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Title: Help with place name needed please
Post by: Chairlady on Monday 12 April 21 10:00 BST (UK)
My great great grandfather was baptised in Nevern church with his brother but I cannot decipher the "abode".  I am hoping that this may help me as looking for Rees in Wales is tricky!  thank you to anyone able to help
Title: Re: Help with place name needed please
Post by: Pennines on Monday 12 April 21 11:05 BST (UK)
Message deleted -- unable to change the colour of the quote! However Genuki does list the places within or nearby to Nevern;

https://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/PEM/Nevern

they are shown at the foot of the page.
Title: Re: Help with place name needed please
Post by: rosie99 on Monday 12 April 21 11:24 BST (UK)
A few pages on there is Penrallt which looks similar.

That blue writing is bright  ???
Title: Re: Help with place name needed please
Post by: Pennines on Monday 12 April 21 11:39 BST (UK)
Sorry Rosie - yes it was a bit bright and I have just attempted to change the colour but failed miserably. I have therefore deleted that extract altogether.

My apologies.
Title: Re: Help with place name needed please
Post by: rosie99 on Monday 12 April 21 11:41 BST (UK)
Thank you Pennines I thought it was just me, I do need an eye test  ;D

Having looked at it I think it could be, with a little imagination

Pen-yr-allt ddu    :-\
Title: Re: Help with place name needed please
Post by: Drosybont on Monday 12 April 21 12:05 BST (UK)
Possibly Pen y allt Walteriad, slightly to the east of Nevern?

Drosybont
Title: Re: Help with place name needed please
Post by: rosie99 on Monday 12 April 21 12:15 BST (UK)
I think you are right Drosybont  :)
Title: Re: Help with place name needed please
Post by: Pennines on Monday 12 April 21 12:46 BST (UK)
So after all that -- the likely place name wasn't on Genuki !!

The story of my life -- I think you are right also Drosybont. Well done.
Title: Re: Help with place name needed please
Post by: Gadget on Monday 12 April 21 13:03 BST (UK)
A bit late to the party and not sure if you've seen this map:

https://maps.nls.uk/view/102188034#zoom=5&lat=5654&lon=1817&layers=BT

Apologies if you've seen it but didn't see a link on the thread.


Gadget
Title: Re: Help with place name needed please
Post by: Drosybont on Monday 12 April 21 14:24 BST (UK)
Thanks, Gadget, I should have included a link to the map because that's where I saw the name, but was distracted by the first of this year's osprey eggs at Dyfi and the volcanic eruption in Iceland!

Drosybont
Title: Re: Help with place name needed please
Post by: Gadget on Monday 12 April 21 15:29 BST (UK)
Pembrokeshire is the only Welsh county that I've not visited but with my Welsh roots, I knew whatever was written on the cert, it should be Pen yr allt.

 ;D
Title: Re: Help with place name needed please
Post by: rosie99 on Monday 12 April 21 16:26 BST (UK)
it should be Pen yr allt.

Which means  :-\. I am no good at the Welsh Language

I only have distant Pembrokeshire roots and I have never been there.  My 4xgt grandmother escaped and came to Kent  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: Help with place name needed please
Post by: Gadget on Monday 12 April 21 16:29 BST (UK)
  ;D

Don't worry, Rosie -

I was born there, lived there for the first 18 years of my life, half of my kin spoke fluent Welsh and I had to study Welsh in school.
Title: Re: Help with place name needed please
Post by: rosie99 on Monday 12 April 21 16:32 BST (UK)
Learning Welsh when young is the best way to do it.   I do hope to return to Wales when life is 'normal'

Title: Re: Help with place name needed please
Post by: Gadget on Monday 12 April 21 16:42 BST (UK)
There are many of them in Wales. It just means the top/head of the wooded slope.  Notice that the map has lots of tree symbol around Pen yr allt



PS - my connection is playing up - and dros y bont means over the bridge  ;D
Title: Re: Help with place name needed please
Post by: rosie99 on Monday 12 April 21 16:48 BST (UK)
Thank you, that does make sense  :)
Title: Re: Help with place name needed please
Post by: Drosybont on Monday 12 April 21 19:07 BST (UK)
Yes, apologies, 'y' instead of 'yr' was a typo.  Volcano and osprey distraction, as I said.

'dros y bont' is sometimes used colloquially to mean travelling to England ie across Severn Bridge, or more generally leaving Wales for England.  My situation having grown up in north Wales and now living in north east England.   

Drosybont
Title: Re: Help with place name needed please
Post by: Gadget on Monday 12 April 21 21:40 BST (UK)
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My situation having grown up in north Wales and now living in north east England.   

Snap  ;D

(no Severn Bridge when I left - via Shrewsbury )
Title: Re: Help with place name needed please
Post by: Chairlady on Tuesday 13 April 21 06:00 BST (UK)
You wonderful people!!  Thank you all so much for your invaluable help ;) 
Title: Re: Help with place name needed please
Post by: Drosybont on Tuesday 13 April 21 18:29 BST (UK)
Hello Chairlady,

Have you seen the 1846 will of John Rees of "Penrallt Walteriaid", presumably the father of the two children in the baptism register extract?  You can see it on the National Library of Wales website by searching here:

https://www.library.wales/discover/library-resources/wills

Drosybont

Title: Re: Help with place name needed please
Post by: Chairlady on Wednesday 14 April 21 09:36 BST (UK)
thank you for that Drosybont - I hadn't - and I am delighted to see it, it has opened a gap in a brick wall I've had!  Can't thank you enough