status given - signed x)
No marital status is given for either and both signed x. The witnesses were Robert Stoneman and Phillip Pasmore. The latter is presumably Philip born in 1731 [3] in his role as parish clark rather than as a relative. On 13 Feb 1768, this Philip and his wife Diana/Dinah witnessed the marriage of the other witness here, Robert Stoneman, to Mary Priest at North Molton.
I have not researched how Philip's father John was related to the Pasmore family, but perhaps he was closely related to 3. Others will have to look into this as it is out my remit on just looking at the Philip Pasmores.
Philip and Catherine had the following children: John 1784, Mary 1787, Robert 1789, Betty 1792, Philip 1798. He presumably named his eldest son John after his father.
John was baptised in October 1784, so Catherine was pregnant when they got married.
He is assumed to be the father of 20.
I have been unable to find a burial for him, but the burial of his wife Catherine appears to be in North Molton on 4 December 1820 aged 59.
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9. Bapt 10 Feb 1762 North Molton s/o John & Mary (sometimes incorrectly transcribed as 1761)
A Philip Pasmore is alive in the 1841 census aged 79 years (mistranscribed as 73) living at East Street, North Molton, with Philip Hoil and his family. I have not looked to see if Philip Hoil was related, but he could have been a nephew.
Philip Pasmore was buried at North Molton as Philip Passmore on 25 June 1843 aged 81 years. Both the age on the census and age on the burial seem to confirm he is the Philip baptised in 1762.
His occupation on the census is given as a weaver.
The fact he was a weaver seems to confirm that the below 1789 settlement document refers to him:
North Devon Record Office
1786-4/3/47
Settlement examination of Philip Passmore, weaver, now resident in N Molton - age c.10 he was a servant to Richard Passmore of N Molton - later had 5.5 years service with William Burgess of Rabbiscott in N Molton - then 3 months service with John Abbott in N Molton - went to work for William Kingdon of Thorverton for 3 months - later worked in George Nympton for 3 months before returning to N Molton for 6 months - joined RN on the Cumberland for 6.5 years before being paid off - since then has been in N Molton
Date: 1789
The dates given here of 5.5 years + 3 months + 3 months + 3 months + 6 months + 6.5 years is 13 years 3 months. We do not know how long he worked as a servant for Richard Passmore from aged 10, but we are looking at a man who was at least 23 years old in 1789 so born before c1766.
The occupation on this 1789 settlement as a weaver and the 1841 census as a weaver shows this to presumably be the same man. He presumably had to confirm his settlement despite being born in North Molton and that he had not received settlement anywhere else as he had been away with the navy for several years.
It therefore seems that his marriage is:
I. 4 Jan 1789 North Molton to Ann Watts (no marital status given - signed x)
No marital status is given, both were of the parish and both signed x. The witnesses were Thomas Slomcombe and P. Pasmore [3, presumably in his role as parish clark].
Ann Watts seems to have already has an illegitimate son James Watts baptised on 14 May 1786 and the baptism records 'James son of Ann Watts (basechild & pauper)'.
They had another son John Pasmore together on 7 Jun 1789 which shows she was pregnant when they married. John was buried aged 1 1/2 years on 27 December 1790 and was recorded as a pauper.
Ann presumably died before the 1841 census and it does not look like Philip married again before his death in 1843.
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10. Bapt 9 Jan 1763 Alwington s/o Richard & Susannah
This Philip Pasmore's marriage is:
H. 4 Feb 1785 South Molton to Mary Watkins or Willkins (no marital status given - signed x)
The marriage records he was 'late of parish of Alwington but now of this Parish, Husbandsman'. There is no marital status given for either and both signed x. The witnessses were Henry Seals & Richard Passmere (signed x).
They had one daughter Elizabeth in c1788 and parents and daughter were all alivein 1793 as they were named in a settlement examination, although I am not sure what parish they were then in.
North Devon Record Office: Volume of settlement examinations
Reference: 3054A/PO 8
Title: North Devon Record Office: Volume of settlement examinations
Philip Passmore, soldier of the North Devon Militia, born in Alwington; also his wife Mary and child Elizabeth aged 5 February 1793
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11. Bapt 15 Dec 1770 North Molton s/o Philip & Diana
He was baptised on the same day as 12.
This Philip Pasmore was buried aged 20 on 19 October 1789.
The day before his burial his parents baptised their youngest child Philip after its late elder sibling.
He was the great grandson of 1, son of 3 and brother of 15.
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12. Bapt 15 Dec 1770 North Molton s/o Philip & Margaret
He was buried on 23 December 1770 as 'Philip son of Philip Pasmore'.
Two years later his parents named their next son Philip.
He was the great grandson of 1, grandson of 2, son of 3 and brother of 13.
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13. Bapt 20 Apr 1772 North Molton s/o Philip & Margaret
He was given the same name as his elder brother.
This Philip Pasmore's marriage is:
K. 17 Jul 1801 North Molton to Elizabeth Slader (bachelor - could sign)
They married by licence and the marriage records he was a woolcomber and bachelor. She was a spinster. The witnesses were Philip Passmore [4, whose signature is the same as his 1792 third marriage] and Michael Sladen.
Their children according to an online tree were: Mary Slader 1805, Margaret 1808, Elizabeth 1810, Philip 1811, William 1813, Michael 1816 & Joan Grace 1818.
His gravestone survives and a photo was uploaded by user Rhory_G to ancestry in 2017. It states he was 'Clerk and Schoolmaster in this Parish'. It lists his date of death as 21 December 1818 and age at death of 46.
The gravestone also names his wife Elizabeth as dying on 27 August 1860 aged 84 years and their daughter Joan Grace who died in April 1820 aged 2 years 4 months.
There is an 1822 will which is in the Devon Wills index which I assume is his and there also seems to be a surviving copy:
Devon Archives and Local Studies Service (South West Heritage Trust)
Reference: 1078/IRW/P/324
Description:
Philip Passmore of North Molton, Devon
Date: 1822
If this is his, then his probate was granted 4 years after his death.
His widow's death was recorded in Trewman's Exeter Flying Post on Wed Sep 12 1860 Issue 4926 'Aug 28 at Northmolton, aged 94, Betsy, widow of Mr Philip Passmore who was for a great number of years clerk of the parish, she was the oldest female inhabitant'. The age is different to the gravestone, but shows she was known as Betsy.
He was the great grandson of 1, grandson of 2, son of 3, brother of 12 and father of 22.
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14. Bapt 28 Jul 1788 North Molton s/o John & Mary
He was a twin with William baptised the same day.
Both boys were buried on 12 August 1788 as 'Willm & Philip Passmore Twins & Infants'.
His parents may have named another son Philip after him in 1797, or they may not [see 17].
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15. Bapt 18 Oct 1789 North Molton s/o Philip & Dinah
The day after his baptism, his parents buried their eldest son Philip on 19 Oct 1789. He was therefore named after his elder brother. It is possible that he had a different name at birth and then was renamed when his elder brother died.
An online tree stated he died in 1856, but I have not checked further details of his life.
He was the great grandson of 1, son of 3 and brother of 11.
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16. Bapt 6 Mar 1791 North Molton s/o John & Grace
His parents were John Passmore and Grace Mole who married at North Molton on 4 Apr 1790.
This Philip Passmore was buried on 7 August 1796 as 'Phillip Passmore [aged] 5'.
His parents named another son Philip in 1801 [21].
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17. Bapt 19 Feb 1797 North Molton s/o John & Mary
This Philip Passmore may have been named after an elder brother who died in 1788 [14] or he may not.
This is because a John Passmore married a Mary Kingdon in North Molton on 7 July 1788 (both of North Molton) and then a John Passmore married a Mary Moore at North Molton on 23 Jun 1793 (both of Twitching).
It appears from the dates that there are two lots of children born to these two couples which overlap as from 1793 onwards there are the following baptisms:
1 Dec 1793 John
8 Sep 1793 William
16 Jun 1794 Samuel
1 Sep 1795 William
26 Jan 1797 John
6 Dec 1797 Philip
The baptisms of William & Philip [14] in 1788 (both bur 1788), William in 1789 (bur 1789) and Jenny in 1791 presumably belong to John Passmore and Mary Kingdon, but how the other children may split between two couples would have to be a guess.
There are no infant burials of John Pasmores in North Molton between 1793 and 1797, so presumably they are from two different couples as the one baptised in 1793 was presumably still alive in 1797. It is the same situation for the Williams as there are no burials from 1793 to 1795 so the first one was presumably alive in 1795.
This Philip Passmore married Ann Lethaby in 1819. While this marriage is listed in the majority of online trees as being the marriage of Philip Passmore baptised in 1797 son of William and Mary, I believe this is incorrect [see 19].
I haven't researched the children of this Philip, but online trees have him as dying in 1868.
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18. Bapt 14 May 1797 North Molton s/o John & Grace
His parents were John Passmore and Grace Mole who married at North Molton on 4 Apr 1790.
This Philip Passmore was buried as an 'infant' on 24 May 1798.
His parents named another son Philip in 1801 [21].
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19. Bapt 6 Dec 1797 North Molton s/o William & Mary
His parents were William Passmore and Mary Stoneman who married on 2 July 1797 at North Molton.
Online trees have this Philip Passmore as marrying Ann Lithaby or Lethaby in 1819. I looked at the marriage and a William Passmore witnessed the marriage, so this seemed to be correct as it could match his father's signature on his own marriage to Mary Stoneman in 1797, although the witness signed as 'Wm' in 1819 not 'William'.
Philip Passmore [3] in his position as parish clark also shorted his first name to P when signing as a witness. And in fact this William Passmore who witnessed the 1819 marriage also witnessed other marriages in the parish frequently, so it seems he was a church official. He perhaps took over as parish clerk from Philip Passmore [13].
I think it may have been assumed that this Philip was the one who married Ann Lethaby because of the witness signature. In fact I believe this Philip must be the one who married Betsy Frayne in North Molton on 30 January 1824.
They had children in North Molton before moving to Limehouse in Middlesex in 1828 or 1829.
The reason I think he was this Philip Pasmore is because he named three of his children Mary Stoneman Pasmore. He clearly wanted to name a daughter after his mother.
Their children were: Mary Stoneman Pasmore 1824–1829, Robert Passmore 1826–aft 1881, Elizabeth Passmore 1828–1829, Mary Stoneman Pasmore|Passmore 1830–1832 & Mary Stoneman Passmore|Lincoln 1832-aft 1858.
The Philip Pasmore, son of William Passmore and Mary Stoneman therefore did not marry Ann Lethaby, he married Betsy or Elizabeth Frayne.
Philip Passmore was buried on 1 December 1843 aged 46 years at St Anne Limehouse, Middlesex.
His widow was buried as Elizabeth Passmore on 2 May 1847 aged 49 years at St Anne Limehouse, Middlesex.
His daughter Mary Stoneman Passmore's marriage to James Edward Lincoln in St Mary Islington in 1858 gives his occupation as her father as 'schoolmaster'.
The grandson of the son of Philip Pasmore 1747-1802 [6] moved to Limehouse from Cornwall and lived there in the 1830s. This John Pasmore married in St Anne Limehouse in 1831. It is not known if he could have ended up there due to his Devon family links, but as his grandmother was a Stoneman [6's mother], there was perhaps a double Pasmore and Stoneman connection.
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21. Bapt 11 Oct 1801 North Molton s/o John & Grace
This Philip Passmore was buried on 26 March 1802 as 'Phillip Passmore (infant)'.
His parents had named another son Philip in 1791 who died in 1796 [16].
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22. Bapt 25 Sep 1811 North Molton s/o Philip & Elizabeth
I have not researched what happened to him.
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And I think that is virtually everything I have got on all the Philip Passmores of North Molton, Devon!
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All of this research matches my records into my descent from Philip Passmore born 1672. I am then descended from his son Philip Passmore born in 1700, and his son Philip Passmore born in 1735. This Philip Passmore really did marry 3 times. His second wife Margaret Kingdon is whom I am descended from. She was only 15/16 and died in 1790. Philip Passmores 3rd wife was Elizabeth Radford. I am descended from Philip and Margarets son Richard Passmore born in 1775. They were all from North Molton, but I am puzzled why Philip Passmore would leave out his son's William and Richard in his 1804 will. They were alive? We are very distant cousins. :)
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My, you have done a lot of work on the Passmore family.the name Passmore crops up in my Jutsum tree and North and South Molton feature greatly.I just went through your 6 pages of very interesting work but Jutsum does not appear unfortunately.i wondered if you could help me with my John Jutsum husband of Elizabeth Townsend and Mary Skinner. I have him dying in 1800 in St Thomas Apostle.Mary died in 1816 and they both appear to be buried in the local graveyard.I cant find his birth date or parents . I wondered if with your local knowledge you might be able to help.His will was in the Devon records but I have been unable to access it .He is not the John jutsum who married Ann Baker and according to most people with trees on ancestry lived to over 100.i say this as that particular John had a lot of children with Ann and the timeline makes it impossible.Any help would be fantastic .thanks .Fred.
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He is presumably the Philip Pasmore named in North Devon Record Office documents:
2309B/0/T/48/2(a): Lease for lives 1. Sir Charles W. Bampfylde of Poltimore 2. Philip Pasmore of North Molton, woolcomber, 1780.
2309B/0/T/48/2(b): Assignment of lease 1. Philip Passmore 2. William Passmore, his son, 1797.
The son must be the William baptised in 1774. The woolcomber occupation matches that on Philip's 1764 marriage licence and the Philip Pasmore baptised in 1731 was dead by 1797, so this must be the one baptised in 1735.
He must also be the Philip in this 1794 document, although if so a Richard Pasmore born c1776 needs to be added to his children.
North Devon Record Office B1162/15/8
Counterpart Lease for 99 years or three lives, 1794
1. Sir Charles Warwick Bampfylde of Poltimore, baronet
2. John Fownes Luttrell of Dunster Castle in Somerset, esq.
3. Philip Passmore of North Molton, woolcomber
Premises: Plot of ground - part of the Manor of North Molton
Consideration: £8
Lives: Philip Passmore; his sons Philip Passmore aged 20 and Richard Passmore aged 16
10 July 34 George III
The 1792 marriage [J] of a widower Philip Pasmore I was unsure of at first as the signature on this marriage does not match any of the marriages or witnesses that came before it. The same signature however appears as a witness on the 1801 marriage of Philip Pasmore and Elizabeth Slader [K].
However having now found the following document regarding this Philip's will:
The National Archives, Kew
IR 26/337/380
Abstract of Will of Philip Passmore, Woolcomber of North Molton, Devon. Proved in the Court of Exeter.
Date: July 30 1804
This names his three children and wife as Elizabeth and this confirms that the following third marriage was his:
J. 12 Nov 1792 North Molton to Elizabeth Radford (widower - could sign)
The marriage was by licence and he was described as being a clothier and a widower. He could sign and she could not. Unlike the signatures on his 1764 and 1770 marriages, he now signed his surname with two Ss (Passmore), whereas in 1764 and 1770 he signed as 'Pasmore'. The capital Ps are also different.
The extract of his will contained in the above mentioned IR 26/337/380 contains the following:
Date of the Probate and Sum sworn to:
1804 July 30th under 600£
Name and Description of the Testator or Intestate:
Philip Passmore late of North Molton Woolcomber
Names and Places of Abode of the Executors or Administrators:
Philip Passmore of the same his son
Names of the Legatees, distinguishing the Residuary Legatee/Degree of Relationship/Account of the several Legacies, and Annuities, and Form of the Requests, particularly of the Residue:
Elizabeth Passmore - Wife - Six Pounds and ten shillings per year during her life payable out of Rackapark
Christian Kingdon - Daughter - The House & Garden she lived in
Robert Passmore - Son - Three Dwelling Houses and Garden with Fifty Pounds
Phillip Passmore, Residuary Legatee - Son - All the rest & residue of his Personal Estate Goods & Chattels he gave to his said son Phillip Passmore and appointed him sole Executor.
As only his children Christian born 1767, Philip born 1772 and Robert born 1782 are named in his will, presumably these are the only children who outlived him.
There is indeed the baptism of a Richard in 1775 so his children with second wife Margaret seem to be:
Philip 1770, Philip 1772, William 1774, Richard 1775, Elizabeth 1777, Margaret 1780, Robert 1782, Michael 1785 & Peter 1787.
Philip's first wife Joan was buried on 1 July 1669 as 'Joan Wife of Philip Pasmore'.
As has been pointed out here by the previous poster, William and Richard were in fact alive at the time of their father's death but are not listed in the names of beneficiaries in the sums sworn at his probate.
The full original will does not survive as it was destroyed with all the other Devon wills in WWII.
Philip is named with his son William on lease 2309B/0/T/48/2(a) in 1797 listed above. He is also named with sons Philip and Richard in a lease 3 years before in 1794 also listed above B1162/15/8.
I can therefore only assume that William and Richard received their inheritiance in their father's lifetime and that this was referenced in the lost original will but not recorded in the schedule.
He may also have fallen out with one or the other of these sons and just left them one shilling each which was not recorded in the schedule either.
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All of this research matches my records into my descent from Philip Passmore born 1672. I am then descended from his son Philip Passmore born in 1700, and his son Philip Passmore born in 1735. This Philip Passmore really did marry 3 times. His second wife Margaret Kingdon is whom I am descended from. She was only 15/16 and died in 1790. Philip Passmores 3rd wife was Elizabeth Radford. I am descended from Philip and Margarets son Richard Passmore born in 1775. They were all from North Molton, but I am puzzled why Philip Passmore would leave out his son's William and Richard in his 1804 will. They were alive? We are very distant cousins. :)
Thanks for the reply. I have added my thoughts on this above.
I am pleased to have confirmed my connection to the North Molton Passmore family and now need to do my own research and see how far I can get back with them from Richard baptised in 1672!
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This Philip Passmore really did marry 3 times. His second wife Margaret Kingdon is whom I am descended from. She was only 15/16 and died in 1790. Philip Passmores 3rd wife was Elizabeth Radford.
What has been interesting to me about this third marriage in 1792 is how different Philip's signature was to his marriages in 1764 and 1770.
He has even changed the spelling of how he spelt his name to include a double S in Passmore when previously he signed with one.
It shows you can't always rely on a signature to prove identity!
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My, you have done a lot of work on the Passmore family.the name Passmore crops up in my Jutsum tree and North and South Molton feature greatly.I just went through your 6 pages of very interesting work but Jutsum does not appear unfortunately.i wondered if you could help me with my John Jutsum husband of Elizabeth Townsend and Mary Skinner. I have him dying in 1800 in St Thomas Apostle.Mary died in 1816 and they both appear to be buried in the local graveyard.I cant find his birth date or parents . I wondered if with your local knowledge you might be able to help.His will was in the Devon records but I have been unable to access it .He is not the John jutsum who married Ann Baker and according to most people with trees on ancestry lived to over 100.i say this as that particular John had a lot of children with Ann and the timeline makes it impossible.Any help would be fantastic .thanks .Fred.
I'll have a look and see what I can find, but this looks like one tricky brick wall!
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His second wife Margaret Kingdon is whom I am descended from. She was only 15/16 and died in 1790.
Philip's first wife Joan was buried on 1 July 1669 at North Molton as 'Joan Wife of Philip Pasmore'.
Philip's second wife Margaret was buried at North Molton on 24 June 1790 as 'Margarett Passmore (Aged 46)'. From this age at death she seems to have been born c1743/4. She would therefore have been aged about 26 when she married rather than the 15/16 you mentioned?
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Hi Jon,
thanks for clarifying this. I thought I am descended from the Margaret Kingdon born in 1754 in North Molton, unless this is another Margaret?
Do you have any information on my Passmore ancestors before Philip Passmore 1672-1743? His father was Richard Passmore born in 1652 and his wife Sarah. I cannot find a marriage for them, unless there was disruption due to the civil war/Commonwealth? Much research is needed.
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According to his baptismal record. Philip Passmore's (bap 1672) parents were Richard Passmore and Margery.
A marriage for Richard Passmore and Margery Lechedon is registered on 3rd June 1672 at NM.
This Richard Passmore bapt 1652 is the son of Richard Passmore and Sara(h) unknown.
There is a baptism for a Richard Passmore in 1616, the son of Henry Passmore. He appears the best candidate for the father of Richard the younger.
The baptismal records for the other children of Henry Passmore record the mother as Jackett, Facate or Faccett. (where it is actually lised on the record).
I hope this helps, Dale
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thanks for clarifying this. I thought I am descended from the Margaret Kingdon born in 1754 in North Molton, unless this is another Margaret?
The Margaret Kingdon baptised in 1754 as daughter of William and Elizabeth does look like it fits from a naming perspective as Philip and Margaret Pasmore who married in 1770 named a son William in 1774 and a daughter Elizabeth in 1777.
However Margaret's death age of 46 in 1790 does not agree with this 1754 baptism. I wondered if possibly Margaret might have been baptised years later, but the parents William Kingdon and Elizabeth Tapp married in 1749 and apparently had children baptised in 1749, 1751, 1754, 1756, 1759 etc. and so the 1754 Margaret was evidently baptised around her birth.
The child baptised in 1756 was called Michael and Philip and Margaret Pasmore had sons baptised in 1783 and 1785 called Michael. So maybe this is why she called their sons Michael after her brother?
However despite all the above, there is still the issue that the age at burial in 1790 is 10 years out. Certainly I have listed above the fact that Elizabeth Slader|Pasmore was buried aged 84 in 1860, but that newspaper article stated she was 94, so ages could be out.
For me to be more certain i would have to check the other Margaret Kingdons in the area. We must always keep in mind that people moved about and we can't just reply on people with the same names in the parish being our ancestors.
Look for example at my ancestors Philip Pasmore who started this whole North Molton search in the first place and we know he was born in 1747 in North Molton and died in 1802 in Penryn, Cornwall 100 miles away.
I did a quick search for Kingdons in North Molton and came up with this record as an example:
North Devon Record Office
Reference: 1786-4/3/46
Description: Settlement examination of Mary Kingdon, now resident N Molton - born in Bratton Fleming - lived with her parents at the parish Mill - age 13, apprenticed to William Bray of N Molton, as a weaver - served 4 years - has since lived in N Molton
So here is a Kingdon who moved into North Molton as an example.
I don't know if there are any old Pasmore gravestones in the graveyard at North Molton which might name Philip 1735-1804 and his wives which may list an age of death for Margaret. Certainly I know that there is a gravestone of Philip Pasmore born in 1772 and died 1818 and his widow. Maybe there are other Pasmore graves.
I would do some more digging around before being sure that the Margaret Kingdon baptised in 1754 is the one who married in 1770. I would suspect that a widower with young children would have chosen an older stepmother than a 16 year old to be honest. Also, although females could marry at 12 and males at 14, usually at this time it was in the twenties.
I would like to know your thoughts on this.
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According to his baptismal record. Philip Passmore's (bap 1672) parents were Richard Passmore and Margery.
A marriage for Richard Passmore and Margery Lechedon is registered on 3rd June 1672 at NM.
This Richard Passmore bapt 1652 is the son of Richard Passmore and Sara(h) unknown.
There is a baptism for a Richard Passmore in 1616, the son of Henry Passmore. He appears the best candidate for the father of Richard the younger.
The baptismal records for the other children of Henry Passmore record the mother as Jackett, Facate or Faccett. (where it is actually lised on the record).
I hope this helps, Dale
Thanks, Dale. Yes I have seen all this information but to be honest I am not convinced by the identification of the Philip Pasmore who married Margaret Lechedon in 1672 as the one baptised in 1652.
Her unusual name makes it much more certain she was baptised in North Molton as Margerie Leickerdon on 3 September 1643, daughter of Phillip and Katherine. This is presumably where the name Philip Pasmore comes from in this line of Pasmores, as the eldest son of Richard and Margery Pasmore was named Philip in 1672/3.
For Philip to be the one baptised in 1652, he would have made him only 19 years old at his marriage in 1672 and also 9 years younger than his wife. I am not convinced.
Certainly the fact the marriage took place on 3 June 1672 and their first child was baptised on 16 February 1673 (1672 in Old Style dating) suggests they did not marry because she was pregnant and the child was probably born at 8 and a half months.
Why therefore would a 19 year old man have married so young? It seems unlikely to me and so without further evidence it feels like we are just making the identifications fit with the names in the parish registers. And as I said above, people could have moved into an area or not have been recorded in the parish registers.
For me at the moment, the parentage of the Philip Passmore who married in 1672 is unproven.
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1. Bapt 16 Feb 1672 North Molton s/o Richard & Mary
This Philip Pasmore's marriage is:
A. 5 May 1700 North Molton to Jone Abbot
They had the following children: Richard 1700, Philip 1702, Joan 1703, John 1706, Robert 1708, Mary 1711 & Henry 1714.
He was the father of the Philip Pasmore I have numbered 2 and was the grandfather of the Philip Pasmores I have numbered 3, 4, 5 and 6.
He is presumably the Philip Passmore buried at North Molton on 5 September 1743.
The Devon will index has a Philip Pasmore of North Molton, but Devon wills were detroyed in WWII.
His baptism year as 1672 is actually the Old Style date. This would be 1673 in New Style and so should be recorded as 1672/3.
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Hi Jon,
I am indeed descended from Philip Passmore 1672-1743. I am descended from his son Philip 1702-1759. My descent is then from his son Philip Passmore 1735-1804, whom married 3 times. His first wife as a Joan Passmore from Cutcombe Somerset, but I can find no evidence that they were related. They had 2 children John and Christian. However Joan died in 1769 and Philip married Margaret Kingdon 1754-1790, my ancestor. She would have been only 15/16 when Philip married her, which would be frowned upon these days, but was perfectly legal in those days. They had 11 children, but at least 5 or more died in infancy. I am descended from their son Richard Passmore 1775-1841. He was a woolcomber, later a chandler and a schoolmaster when he died in 184, just before the census was taken. His brother Philip 1772-1818 was parish clerk for 9 years, and his brother William 1774-1841 was also a woolcomber, parish clerk and a wool stapler/dealer on the 1841 census. Their other brother Robert born 1782 was a woolcomber and later was a customs and excise officer. He left a will proved in 1827 proving this and left money to his siblings as he never married. He did have an illegitimate child with a Grace Tapp in 1803. When their father Philip died in 1804, I find it puzzling why he doesn't include his sons William and Richard in his will. They were both alive. From Richard Passmore I am descended from his last child and son Richard 1813-1872 a shoemaker. Then I am descended from his eldest son John Passmore 1838-1903 a miller and then an iron miner in North Riding of Yorkshire, where I still live. I am actually a Passmore, and my real name is Lee Passmore. This makes us very distant cousins. I am struggling to find marriages and documents for Philip Passmore 1672-1743 father Richard and cannot go back any further than Henry Passmore born before 1600. We are not descended from Mighell (or Michael) Passmore 1546-1607. Our line is another line from North Molton that may not be connected to him. :)
P.S. my tree is on Ancestry.co.uk called Passmore Family Tree, with the username lpassmore2. It is public too.
Hi Lee, obviously we were chatting in the other Passmore thread so I have copied that message here which I hope is OK.
I have seen that the Philip Passmore baptised in 1772 was also a schoolmaster as was the Philip Pasmore baptised in 1797 as son of William Passmore and Mary Stoneman.
I assume the William who married Mary Stoneman is your William baptised in 1774 and online trees including yours show this,
I am interested in this as Philip Pasmore 1797-1843 and his third cousin and my ancestor John Pasmore 1809-1879 (and probably his father too) were both in Limehouse, Middlesex, together in at least 1831 to 1832. I wonder if this is just coincidence? We are unlikely to ever know!
My grandpa's grandmother was born a Pasmore (the spelling in my line) and I am particularly interested in her as she emigrated to Australia in the 1880s and died in Melbourne in 1897. I visited her grave there and feel like I have followed her life from one side of the world to the other and back again.
I have looked at our relationship and even though from the age of your grandparents I suspect we are of a similar age (I am a late 1970s child), I am actually of the Pasmore/Passmore generation above you. We are 8th cousins once removed.
All for now,
Jon
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PASSMORES IN THE DEVON WILL INDEX
I have been looking at the Passmore wills on the Devon Will Index listed here:
https://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/DevonWillsProject/DWP-Pa
As the Devon wills were destroyed in a fire in WWII, the majority are lost and all we have is a list entry from the index that was put together before the destruction.
I have extracted the Passmore wills for North Molton and South Molton and also sorted them by first name and by date.
I have shortened the entries for the purpose of posting, but the court the will was proved at and the full details can be found at the above link.
I thought this might be useful to anyone who comes across this thread in future.
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NORTH MOLTON PASMORE/PASSMORE WILLS (BY FIRST NAME)
Surname First Name(s) Year Type of Document Form of Document
Pasmore Anstice 1634 W le
Passmore Edmund 1823 W le
Passmore Edmund 1823 W co
Pasmore Elizabeth widow 1584 W? le
Pasmore Elizabeth 1710 A le
Passmore Grace 1826 A le .
Passmore Grace 1826 A ab admon to Thomas Passmore, son
Passmore Hugh 1841 W le
Pasmore Joan 1628 [W?] le
Pasmore Joan 1668 A le
Pasmore Joan 1758 W le
Pasmore John 1576 W? le
Pasmoore John yeoman 1629 W tr
Pasmoore John yeoman 1629 W co
Pasmoore John yeoman 1629 W co
Pasmoore John husbandman 1636 W tr
Pasmore John Heasill and Prer.? 1636 [W?] le
Pasmore John Heasill, 1636 W co
Pasmore John 1690 W le
Passmore John 1781 A le
Pasmore John 1784 A le
Passmore John 1787 A le
Passmore John yeoman 1799 W ab
Passmore John 1818 W le
Passmore John 1818 W co
Passmore Jonathan 1772 W le
Pasemore Michaell 1607 W tr
Pasmore Michaell 1607 W co
Pasmore Michaell 1607 W co
Passmore Michael 1807 W le
Passmore Michael yeoman 1807 W ab
Pasmore Nicholas 1717 A le
Passmore Nicholas 1807 W le
Pasmore Phillip 1616 [W?] le
Pasmore Phillip 1743 W le
Pasmore Phillip 1759 W le
Pasmore Phillip 1762 W le
Passmore Philip 1804 W le
Passmore Philip woolcomber 1804 W ab
Passmore Philip 1822 W le
Passmore Philip 1822 W co
Passmore Richard 1777 W le
Passmore Robert 1827 W le
Passmore Robert 1827 W co
Passmore Samuel farmer 1875 W co
Pasmore William 1702 W le
Pasmore William 1759 W le
Passmore William 1833 W le
Passmore William 1842 W le
Passmore William 1842 W co
Type of Document: 'W' - Will, 'A' - Administration, 'I' - Inventory, 'O' - Other
Form of Document: 'or' - Original, 'co' - Copy, 'ab' - Abstract or Extract, 'tr' - Transcript, 'le' - List Entry
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NORTH MOLTON PASMORE/PASSMORE WILLS (BY DATE)
Surname First Name(s) Year Type Form
Pasmore John 1576 W? le
Pasmore Elizabeth widow 1584 W? le
Pasemore Michaell 1607 W tr
Pasmore Michaell 1607 W co
Pasmore Michaell 1607 W co
Pasmore Phillip 1616 [W?] le
Pasmore Joan 1628 [W?] le
Pasmoore John yeoman 1629 W tr
Pasmoore John yeoman 1629 W co
Pasmoore John yeoman 1629 W co
Pasmore Anstice 1634 W le
Pasmoore John husbandman 1636 W tr
Pasmore John Heasill and Prer.? 1636 [W?] le
Pasmore John Heasill, 1636 W co
Pasmore Joan 1668 A le
Pasmore John 1690 W le
Pasmore William 1702 W le
Pasmore Elizabeth 1710 A le
Pasmore Nicholas 1717 A le
Pasmore Phillip 1743 W le
Pasmore Joan 1758 W le
Pasmore Phillip 1759 W le
Pasmore William 1759 W le
Pasmore Phillip 1762 W le
Passmore Jonathan 1772 W le
Passmore Richard 1777 W le
Passmore John 1781 A le
Pasmore John 1784 A le
Passmore John 1787 A le
Passmore John yeoman 1799 W ab
Passmore Philip 1804 W le
Passmore Philip woolcomber 1804 W ab
Passmore Michael 1807 W le
Passmore Michael yeoman 1807 W ab
Passmore Nicholas 1807 W le
Passmore John 1818 W le
Passmore John 1818 W co
Passmore Philip 1822 W le
Passmore Philip 1822 W co
Passmore Edmund 1823 W le
Passmore Edmund 1823 W co
Passmore Grace 1826 A le .
Passmore Grace 1826 A ab admon to Thomas Passmore, son
Passmore Robert 1827 W le
Passmore Robert 1827 W co
Passmore William 1833 W le
Passmore Hugh 1841 W le
Passmore William 1842 W le
Passmore William 1842 W co
Passmore Samuel farmer 1875 W co
Type of Document: 'W' - Will, 'A' - Administration, 'I' - Inventory, 'O' - Other
Form of Document: 'or' - Original, 'co' - Copy, 'ab' - Abstract or Extract, 'tr' - Transcript, 'le' - List Entry
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SOUTH MOLTON PASMORE/PASSMORE WILLS (BY FIRST NAME)
Surname First Name(s) Year Type Form
Passmore Andrew 1815 A le
Passmore Andrew wheelwright 1815 A ab admon to John Passmore, son
Passmore Joan widow 1861 W co
Passmore John 1826 W le
Passmore John junior 1826 W co
Pasmoore Henry 1659 A ab
Passmore Hugh Maire (Rev) 1861 W co
Passmore H M (Rev) 1853 W or agreements (original) including will
Passmore H M (Rev) 1861 W co
Passmore Mary widow 1899 W co
Pasmore William 1605 W le
Passmore William 1740 W le
Passmore William Bright 1831 W co
Type of Document: 'W' - Will, 'A' - Administration, 'I' - Inventory, 'O' - Other
Form of Document: 'or' - Original, 'co' - Copy, 'ab' - Abstract or Extract, 'tr' - Transcript, 'le' - List Entry
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SOUTH MOLTON PASMORE/PASSMORE WILLS (BY DATE)
Surname First Name(s) Year Type Form
Pasmore William 1605 W le
Pasmoore Henry 1659 A ab
Passmore William 1740 W le
Passmore Andrew 1815 A le
Passmore Andrew wheelwright 1815 A ab admon to John Passmore, son
Passmore John 1826 W le
Passmore John junior 1826 W co
Passmore William Bright 1831 W co
Passmore H M (Rev) 1853 W or agreements (original) including will
Passmore H M (Rev) 1861 W co
Passmore Hugh Maire (Rev) 1861 W co
Passmore Joan widow 1861 W co
Passmore Mary widow 1899 W co
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PASSMORES IN THE DEVON WILL INDEX
I have been looking at the Passmore wills on the Devon Will Index listed here:
https://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/DevonWillsProject/DWP-Pa
As the Devon wills were destroyed in a fire in WWII, the majority are lost and all we have is a list entry from the index that was put together before the destruction.
I have extracted the Passmore wills for North Molton and South Molton and also sorted them by first name and by date.
I have shortened the entries for the purpose of posting, but the court the will was proved at and the full details can be found at the above link.
I thought this might be useful to anyone who comes across this thread in future.
The Passmores of North Molton are the first ancestors I have from Devon, so I don't know much about the Devon Wills Project.
A full description of this partnership project can be found here: https://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/DevonWillsProject
Some notable information from this article:
Almost all wills and administrations of Devon people were proved or granted in one of two locations, in Devon itself or in London. The originals of those wills proved in London - very nearly all at the Prerogative Court of Canterbury (PCC) - have survived. However the originals of nearly all wills proved in Devon perished during an air-raid on Exeter in 1942.
Printed calendars (lists that are more chronological than alphabetical) covering maybe three quarters of the wills proved in Devon had been compiled before the war.
The index includes only testators (those who made wills) and intestates (those who did not make wills, but whose estates were administered), and not beneficiaries and other people mentioned in those documents.
An article written on the project gives further information: https://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/DevonWillsProject/Article-DFH
It can be seen that there appears to have been no probate for either of the Richard Passmores who died in January and February 1689/90 and who are said to have been the father of Philip Passmore baptised in 1672/3.
However, there is also not a will or administration for Philip Passmore 1731-1795 who we know was parish clerk.
The above notes state that before the destruction of the wills in 1942, three quarters of the wills had been indexed, but I have no idea which ones had not been. Does anyone please know?
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NORTH MOLTON BURIAL REGISTERS
While researching the above information on the Philip Passmores of North Molton, I looked through the indexes and many original entries of Passmore burials between 1781 and 1802.
I have found 34 burial entries for 35 members (one entry is for twins) of the Passmore family. I may not have every Passmore, but think I must have counted most of them.
These burials for this 20 year period provide an interesting overview for the Passmore families in North Molton.
For the years 1781 to 1785, the burials do not state if the person was a child or infant, however from 1786 it does. Furthermore, from at least 1784 it states if the person was a pauper or not and from the late 1780s, the burials usually include the age of the deceased.
These are the statistics of these burials:
12 of the 35 burials (one third) were for babies (10 listed as infants, one listed as 1 1/2 years and one of the 7 Passmore burials from 1781 to 1785 is known to be a child [Michael Pasmore buried in 1784 as parents named another son Michael in 1785].)
2 of the burials are for children aged 4 and 5. There are no burials of children between 5 and 19, so it shows how dreadful child mortality was for the under 5s.
6 of the burials are adults and children described as paupers.
The ages or approximate ages of 25 of the 35 burials are given in the registers: 10 infants, 1 1/2, 4, 5, 20, 21, 29, 30, 42, 46, 49, 63, 64, 75, 81 & 82.
The burial ages of the 12 adults given in the register give an average age at death if you reached adulthood for the Passmore family between 1781 and 1802 as 50 years old.
I think looking at which of the Passmore lines were paupers would be interesting and seeing how they group together, but that would take quite a bit of work!
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Hi Jon.
There are a lot of burials for my ancestor Philip Passmore 1735-1804 and his second wife Margaret Kingdon in North Molton. Of their 11 children 5 died aged 1 or below. I am unsure about which Richard Passmore the one baptized in 1812 to Richard and Mary or the one in 1813 to a Richard and Mary is my ancestor, as he was 59 when he died on the 18th April 1872 in North Molton. The occupation of Richard's father says chandler, but did he make and sell candles or just groceries, like a ships chandler sells supplies? I cannot find a burial for a Richard Passmore buried in North Molton before or after the next one was born in 1813?
Regarding wills. There are surviving wills on microfiche only at the South West Heritage Centre in North Devon. This was where I obtained the wills for Philip Passmore 1772-1818 proved in 1822, and his younger brother Robert 1782-1820, though his will was not proved until 1827. He was a customs and excise officer, and names his surviving siblings as beneficiaries, that includes Richard and William Passmore. Therefore they were still alive when their father Philip died in 1804 and left them out of his will.
Lastly, the only Passmore candidate I could find for the father of our common ancestor Philip Passmore 1672-1743 was Richard born in 1652 in North Molton. If it isn't him, we would have to look at the neighboring parishes, but there was disruption to some registers due to the English Civil War and Commonwealth under Oliver Cromwell.
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I am unsure about which Richard Passmore the one baptized in 1812 to Richard and Mary or the one in 1813 to a Richard and Mary is my ancestor, as he was 59 when he died on the 18th April 1872 in North Molton. The occupation of Richard's father says chandler, but did he make and sell candles or just groceries, like a ships chandler sells supplies? I cannot find a burial for a Richard Passmore buried in North Molton before or after the next one was born in 1813?
I have had a look at the Richard Pasmore baptisms and see one was baptised on 12 Oct 1812 as son of Richard and Mary and the other was baptised on 11 Apr 1813, also son of Richard and Mary.
There is only 6 months between the baptisms and while sometimes children were baptised months or years after they were born, something about this implies there are two Richard and Marys having two separate sets of children.
Looking at the marriages in North Molton, I see that there are indeed two marriages of a Richard Pasmore to a Mary Tapp at North Molton on 1 Apr 1793 and another Richard Pasmore who married Mary Williams at North Molton on 16 May 1803.
There is no marital status on the 1803 marriage for Richard, but he is not the same as the one who married in 1793. These are two different Richards and two different Marys.
I assume that the one who married in 1793 was the Richard baptised in 1768, son of Philip & Diana and that the one who married in 1803 was the Richard baptised in 1775, the son of Philip & Margaret.
The first couple Richard Pasmore & Mary Tapp who married in 1793 had the following children baptised at North Molton:
Mary bapt 25 Dec 1793
Richard bapt 3 May 1795
John bapt 14 May 1797
William bapt 7 Sep 1800
Then there are the following children baptised at North Molton to a Richard and Mary but I do not know which couple they belong to:
Elizabeth bapt 27 May 1804
William bapt 07 Sep 1806
Peggy bapt 02 May 1808
Mary bapt 06 Aug 1809
Richard bapt 12 Oct 1812
Richard bapt 11 Apr 1813
Looking at the children, aside from the last two children there are no overlaps in children and it looks like they could all be born to the same couple.
I am now wondering if the two Richards are perhaps for the same Richard Passmore. Could the first baptism records a home baptism as maybe he was sickly and the second is when he was stronger and was brought to the church?
I would like to know what else you have found out on these Richards and Marys, please.
Thanks,
Jon
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Hi Jon.
My Richard Passmore 1774-1841 son of Philip Passmore and his second wife Margaret Kingdon was the one that married Mary Williams in 1803. He had a sister Elizabeth, a brother William, sister Mary, Peggy is short for Margaret, so she could be named after his mother. Mary could have been named after her mother Mary Williams. Richard could sign his name when he married Mary Williams, she was illiterate. Witnesses to the marriage were William and Ann Williams. Richard's son William 1806-1866 is on the 1841 and 1851 census living with his aunt and uncle William and Joan Williams in Upcott North Molton a laborer on their farm. On the 1861 census he was a farmer in Upcott, and was a beneficiary in his uncle William Williams will. William Passmores brother Richard was also a beneficiary too, as William Williams didn't have any children:
Transcription of beneficiaries in the Will of William Williams dated 7th April 1854, proved 1855 Ref 1078/IRW/956
Nephew William Passmore left leasehold estate called Burgesses Upacott
Wife Joan Williams freehold houses and premises in the village of North Molton, as well as the residue of the estate
Nephew James Chapple freehold houses after Joan’s death
Nephew Richard Passmore 19 pounds
Nephew James Chapple 19 pounds
Sarah Passmore, wife of Richard Passmore, an annuity of 5 pounds a year to be paid out of leasehold to commence at death of my wife, and to continue until the lease of that estate expires for the use of herself and her family exclusive of her husband
Niece Mary Ann Bowden wife of Hugh Bowden 10 pounds
Niece Mary Irwen wife of John Irwen 10 pounds
Robert Passmores will from 1827 confirms that Richard born 1775 was his brother:
1078/IRW/P/329
Will of Robert Passmore, Excise Officer of North Molton, 7th July 1827
Executor – William Passmore, woolcomber Executor – brother William.
Legacies with conditions to brother Richard: £40 the sum to be left untouched unless Richard be in extreme distress, and then not to exceed £5 per year. The interest payable yearly. After Richard’s decease, Richard’s son Richard to have £15, his other three children to have £25. Nephew Richard, son of Richard to have £10 to be placed out at interest for his benefit to put him to a trade when he reaches 14 years, or 7 years if his father thinks proper; any surplus to be applied to clothes for him during his apprenticeship.
Sister Elizabeth Symonds £50 to be placed in the Exeter Bank, £5 payable yearly, unless in extreme distress, residue on death divided amongst her children.
Nephew Philip Passmore, son of brother William all houses with all appurtenances in Back Lane, North Molton. Also £10 to occupy the premises at Robert’s decease
Niece Margaret Passmore, daughter of brother William, £40
Nephews George Passmore and Francis Passmore, sons of brother William Passmore, £15 each
Nieces Mary, Elizabeth and Ann Passmore, daughters of brother William, £5 each
Nephew John Passmore, son of late brother John Passmore, £10
Niece Joan Watts, daughter of late sister Christian Kingdon £1,1s
I think the Richard Passmore baptized in 1813 is probably another Richard to another Passmore family, though there are no burials for a child of that name in North Molton before or that year this Richard Passmore was born. I therefore think my Richard Passmore whom was a shoemaker is the one of Richard Passmore and Mary Williams in 1812 along with the siblings I mentioned. This is definitely the Richard Passmore that married Sarah Frayne 1815-1883 in North Molton 1837, though she was always recorded on the census as Sally. :)
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NORTH MOLTON PARISH RECORDS
Lots more information on our ancestors can of course be obtained from other parish documents outside of the baptism, marriage and burial registers.
Wanting to find out more about the parish records held on North Molton, I emailed the North Devon Record Office this query:
Could I also please ask how I can browse the complete record collection of North Molton Parish?
There seem to be two groupings of documents under 1786 A and 1786-4, but I can't seem to see full listings under these reference numbers.
I am particularly interested in the settlement records under 1786-4/4 from 1765-1831 but I can't see the individual files and a note says they are unfit for production. Are they on microfilm or have they ever been indexed please?
I would really appreciate your help.
Today, I have received the following very helpful post from a Heritage Assistant at the archive:
With regards to the listings under 1786-4, it would appear that these documents have never been properly indexed.
I’ve looked into our paper catalogues and the majority of items from this deposit are simply listed as ‘settlement examinations’ along with the number of items in the bundle.
For example, the collection you are interested in 1786-4/4 is simply listed as ‘settlement examinations’ (41 items.) As the majority of this material is designated unfit for production, my guess would be that they are very fragile or otherwise significantly damaged where they cannot be examined or handled without causing further damage.
There is, however, 1786-4/3 – settlement examinations (104 items) 1765-1844 which is not noted as unfit for production and may be of interest.
Unfortunately, there is no full listing for this bundle either, but I will look into them next week and get back to you if they are in a condition to be consulted and copied.
I will post here when I get a further reply, but if anyone here knows anything more about North Molton records I would love to know.
I can't wait for the day when settlement records come online and are searchable in the way parish records are.
Jon
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1078/IRW/P/329
Will of Robert Passmore, Excise Officer of North Molton, 7th July 1827
Executor – William Passmore, woolcomber After Richard’s decease, Richard’s son Richard to have £15, his other three children to have £25. Nephew Richard, son of Richard to have £10 to be placed out at interest for his benefit to put him to a trade when he reaches 14 years, or 7 years if his father thinks proper; any surplus to be applied to clothes for him during his apprenticeship.
Also you state Robert Passmore born in 1782 died in 1820, though his will was not proved until 1827. Do you know when his will is dated?
Because Richard must have been 6 or under at the time it was written as it talks about him potentially being apprenticed when he reached 7.
That might help establish if his is the 1812 or 1813 baptism, if Robert wrote his will in the year of his death.
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Hi Jon.
The Will of Robert Passmore is just a transcription that I have. It doesn't give the date when he made the will, just when it was proved. The only burial I found for Robert Passmore in North Molton is the one in 1820 aged 38, which would match his age when he was baptized in 1782 to Philip and Margaret Passmore. I don't have the original copy of the will. A lot of them have been microfiched taken from the originals, as they may not have survived from the South West Heritage Centre in Devon. I have checked Find My Past, and can find no other Robert Passmores from neighboring parishes in burials that could be him at the time up to 1827. My ancestor Richard Passmore was a shoe and boot maker and would have been apprenticed to someone at a young age, but I haven't yet found a surviving apprenticeship record. His father Richard is recorded taking on an apprentice as a woolcomber in the early 1800s according to FindMyPast. I will have to follow this up.
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[Richard] had a sister Elizabeth, a brother William, sister Mary, Peggy is short for Margaret, so she could be named after his mother...
...Richard's son William 1806-1866 is on the 1841 and 1851 census living with his aunt and uncle William and Joan Williams in Upcott North Molton a laborer on their farm.
On the 1861 census he was a farmer in Upcott, and was a beneficiary in his uncle William Williams will. William Passmores brother Richard was also a beneficiary too, as William Williams didn't have any children...
...1078/IRW/P/329
Will of Robert Passmore, Excise Officer of North Molton, 7th July 1827
Executor – William Passmore, woolcomber Executor – brother William.
Legacies with conditions to brother Richard: £40 the sum to be left untouched unless Richard be in extreme distress, and then not to exceed £5 per year. The interest payable yearly. After Richard’s decease, Richard’s son Richard to have £15, his other three children to have £25. Nephew Richard, son of Richard to have £10 to be placed out at interest for his benefit to put him to a trade when he reaches 14 years, or 7 years if his father thinks proper; any surplus to be applied to clothes for him during his apprenticeship...
The children baptised for the Richard and Mary Passmores in North Molton are:
Mary bapt 25 Dec 1793
Richard bapt 3 May 1795
John bapt 14 May 1797
William bapt 7 Sep 1800
Elizabeth bapt 27 May 1804
William bapt 07 Sep 1806
Peggy bapt 02 May 1808
Mary bapt 06 Aug 1809
Richard bapt 12 Oct 1812
Richard bapt 11 Apr 1813
The will of Robert Passmore who died in 1820 and was proved in 1827 clearly states that his brother Richard had four children: 'After Richard’s decease, Richard’s son Richard to have £15, his other three children to have £25. '
It is known from the William Williams will that William baptised in 1806 and one of the Richards baptised in 1812 and 1813 were two of the children of Richard Passmore and Mary Williams.
But by 1820 (or earlier depending on when Robert Passmore's will was written) only two other children were alive.
So did one of either Elizabeth, Peggy or Mary die, or did one of them belong to the other Richard and Mary, along with the other Richard?
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It is known from the William Williams will that William baptised in 1806 and one of the Richards baptised in 1812 and 1813 were two of the children of the children of Richard Passmore and Mary Williams.
But by 1820 (or earlier depending on when Robert Passmore's will was written) only two other children were alive.
So did one of either Elizabeth, Peggy or Mary die, or did one of them belong to the other Richard and Mary, along with the other Richard?
I have looked for burials of children named Elizabeth, Peggy (or Margaret variant) and Mary in North Molton between 1800 and 1820 and can't find any.
To me, it is looking like that not all three girls were the daughters of Richard Passmore and Mary Williams.
Would love to know, if you can put me right.
Thanks!
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The Will of Robert Passmore is just a transcription that I have. It doesn't give the date when he made the will, just when it was proved. The only burial I found for Robert Passmore in North Molton is the one in 1820 aged 38, which would match his age when he was baptized in 1782 to Philip and Margaret Passmore. I don't have the original copy of the will. A lot of them have been microfiched taken from the originals, as they may not have survived from the South West Heritage Centre in Devon. I have checked Find My Past, and can find no other Robert Passmores from neighboring parishes in burials that could be him at the time up to 1827. My ancestor Richard Passmore was a shoe and boot maker and would have been apprenticed to someone at a young age, but I haven't yet found a surviving apprenticeship record. His father Richard is recorded taking on an apprentice as a woolcomber in the early 1800s according to FindMyPast. I will have to follow this up.
It would be worth seeing if more could be found on that will with the original date it was written rather than proved. I will have a dig around too!
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The Will of Robert Passmore is just a transcription that I have. It doesn't give the date when he made the will, just when it was proved. The only burial I found for Robert Passmore in North Molton is the one in 1820 aged 38, which would match his age when he was baptized in 1782 to Philip and Margaret Passmore. I don't have the original copy of the will. A lot of them have been microfiched taken from the originals, as they may not have survived from the South West Heritage Centre in Devon. I have checked Find My Past, and can find no other Robert Passmores from neighboring parishes in burials that could be him at the time up to 1827. My ancestor Richard Passmore was a shoe and boot maker and would have been apprenticed to someone at a young age, but I haven't yet found a surviving apprenticeship record. His father Richard is recorded taking on an apprentice as a woolcomber in the early 1800s according to FindMyPast. I will have to follow this up.
It would be worth seeing if more could be found on that will with the original date it was written rather than proved. I will have a dig around too!
I can only find the entry for the copy of the will that survives:
https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/e9de09f1-8db6-45a2-890c-b92bcc072567
Reference: 1078/IRW/P/329
Description:
Robert Passmore of North Molton, Devon
Date: 1827
Held by: Devon Archives and Local Studies Service (South West Heritage Trust)
It might be worth ordering a copy. I have just ordered from them those four 1779 settlement records relating to my Philip Pasmore of North Molton, Merton and Penryn (1747-1802) which is £8.50.
All for now.
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Looking at the marriages in North Molton, I see that there are indeed two marriages of a Richard Pasmore to a Mary Tapp at North Molton on 1 Apr 1793 and another Richard Pasmore who married Mary Williams at North Molton on 16 May 1803.
There is no marital status on the 1803 marriage for Richard, but he is not the same as the one who married in 1793. These are two different Richards and two different Marys.
I assume that the one who married in 1793 was the Richard baptised in 1768, son of Philip & Diana and that the one who married in 1803 was the Richard baptised in 1775, the son of Philip & Margaret.
I have had a look at burials for Mary Passmores in North Molton to try and separate them.
I have found the following burials for adult Mary Passmores from 1799 in North Molton:
Mary Passmore - buried 28 Feb 1799 - aged 30 - born c1768/9
Mary Passmore - buried 10 Jun 1810 - aged 72 - born c1737/8
Mary Passmore - buried 04 Apr 1813 - aged 42 - born c1770/1
Mary Passmore - buried 20 Apr 1815 - aged 37 - born c1777/8
Mary Passmore - 26 Jan 1836 - aged 86 - born c1749/50
At a first look, it seems the Mary who died in 1799 aged 30 could be the wife of John Passmore as they had children in North Molton from 1788 to 1797.
Based on the ages, the Mary who died in 1813 looks like she would be Mary Tapp wife of Richard Passmore born 1768.
It would then seem probable that the Mary who died in 1815 would be Mary Williams who married Richard Passmore born in 1775. Women were usually younger than their husbands, so this seems to the correct way round.
Mary buried in 1813 was buried on 4 April 1813 and it is perhaps notable that Richard Passmore baptised in 1813 was baptised on 11 April 1813. Could she be his mother and died after child birth?
I have seen that Richard Passmore born in 1768 moved to Braunton in Devon (confirmed by his birthplace as North Molton in the 1851 Braunton census) where he died in 1851. His gravestone survives and can be found on ancestry posted by users grams122 and ShirleyTeale33.
This gravestone also names his son Richard born in 1795 and died in 1848, confirming that he survived. It is very unlikely therefore that he would have had another son named Richard in 1813, so what is going on?
Could the name of the child baptised on 11 April 1813 been recorded as Richard in error? Does a will for Richard Passmore born in 1768 survive to show who his children were?
Always more digging to be done!
Jon
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Hi Jon.
You could be right about the burials of the 2 Mary Passmores in 1813 and 1815. The one in 1813 could be my ancestor if she had the other Richard in 1813 and died shortly after childbirth as it ties in with the baptism. The will of Robert Passmore from 1827 names Richard as a beneficiary and leaves him money unless in extreme distress. If we assume the Mary Passmore buried in 1815 is his wife, which is a good 6 years out if it is Mary Williams. She was born in 1770 in North Molton, but her siblings were from Bishops Nympton. Perhaps Richard struggled to raise his children, as he doesn't appear to marry again. A genealogist told me that the Mary Passmore buried in 1815 could well be Richard's brother William's wife Mary Stoneman as she was born in North Molton in 1776. He too never remarried. I have a marriage bond for William that was for 80 pounds. Half it goes to William for marrying Mary and if Mary dies before he does the remaining 40 pounds to their children. It is from 1797, along with assignment of lease from his father Philip just before he married her. I don't think I can solve this problem as the burials don't say if they were wife of Richard just their ages. I did use a genealogist a number of years ago to try to find anything on Richard Passmore, and there was nothing in the other documents in the parish such as poor relief, vestry minutes, quarter sessions, though there are 2 Richard Passmores on the 1840 Tithe Map Apportionment. The only other record I have is a death certificate from 1841, where he died before the 1841 census was taken, and was a retired schoolmaster, cause of death was consumption age 65, which matches his birth year 1775 in North Molton. The genealogist couldn't even find a record of him being a schoolmaster, unless he taught in another parish. Its quite puzzling why we cannot find anything on him apart from an 1804 apprenticeship record:
Transcript of Richard's record
First name(s) Richard
Last name Passmore
Role Master
Indenture or registration year 1804
Indenture year 1804
Registration year 1804
Place North Molton
County Devon
Apprentice's first name(s) Michael
Apprentice's last name Locke
Master's first name(s) Richard
Master's last name Passmore
Master's occupation Woolcomber
Master's place North Molton
Master's county Devon
The National Archives reference (IR 1 series) 71 f 126
Society of Genealogists number 408435
Record type Records
Record set Britain, Country Apprentices 1710-1808
Category Education & work
Subcategory Apprentices
Collections from Great Britain, England
Plus his marriage in 1803 to Mary Williams and his name appearing in the 1780 lease for lives record of his father Philip Passmore 1735-1804, along with his surviving brothers, Philip, William, Robert and John from his first marriage. He is a man of mystery. If the death certificate is not him, then I don't know whom it could be. His sibling Philip Passmore 1772-1818 was a schoolmaster too, so my relatives did educate the poor of the parish which is nice. I also cannot find a single Passmore ancestor on my side of the family tree in documents where they could not sign their names. This holds true for today being good at English.
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Hi Jon.
You could be right about the burials of the 2 Mary Passmores in 1813 and 1815. The one in 1813 could be my ancestor if she had the other Richard in 1813 and died shortly after childbirth as it ties in with the baptism. The will of Robert Passmore from 1827 names Richard as a beneficiary and leaves him money unless in extreme distress. If we assume the Mary Passmore buried in 1815 is his wife, which is a good 6 years out if it is Mary Williams. She was born in 1770 in North Molton, but her siblings were from Bishops Nympton. Perhaps Richard struggled to raise his children, as he doesn't appear to marry again. A genealogist told me that the Mary Passmore buried in 1815 could well be Richard's brother William's wife Mary Stoneman as she was born in North Molton in 1776.
The Richard Passmore who was born in 1768 in North Molton and died in Braunton in 1851 and he has a will proved at Canterbury. https://www.ancestry.co.uk/discoveryui-content/view/480039:5111?_phsrc=RlS411&_phstart=successSource&gsfn=richard&gsln=passmore&ml_rpos=1&queryId=fd7843dbab3640122e57580d0f0f9e09
There is a gravestone in Braunton that names him, his son and his daughter in law but not his wife. His gravestone states he was the "Master of the Endowed School of this Parish".
I can see from the 1851 Braunton census that Richard aged 82 is with his grandson Robert Passmore aged 23 who was born in Braunton in c1828. I assume therefore that Richard had left North Molton for Braunton by then.
Braunton burials don't seem to be available and searchable online, but if the burials there brought up a burial for his wife Mary Tapp in Braunton, then the 1815 burial would fit with the wife of William and the 1813 burial for that of Mary Williams.
Eliminating what happened to the Mary who was the wife of William might help.
But if you know that your Mary Williams was definitely born in 1770, then the age on the 1813 burial fits and it is just days away from the 1813 baptism of Richard.
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Braunton burials don't seem to be available and searchable online, but if the burials there brought up a burial for his wife Mary Tapp in Braunton, then the 1815 burial would fit with the wife of William and the 1813 burial for that of Mary Williams.
Eliminating what happened to the Mary who was the wife of William might help.
But if you know that your Mary Williams was definitely born in 1770, then the age on the 1813 burial fits and it is just days away from the 1813 baptism of Richard.
I have been looking at Richard Passmore (1768-1851) and his life in Braunton. This is to see if I can find anything else out about his wife Mary Tapp and when she died.
His son Richard Passmore born in 1795 in North Molton married Elizabeth Cutliffe in December 1795. They married by licence and he was under 21. The marriage bond record records the following:
DIOCESE OF EXETER
Marriage Bonds and Allegations for the year 1815
Marriage of Richard Passmore of Barnstaple in Devon, bachelor, minor and Elizabeth Cutcliffe of Braunton in Devon, spinster, 22nd December 1815
Repository: Devon Heritage Centre
Reference number: DEX/7/b/1/1815/482
Description: Richard Passmore had the consent of his parents to the marriage
Date: 22nd December 1815
If the transcription of the record is correct, this is important as it says "parents" which would mean Mary Tapp|Passmore wife of Richard Passmore born in 1768 was alive in December 1815.
(She must have died by 1832 when her husband remarried Christian Symonds.)
Her being alive in December 1815 would therefore seem to confirm what we were discussing previously.
Therefore the April 1813 burial is that of your Mary Williams|Passmore wife of Richard Passmore born 1775 (as it fits with her 1770 birth year you stated and the baptism of Richard Passmore a few days later). She presumably died as a result of child birth.
The April 1815 burial is that of Mary Stoneman|Passmore, wife of William Passmore as this also fits with the date of birth you stated.
There is still the confusion as to who the Richard Passmore son of Richard and Mary baptised in 1812 was. Presumably this was either a child of Richard Passmore born 1768 and Mary Tapp whose name is recorded incorrectly or their son Richard Passmore baptised in 1795 being baptised a second time for some reason.
The will of Richard Passmore of Braunton names his grandsons John Pasmore and Robert Passmore, other apparent grandchildren with the surname Waring and others are mentioned too, including his brother Phillip Passmore.
Searching for a Waring and Passmore marriage, I found this:
Devon: Marriage Bonds and Allegations for the year 1818
Marriage of James Waring of Braunton in Devon, bachelor and Mary Passmore of Braunton, spinster, 16th May 1818
Repository: Devon Heritage Centre
Reference number: DEX/7/b/1/1818/142
Description: Witness Richard Passmore Junior
Date: 16th May 1818
This is therefore the Mary Passmore baptised in North Molton in 1793 to Richard Passmore and Mary Tapp|Passmore. The 1818 date and her location in Braunton implies her parents moved to Braunton from North Molton in the 1810s.
The Mary Passmore baptised in 1793 therefore survived to adulthood, so the 1809 Mary Passmore baptised in 1809 in North Molton must indeed be the daughter of Richard Passmore and Mary Williams|Passmore.
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There are several online trees on ancestry trees who have Elizabeth Passmore who married John Houle in Swimbridge in 1829 as the daughter of Richard Passmore born 1768 and Mary Tapp|Passmore.
This is incorrect as this Elizabeth Passmore|Houle was alive in 1851 when Richard Passmore born in 1768 died and so would have been mentioned as a beneficiary (or 'disowned' with 1 shilling) in his will if she was his daughter.
Elizabeth Passmore|Houle can be seen on the 1851 and 1861 censuses in Swinbridge as being born in c1804/5 in North Molton. I haven't seen the original marriage to confirm she was single and not a widow.
As well as the Elizabeth Passmore baptised on 27 May 1804 in North Molton to Richard and Mary Passmore, there is also the baptism of an Elizabeth Passmore on 03 Feb 1803 daughter of William and Mary Passmore.
More needs to be looked at before equating this Mary Passmore|Houle as a daughter of Richard Passmore born 1775 and Mary Williams|Passmore.
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There is also in online trees Mary Passmore baptised 6 Aug 1809 daughter of Richard and Mary as being the one who married John Irwin in Swimbridge on 2 April 1836.
The census data with age and birthplace certainly make this seem probable, but there was also a Mary Passmore baptised on 15 Dec 1811 daughter of Robert and Rebecca who would need to be ruled out before confirming this identification.
However, she is not the daughter of Richard Passmore born in 1768 and Mary Tapp|Williams as like Elizabeth above, she is not mentioned in his 1851 will.
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Its all quite confusing all these Passmores marrying. I always thought my Mary Passmore born 1809 son of my ancestor Richard Passmore and his wife Mary Williams, married a John Frayne as they are recorded on the 1841 and 1851 census for North Molton. He was also a woolcomber, and could be related to the Sarah Frayne my ancestor Richard Passmore born 1812-13 married in 1837. I haven't done much research into the Frayne family, but do have a line that goes back before 1700. I will need to check in my ancestry tree.
I agree with you that the Mary Passmore buried in 1813 is Mary Williams, as she was baptized in North Molton in 1770. All of her older Williams siblings were baptized in Bishops Nympton, which isn't very far from North Molton. I don't have the will of her father Thomas Williams, but do know that he died around 1810 and she was named as a beneficiary. I cannot remember if the will is available for download on the The National Archives or Devon Record Office. With Mary dying in 1813 the money she may have been left would have been used to raise his children or become a chandler from a woolcomber if we believe the 1813 parish record entry for Richard Passmore. His brother William is also on the same page baptizing one of his children and was a woolcomber.
I have searched for marriages for Richard and William Passmore after 1813 but they did not remarry. It is likely that it is Mary Stoneman, William Passmores wife buried in 1815. With the absence of marriage certificates to know which female Passmores marry who, I would be inclined to say that my Mary Passmore married in North Molton in 1829 to John Frayne.
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Its all quite confusing all these Passmores marrying. I always thought my Mary Passmore born 1809 son of my ancestor Richard Passmore and his wife Mary Williams, married a John Frayne as they are recorded on the 1841 and 1851 census for North Molton. He was also a woolcomber, and could be related to the Sarah Frayne my ancestor Richard Passmore born 1812-13 married in 1837. I haven't done much research into the Frayne family, but do have a line that goes back before 1700. I will need to check in my ancestry tree.
Do you mean Mary Pasmore who married William Frayne on 16 Apr 1829 at North Molton? I have had a look at them in the 1851 census where her age is 51 and in the 1861 census where she is 63. So she was born c1797-1800. She can't be the Mary Passmore born in 1809.
Online trees have her as the daughter of William Passmore and Mary Stoneman baptised in 1799. I have looked at the baptisms for North Molton and there is a Mary Pasmore baptised on 28 Apr 1799 daughter of William Passmore and Mary Stoneman, but there is also a baptism on 15 Jan 1798 daughter of Edmund and Grace. I would need to do some more digging to work out who I think it is.
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I agree with you that the Mary Passmore buried in 1813 is Mary Williams, as she was baptized in North Molton in 1770. All of her older Williams siblings were baptized in Bishops Nympton, which isn't very far from North Molton. I don't have the will of her father Thomas Williams, but do know that he died around 1810 and she was named as a beneficiary. I cannot remember if the will is available for download on the The National Archives or Devon Record Office. With Mary dying in 1813 the money she may have been left would have been used to raise his children or become a chandler from a woolcomber if we believe the 1813 parish record entry for Richard Passmore. His brother William is also on the same page baptizing one of his children and was a woolcomber.
I looked at the Devon Wills Index for Thomas Williams:
Williams Thomas North Molton DEV 1810 W le BARN BECK T.
Williams Thomas Northmolton [North Molton] DEV yeoman 1810 W ab BARN DDR1 IR 26/338
His original will therefore does not survive, just the list entry in the index made before they were lost in the WWII bombing and also an abstract at the National Archives:
Abstract of Will of Thomas Williams, Yeoman of North Molton, Devon. Proved in the Court...
Reference: IR 26/338/275
Description: Abstract of Will of Thomas Williams, Yeoman of North Molton, Devon. Proved in the Court of Barnstaple in Devon.
Date: February 11 1810
I have had a look at it and can be downloaded for free at the National Archives if you register:
https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D7175777
It just lists his children including Mary Passmore but no grandchildren, so it doesn't help there.
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I have been looking at Richard Passmore (1768-1851) and his life in Braunton. This is to see if I can find anything else out about his wife Mary Tapp and when she died.
His son Richard Passmore born in 1795 in North Molton married Elizabeth Cutliffe in December 1795. They married by licence and he was under 21. The marriage bond record records the following:
DIOCESE OF EXETER
Marriage Bonds and Allegations for the year 1815
Marriage of Richard Passmore of Barnstaple in Devon, bachelor, minor and Elizabeth Cutcliffe of Braunton in Devon, spinster, 22nd December 1815
Repository: Devon Heritage Centre
Reference number: DEX/7/b/1/1815/482
Description: Richard Passmore had the consent of his parents to the marriage
Date: 22nd December 1815
If the transcription of the record is correct, this is important as it says "parents" which would mean Mary Tapp|Passmore wife of Richard Passmore born in 1768 was alive in December 1815.
(She must have died by 1832 when her husband remarried Christian Symonds.)
Her being alive in December 1815 would therefore seem to confirm what we were discussing previously.
Richard Passmore married Mary Tapp on 1 April 1793 at North Molton.
He was of North Molton and she was of 'Twitching'. However this place doesn't seem to exist and is presumably Twitchen. Historically Twitchen formed part of South Molton Hundred.
The witnesses of the marriage are John Tapp and Elizabeth Tapp, who both signed with a cross.
We know that Mary Tapp|Passmore was alive in December 1815, as she agreed to the marriage licence of her underage son Richard Passmore junior.
We however know she was dead by 14 September 1832 when Richard was granted a marriage licence to marry widow Christian Symonds (Devon Heritage Centre DEX/7/b/1/1832/379).
I have looked at the burials in Braunton, where the family moved to (probably in the 1810s) and have found this one:
Mary Passmore - buried 10 Apr 1832 - aged 65 - born c1766/7
This was 5 months before her husband Richard Passmore senior remarried, so this seems like it could be her burial.
I then looked in the baptisms for Twitchen and found a baptism on 26 May 1767 for a Mary Tapp, daughter of John and Elizabeth Tapp.
As this all seems to tie everything together, it seems Mary Tapp|Passmore was baptised in Twitchen in 1767 and was buried in Braunton in 1832.
I had a look on the English Newspaper Archive and found this is indeed correct as on Thursday 19 April 1832 in the Exeter Flying Post is the following:
"...April 4, at [H----] cottage, Braunton, aged 65, Mary, the wife Of Mr. Richard Passmore, of that place."
Her death on 4th April 1832 is also recorded in the Thursday 12 April 1832 edition of the North Devon Journal:
"At Hill's Cottage, Braunton, on Wednesday the 4th inst., aged 65, Mary, the wife of Mr. Richard Passmore, of that place."
Her death was also in the Saturday 14 April 1832 edition of Exeter and Plymouth Gazette with similar wording.
It removes Mary Tapp|Passmore from being one of the Mary Passmore burials of 1813 and 1815 and so again reaffirms the believe these are of Mary Williams|Passmore and Mary Stoneman|Passmore.
If Mary Tapp|Stoneman was born in 1767, it seems unlikely she was the mother of a child born in 1812, so that 1812 Richard baptism is still a bit of a mystery.
Either it is a re-baptism of the Richard Passmore born in 1795 for some reason, or there was another couple named Richard and Mary temporarily in North Molton, or the parents' names have been incorrectly recorded.
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Have you done an ancestry DNA test by any chance? I have done mine and have done both of my parents.
My Dad's ethnicity estimate (although of course take the percentage with a pinch of salt) is 62% England and the only location marker he has for England is Devon and Cornwall, with a sub community of Devon.
The only Devon ancestors I have found for him are these Passmores in North Molton. I am surprised he doesn't have Yorkshire as a community, but DNA is what it is! I wonder if this DNA community does come from his 4 x great grandfather Philip Pasmore (1747-1802).
DNA can help add weight to theories. I was able to crack with much more certainty a Cornish line thanks to DNA matches.
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I have done a DNA test on Ancestry a few years ago. I have had very few matches from Devon. The DNA test Ancestry does is the autosomal test, that does all of your lines, rather than just your Y Chromosome or male line. Most of my distant cousin matches have been from my maternal lines through my mother, that goes back to Suffolk, Durham County, Northumberland, South West Scotland such as Glasgow, and Northern Ireland. For some reason Devon doesn't seem to be coming up in my DNA test in the places my ancestors came from. My lineage back to the Passmores to North Molton is correct, and I did contact someone whom was a 5th cousin descended from an Aaron Bendle, brother of my 4x great grandmother Mary Bendle 1813-1879 of South Molton. She is the mother of my 3x great grandmother Eliza Wotton 1844-1910, whom married my direct Passmore ancestor John Passmore 1838-1903 from North Molton. The distant cousin said that Aaron Bendle emigrated to Australia to Victoria in 1854. If my lineage as not correct, I would not be related to this distant cousin. The limitations of the Ancestry test, is that you can only go back 200 or more years, and have good matches to 6th or 5th cousins, though most of my matches are 4th cousins, mainly from USA, Canada and Australia. Because we are 8th cousins once removed, we are too distant for the test to prove our relationship from our common ancestor Philip Passmore 1672-1743. In the near future I think DNA testing would probably be able to go further back, but for now it doesn't. It can work for people on 23andme, if you have taken a Y Chromosome test, for your male or paternal line, but you mentioned it is through one of your maternal ancestors that goes back to Philip Passmore 1747-1802, so it wouldn't work. If there was any male Passmore descendants alive today descended from Philip Passmore 1672-1734, it would prove that the male line is correct. However, I haven't found any Passmores yet that have done a DNA test on either Ancestry or 23andme.
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Back to our Passmores. My ancestor Richard Passmore 1700-1776 born and died in North Molton, was the first child of our common ancestor Philip Passmore 1672-1743. On Richard's burial from 1776 he is recorded as being Parish Clerk, so it did run in the family further back. I am descended from his brother Philip 1702-1759. The fact that Philip Passmore named his first child Richard, could this be evidence that Philip Passmore 1672-1743 was the son of Richard Passmore 1652-1690? This is the only one that I could find that could be his father in North Molton, though there could be other Richard's out there in other parishes. We know Philip married Joan Abbot, but which Joan? I have a baptism for one baptized in 1675 in North Molton daughter of Robert Abbot and Jane. There are other candidates too, such as another Joan baptized in 1670 in the parish to Robert and Jane (could be a sister), and variants in the spelling of her name such as Jone or Joane. This will need to be looked into too. We know if the Richard Passmore that married Margery Leicherdon in 1672 is the father of Philip and his 3 brothers, is Richard the one born in 1652 in North Molton? The surname Leicherdon or Leycherdon as it is spelt earlier is quite an unusual surname, from North Molton. I have gone back to a Philip Leycherdon before 1600 and one that is recorded as in the 1569 muster roll for the North Devon Militia for North Molton. There are 2 Passmores in it Myghell or Michael and his supposed brother Matthew. I cannot prove that our line goes back to either of them, if the descent is correct from Henry Passmore that married Jacette or Facette as she is recorded in the baptism register for their children Richard Passmore 1616-1690, Richard Passmores reputed father. I got this information on the Muster Roll from a book I have called North Molton a North Devon Parish by Norman Annett, from a deceased distant cousin in 2008. I will have to scan some images from it.
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I have done a DNA test on Ancestry a few years ago. I have had very few matches from Devon. The DNA test Ancestry does is the autosomal test, that does all of your lines, rather than just your Y Chromosome or male line. Most of my distant cousin matches have been from my maternal lines through my mother, that goes back to Suffolk, Durham County, Northumberland, South West Scotland such as Glasgow, and Northern Ireland. For some reason Devon doesn't seem to be coming up in my DNA test in the places my ancestors came from. My lineage back to the Passmores to North Molton is correct, and I did contact someone whom was a 5th cousin descended from an Aaron Bendle, brother of my 4x great grandmother Mary Bendle 1813-1879 of South Molton. She is the mother of my 3x great grandmother Eliza Wotton 1844-1910, whom married my direct Passmore ancestor John Passmore 1838-1903 from North Molton. The distant cousin said that Aaron Bendle emigrated to Australia to Victoria in 1854. If my lineage as not correct, I would not be related to this distant cousin. The limitations of the Ancestry test, is that you can only go back 200 or more years, and have good matches to 6th or 5th cousins, though most of my matches are 4th cousins, mainly from USA, Canada and Australia. Because we are 8th cousins once removed, we are too distant for the test to prove our relationship from our common ancestor Philip Passmore 1672-1743. In the near future I think DNA testing would probably be able to go further back, but for now it doesn't. It can work for people on 23andme, if you have taken a Y Chromosome test, for your male or paternal line, but you mentioned it is through one of your maternal ancestors that goes back to Philip Passmore 1747-1802, so it wouldn't work. If there was any male Passmore descendants alive today descended from Philip Passmore 1672-1734, it would prove that the male line is correct. However, I haven't found any Passmores yet that have done a DNA test on either Ancestry or 23andme.
There are quite a few of us North Molton descended Passmores who have done DNA tests - your John's is my x3 great grandfather's first cousin once removed and I have a strong cluster of matches from my line. :) Perhaps there's an NPE in the Wootton / Bendle pairing?
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Hi , I have heard of this family and done a lot of research and come across the Passmore name . I am related to John Jutsum The keeper at St Thomas Apostle inExeter . I am coming to Devon from NZ in May or June to research further and would any ideas as to what to research and visit . I have the numbers for a pre 1800 will of my John Jutsum died 1800 but not digitized so need help on where to go to try and read it . I know the Jutsums used to have a family reunion , would be lucky enough to to be in the area at the right time . Thanks for any ideas . Fred
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Hi , I have heard of this family and done a lot of research and come across the Passmore name . I am related to John Jutsum The keeper at St Thomas Apostle inExeter . I am coming to Devon from NZ in May or June to research further and would any ideas as to what to research and visit . I have the numbers for a pre 1800 will of my John Jutsum died 1800 but not digitized so need help on where to go to try and read it . I know the Jutsums used to have a family reunion , would be lucky enough to to be in the area at the right time . Thanks for any ideas . Fred
Hi Fred, will send you a PM :)
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Hello!
I recently traced a line back to John Passmore born 1510 in North Molton, Devon, England. I was wondering if anyone had any more information on him?
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