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Title: Jamaica Bridge, fact or fiction?
Post by: Mhairi28 on Wednesday 07 April 21 20:22 BST (UK)
My mother was born in Glasgow in 1922. One of her many 'stories' was about the Jamaica Bridge. She said it was known locally as the 'Highland' bridge as it was where many Gaelic highlanders would meet up to speak in their native tongue. i have no idea whether this was in her own time or that of her grandparents who both spoke Gaelic.
I have found that the Jamaica Bridge was known by several names, but not this legend. I would be interested to know if anyone has heard the same.
Title: Re: Jamaica Bridge, fact or fiction?
Post by: ITBookworm on Wednesday 07 April 21 20:50 BST (UK)
I would guess your Mum is merging stories about two different bridges which are relatively close together without realising it. The "highland" bridge is likely to be what is known locally as the Hielanman's Umbrella on Argyle Street which intersects with Jamaica Street which is then the Jamaica bridge when it crosses the Clyde. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hielanman%27s_Umbrella (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hielanman%27s_Umbrella) - This Wikipedia article mentions Gaelic speakers meeting as your Mum suggests.
Title: Re: Jamaica Bridge, fact or fiction?
Post by: Mhairi28 on Wednesday 07 April 21 21:21 BST (UK)
Thank you so much for your reply and setting the story straight. I read the article with interest.
It was much appreciated.
Title: Re: Jamaica Bridge, fact or fiction?
Post by: Skoosh on Thursday 08 April 21 12:37 BST (UK)
The Gaels met under the bridge on their day off, where exactly depended on their home district/island.
  The Jamaica Street or Broomielaw Bridge was constructed by Thomas Telford over the Clyde, replaced by a bigger bridge about 1900 it incorporated much of Telford's stonework.

Skoosh. 
Title: Re: Jamaica Bridge, fact or fiction?
Post by: Mhairi28 on Thursday 08 April 21 14:41 BST (UK)
Thank you for sending the information. It is much appreciated.
Title: Re: Jamaica Bridge, fact or fiction?
Post by: MonicaL on Thursday 08 April 21 15:56 BST (UK)
A photo of it here www.gieitlaldy.com/products/hielanmans-umbrella-glasgow-central-a4-scottish-print

I think you need the Highlanders gathering to make it come alive really.... ;)

Added: I think this is a more realistic photo of what it was like in those times here www.glasgowtimes.co.uk/news/18509226.dark-smelly-tourists-think-glasgows-hielanmans-umbrella/

Monica
Title: Re: Jamaica Bridge, fact or fiction?
Post by: Mhairi28 on Thursday 08 April 21 16:22 BST (UK)
Goodness, not very inviting then! Thanks for the pictures.
It was a lovely way to keep the Gaelic language alive. I rarely hear it now, even when visiting the islands.
Title: Re: Jamaica Bridge, fact or fiction?
Post by: Skoosh on Thursday 08 April 21 17:20 BST (UK)
Mhairi, it's just a bridge, not a tourist attraction, it carries all the trains which cross the Clyde into the Central Station which is a tourist attraction. The tour of the Central Station is excellent but unfortunately halted at the moment for the Covid epidemic.
There was a Gaelic church north of the original bridge which the attraction on a Sunday, this was demolished to widen the station for more platforms & construction of the Central Hotel, now Grand Central.

 Every city has folk begging sadly, but there is an excellent chippy under the bridge. ;D

  https://www.glasgowcentraltours.co.uk

Bests,
Skoosh.
Title: Re: Jamaica Bridge, fact or fiction?
Post by: Mhairi28 on Thursday 08 April 21 17:42 BST (UK)
I would love to take the tour one day. It evokes memories of coming up on holiday to see my grandparents. Then we would catch the train to Wemyss Bay to take the paddle steamer across to Rothesay. Happy days!
Title: Re: Jamaica Bridge, fact or fiction?
Post by: Ian Nelson on Thursday 08 April 21 19:03 BST (UK)
There is more of interest under the ' Hielandmans Umbrella ' than is obvious.
There is an entrance on north and south sides as well as the old Red Star Parcels entrance which allows access underneath the Central Station Platforms.
There are remains of the 'village' of Grahamston which was not completely demolished due to the hurry with which the new station was constructed.  I understood that parts of the Gaelic Church were incorporated into the station building just near to the corner with Gordon Street.  The congregation moved to another church up west on St. Vincent Street.
See here,
https://www.grahamston.com/
cheers, Ian, one-time Glasgow City Tour Guide on ancient buses, those were the days!
Title: Re: Jamaica Bridge, fact or fiction?
Post by: MonicaL on Thursday 08 April 21 19:13 BST (UK)
....Ian, one-time Glasgow City Tour Guide on ancient buses, those were the days!

That must have been a job and a half! You must have lots of stories from those times  :)

Monica
Title: Re: Jamaica Bridge, fact or fiction?
Post by: Ian Nelson on Thursday 08 April 21 19:33 BST (UK)
mostly fibs ... here's a link for those who are keen on Glasgow History ..
http://www.abandonedcommunities.co.uk/Victorian%20map%201.jpg

Yes, open top buses in Glasow were brilliant when it stopped raining ..(cue for funny comments ) but the company decided the colder wetter winter months were more suited to Old London Red Routemasters so donated their Vintage Fleet to the bus museum.
When they wound up their tour operation I trained as a driver to continue the pre-bookings we had for Glasgow City Tours and extended into Weddings and Party-hire etc! at the same time as delivering my Myths of Glasgow anything for a laugh tour guide with microphones that burned a scar on your lip, if it was raining. (if ?)
I wrote a Black Humour Novella about Wee Billy (Bobby - to spare blushes) because another driver had already written a Blood Bus novel.
Cheers, Ian
Title: Re: Jamaica Bridge, fact or fiction?
Post by: Ian Nelson on Thursday 08 April 21 19:45 BST (UK)
Having checked the Victorian map it's clear that St.Columba's Gaelic Church wasn't incorporated into the Central Hotel building, it was much nearer the river than the clock tower near the Hope St / Gordon Street corner.
Another myth bites the dust!