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Title: Help in 1884 St Vigeans address
Post by: angusg on Monday 12 April 21 00:17 BST (UK)

John Lyall was born 1884 to John & Margaret Fyfe
the birth record says he was born at 7 unreadable Place
his father was a farm Servant

Can anyone identify the address, Please.

Title: Re: Help in 1884 St Vigeans address
Post by: GordonFindlay on Monday 12 April 21 00:32 BST (UK)

There's an Ogilvy Place - currently labelled as Arbroath, but very likely called St Vigeans at times. Near the Abbey.

Slainte
Gordon

Title: Re: Help in 1884 St Vigeans address
Post by: scotmum on Monday 12 April 21 08:25 BST (UK)

Just in case it links somewhere, the following, the only Fyfe entries at Ogilvy Place,  per valuation rolls of timescale:

BEATTIE OR FYFE
MARGARET
MRS
Proprietor
HOUSE 17 OGILVY PLACE
ST VIGEANS


BEATTIE OR FYFE
MARGARET
MRS
Tenant Occupier
HOUSE 19 OGILVY PLACE
ST VIGEANS

She seems to have been divorced from, or at least sued in 1878 to be divorced from, a Forbes Fyfe.

Title: Re: Help in 1884 St Vigeans address
Post by: angusg on Monday 12 April 21 22:48 BST (UK)

Thank you both.  The information regarding Beattie/Fyffes is intriguing.

This enquiry was linked to a GLASS cousin of mines ancestors. However my Mothers was a BEATTIE
and she had connections to Beatie's in the same general area including Brechin Road & Wardykes.

When John FYFE was born 21 July 1884 at 7 Ogilvy Place His father John LYALL married Margaret FYFE at 21 Ponderlaw Street, on 6 June 1884 his residence was Slade, Carmylie.

A coincidence maybe one I will try to follow up on.

Title: Re: Help in 1884 St Vigeans address
Post by: Forfarian on Tuesday 13 April 21 09:44 BST (UK)

Quote from: GordonFindlay on Monday 12 April 21 00:32 BST (UK)

There's an Ogilvy Place - currently labelled as Arbroath, but very likely called St Vigeans at times. Near the Abbey.

This is because of where the parish boundaries go.

At one time it was all in the parish of St Vigeans, but the town and royalty of Arbroath were disjoined from St Vigeans in about 1560.

Arbroath continued to grow, and expanded into the remaining parish of St Vigeans, with the result that many streets in the town of Arbroath are in the parish of St Vigeans, not the parish of Arbroath as you would expect.

There was a further complication in 1836 when the Abbey parish was disjoined from the parish of Arbroath, but that has no bearing on where Ogilvy Place is.

If you need to know which parish a particular place is in, look it up in the early 20th century Valuation Rolls on SP.