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Title: Mariner ?
Post by: Yvonne Donnellon on Tuesday 06 April 21 12:45 BST (UK)
 I think this is Mariner (it is in Liverpool)  but what is the word or letters before? Or am I completely wrong?

Thank you.
Title: Re: Mariner ?
Post by: Yvonne Donnellon on Tuesday 06 April 21 12:55 BST (UK)
Just had a thought, could is be M for merchant mariner?
Title: Re: Mariner ?
Post by: Bookbox on Tuesday 06 April 21 13:20 BST (UK)
Quote from: Yvonne Donnellon on Tuesday 06 April 21 12:55 BST (UK)
Just had a thought, could is be M for merchant mariner?

Yes.
Title: Re: Mariner ?
Post by: Anne Lothian on Tuesday 06 April 21 13:51 BST (UK)
Or M = Master, so Master Mariner?
Anne
Title: Re: Mariner ?
Post by: Bee on Tuesday 06 April 21 13:58 BST (UK)
Quote from: Anne Lothian on Tuesday 06 April 21 13:51 BST (UK)
Or M = Master, so Master Mariner?
Anne

Agreed, master mariner
Title: Re: Mariner ?
Post by: Bookbox on Tuesday 06 April 21 14:27 BST (UK)
Quote from: Bee on Tuesday 06 April 21 13:58 BST (UK)
Quote from: Anne Lothian on Tuesday 06 April 21 13:51 BST (UK)
Or M = Master, so Master Mariner?
Anne

Agreed, master mariner

Really? Three Master Mariners aged 25-30 in the same household? What sort of dwelling is it?
Title: Re: Mariner ?
Post by: Comberton on Tuesday 06 April 21 14:31 BST (UK)
1841 census
566/14/20 book 14
Title: Re: Mariner ?
Post by: Bookbox on Tuesday 06 April 21 16:11 BST (UK)
Thanks for posting the reference. So this is Bridgwater Street, Liverpool, and there are many seamen. The first person listed in the household is a Tailor. The mariners may have been lodging with him between voyages.

M Mariner is not an official abbreviation for 1841, where capital M is officially a manufacturer, and lower-case m is a maker. But many enumerators didn’t follow instructions, making up their own abbreviations for occupations commonly found in their own districts.

I reckon these men were being recorded as merchant mariners. There was no certification for masters before 1845, but a true master mariner needed many years’ sea experience to be in charge of a vessel.
Title: Re: Mariner ?
Post by: Yvonne Donnellon on Tuesday 06 April 21 17:10 BST (UK)
Thank you everyone, I love this site, I learn something new everything I use it!
Title: Re: Mariner ?
Post by: seaweed on Tuesday 06 April 21 17:16 BST (UK)
Spot on Bookbox.