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Title: Ellen O'Malley Near Hollymount, Mayo
Post by: mary herrmann on Wednesday 07 April 21 03:35 BST (UK)
My mother's first cousin was Ellen O'Malley nee Morrin born in 1913 in Kilbride, Owenbrin, Mayo. I was told by a relative that she married an O'Malley from the Hollymount area and lived there. I have been unable to find any other information about her and her family. I have no information on the name of her husband and couldn't find a marriage record for them in the civil records. Thank you for any help that you could provide.
Title: Re: Ellen O'Malley Near Hollymount, Mayo
Post by: Maiden Stone on Wednesday 07 April 21 17:27 BST (UK)
Welcome to RootsChat.
Did they have children and if so when were they born? As they may be alive don't name them, just give approximate birth years so we can work out when marriage may have occurred.
Was Mr. O'Malley Ellen's first husband?
Did Ellen have another forename?
Did either Ellen or her husband live outside Ireland? Have you searched for a marriage outside Ireland?
Could an alternative for Morrin be Moran?
I couldn't find a marriage either.
Title: Re: Ellen O'Malley Near Hollymount, Mayo
Post by: mary herrmann on Wednesday 07 April 21 17:35 BST (UK)
I know nothing about Ellen's husband or children so there is very little to go on. As far as I know her maiden name was always spelled Morrin. Her parents were Patrick and Mary Joyce Morrin of Kilbride. Owenbrin.   
Title: Re: Ellen O'Malley Near Hollymount, Mayo
Post by: heywood on Wednesday 07 April 21 17:43 BST (UK)
Welcome from me too  :)

There is this  family in 1911 - I hope  it’s yours and am posting it just to clarify the name
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Mayo/Owenbrin/Kilbride/704865/
Title: Re: Ellen O'Malley Near Hollymount, Mayo
Post by: mary herrmann on Wednesday 07 April 21 17:47 BST (UK)
Yes, that is my great-grandparents and family. I am trying to find out what happened to Ellen after that.  I know for sure that her married name was O'Malley and that she lived past 1996.   
Title: Re: Ellen O'Malley Near Hollymount, Mayo
Post by: heywood on Wednesday 07 April 21 17:48 BST (UK)
I can’t find her birth - do you have it?
Did they marry in Mayo?
Title: Re: Ellen O'Malley Near Hollymount, Mayo
Post by: mary herrmann on Wednesday 07 April 21 17:49 BST (UK)
That I don't know.
Title: Re: Ellen O'Malley Near Hollymount, Mayo
Post by: heywood on Wednesday 07 April 21 17:50 BST (UK)
Here is her birth
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1914/01417/1582283.pdf
Title: Re: Ellen O'Malley Near Hollymount, Mayo
Post by: mary herrmann on Wednesday 07 April 21 17:53 BST (UK)
Thank you for that.  The only Ellen O'Malley I found was a gravesite in Robeen Graveyard. There is no birth or age given so I can't verify if it was my great-aunt. This gravesite also has husband Thomas O'Malley.
Title: Re: Ellen O'Malley Near Hollymount, Mayo
Post by: Maiden Stone on Wednesday 07 April 21 17:55 BST (UK)
Ellen's birth registration. Birth registration Ballinrobe S.R. district, Cappaduff district.
 Birth 1st January 1914, place Kilbride. Father Pat, dwelling place Kilbride. Mother Mary (Joyce). Registered 26th Feb.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie

Edit. Heywood's found it.
Title: Re: Ellen O'Malley Near Hollymount, Mayo
Post by: mary herrmann on Wednesday 07 April 21 17:57 BST (UK)
Thank very much to both of you.  I am sorry I have very little to go on. My mother immigrated very young and lost contact with this side of her family. My first cousin is the one who came up with the information about Ellen living in Hollymount area.   
Title: Re: Ellen O'Malley Near Hollymount, Mayo
Post by: heywood on Wednesday 07 April 21 17:58 BST (UK)
This site has an index for births, marriages and deaths
https://www.familysearch.org/search/collection/1408347

Searching for O’Malley/Morrin births brings up three definite - 2 Ballinrobe and one Castlebar.
We can’t post the names as they could still be alive.


Added
Other matches show ‘Moran’ etc.
Title: Re: Ellen O'Malley Near Hollymount, Mayo
Post by: heywood on Wednesday 07 April 21 18:04 BST (UK)
Marriage of Annie - a witness is Ellen Morrin. 1939

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1939/08872/5208510.pdf
Title: Re: Ellen O'Malley Near Hollymount, Mayo
Post by: mary herrmann on Wednesday 07 April 21 18:07 BST (UK)
That's her Ellen's younger sister Annie Philbin.     
Title: Re: Ellen O'Malley Near Hollymount, Mayo
Post by: mary herrmann on Wednesday 07 April 21 18:11 BST (UK)
Ellen must have married after 1939 if she is still named Morrin on Annie's marriage record.
Title: Re: Ellen O'Malley Near Hollymount, Mayo
Post by: Owenwee on Thursday 08 April 21 21:14 BST (UK)
 
 There is a marriage for  Eileen* Morrin in Ballinrobe Dist 1947 to Thomas Omalley  the online view certs dont show up to 1947. There are 2 births to Morrin/Omalley in Ballinrobe  Michael 1948 and Patrick 1949.

The graves you mentioned address  Togher which is in Hollymount Dist plus she died after 1996 which again seems to be another clue. I have looked at the Newspapers for all the names and dates on the graves for an obituary but cant find any.

If you google Michael Omalley Togher Hollymount  there is a death notice for a man died 2004 died Luton from Togher, the age is 66 which matches 1948 birth, sadly only his own family mentioned no sibling or parents.
Title: Re: Ellen O'Malley Near Hollymount, Mayo
Post by: mary herrmann on Thursday 08 April 21 21:41 BST (UK)
Thanks very much for finding that.  It makes sense that the name Eileen and Ellen could be confused on the marriage record. I also found an obituary Patrick O'Malley in 2013 from Robeen that agrees with the 1949 birth you mentioned.   
Title: Re: Ellen O'Malley Near Hollymount, Mayo
Post by: eomalley on Sunday 24 July 22 00:20 BST (UK)
Hi Mary, I'm Ellen's granddaughter. I know my brother was in contact with a cousin on one of the ancestry websites so you may have already been in touch with him. Sadly my father is the only remaining member of that family as his parents & brothers have passed away. I can only remember a few trivial details about my grandmother from childhood & I recall meeting her sister in my early teens... I don't know if any of the details I have would be of much interest but if you like feel free to message me in private.
Title: Re: Ellen O'Malley Near Hollymount, Mayo
Post by: Maiden Stone on Sunday 24 July 22 13:43 BST (UK)
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Title: Re: Ellen O'Malley Near Hollymount, Mayo
Post by: mary herrmann on Sunday 24 July 22 15:01 BST (UK)
eomalley,  I just sent you a private message. 
Title: Re: Ellen O'Malley Near Hollymount, Mayo
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Sunday 24 July 22 15:04 BST (UK)

Welcome to RootsChat, eomalley  :)

eomalley,  I just sent you a private message.

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Title: Re: Ellen O'Malley Near Hollymount, Mayo
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Monday 25 July 22 07:23 BST (UK)
Marriage of Annie - a witness is Ellen Morrin. 1939

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1939/08872/5208510.pdf

Annie Morrin born 1916 at Kilbride.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1917/01317/1544257.pdf


Title: Re: Ellen O'Malley Near Hollymount, Mayo
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Monday 03 July 23 19:04 BST (UK)

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…marriage for  Eileen* Morrin in Ballinrobe Dist 1947 to Thomas Omalley

Link for 23 August 1947 marriage-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1947/08706/5144732.pdf