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Title: Ellen Crow from Asterby
Post by: Lindoo on Friday 02 April 21 17:39 BST (UK)
I am trying to find out more about Ellen Crow who was born in Asterby in about 1855.  There's an Ellen Crow mentioned in the 1871 Census where she is in service to a family of Hawson.

Frank Crow was also born in Asterby on 16 Jan 1864 to a mother Ann and father John. In the 1871 Census, Ann John and Frank and others are all listed together.

I am trying to determine whether Ellen and Frank are sister and brother?

Lindoo.
Title: Re: Ellen Crow from Asterby
Post by: rosie99 on Friday 02 April 21 17:59 BST (UK)
Looks like John & Ann married in 1860

Marriage Dec qtr 1860   
Crow    John       
Spalding    Ann       
Horncastle    7a   995


CROW, FRANK       mmn SPALDING 
GRO Reference: 1864  March Quarter in HORNCASTLE  Volume 07A  Page 522
Title: Re: Ellen Crow from Asterby
Post by: tazzie on Friday 02 April 21 18:03 BST (UK)
Found this...

 Ellen Spalding 1855 Horncastle no mother maiden name....

 She's with Spalding family in 1861 in Asterby.


Tazzie
Title: Re: Ellen Crow from Asterby
Post by: rosie99 on Friday 02 April 21 18:03 BST (UK)
Two probably illegitimate Ellen Spaldings

SPALDING, ELLEN       - 
GRO Reference: 1854  March Quarter in HORNCASTLE UNION  Volume 07A  Page 467
Buried at Asterby age 6 weeks  (12 Apr 1854)

SPALDING, ELLEN       - 
GRO Reference: 1855  December Quarter in HORNCASTLE UNION  Volume 07A  Page 454
Title: Re: Ellen Crow from Asterby
Post by: tazzie on Friday 02 April 21 18:07 BST (UK)
 she was baptised as Eleanor 5 Aug 1865 mother Ann.

 Tazzie
Title: Re: Ellen Crow from Asterby
Post by: tazzie on Friday 02 April 21 18:11 BST (UK)
Frank was baptised in Asterby in 1864 father John a farmer mother Ann.


 Tazzie
Title: Re: Ellen Crow from Asterby
Post by: Lindoo on Friday 02 April 21 18:22 BST (UK)
Thanks Tazzie and Rosie99.  Just getting my head round this information.

John Crow married Ann Spalding in 1860.
Frank Crow was baptised in 1864.
Ellen or Eleanor was baptised in 1865.
If she was born in 1855 she would have been baptised at 10yr old.  Not impossible!
Ellen was illegitimate to Ann Spalding and living with the Spaldings in 1861.

Thanks very much, Lindoo.
Title: Re: Ellen Crow from Asterby
Post by: tazzie on Friday 02 April 21 18:47 BST (UK)
she was baptised as Eleanor 5 Aug 1865 mother Ann.

 Tazzie

 Sorry.......should be 1856......caught the wrong button I've got a new mini keyboard but I hate it  .

Tazzie
Title: Re: Ellen Crow from Asterby
Post by: tazzie on Friday 02 April 21 18:54 BST (UK)
Ellen marries as Ellen Crow in 1878 in West Markham in Nottinghamshire.

 All Saints 11 Feb 1878
 William Burton aged 26 bachelor a gardener of West Markham father Joseph a market gardener.
 Ellen Crow aged 23 spinster of Hemsall Lincs. Father John Crow a labourer.
 Witnesses Joseph & Mary Ann Burton.

 Tazzie
Title: Re: Ellen Crow from Asterby
Post by: BillyF on Friday 02 April 21 19:01 BST (UK)
 There is also this:

https://www.freereg.org.uk/search_records/58188035e93790ec8b8abaa5/

Mother Ann Spalding, father a servant but no name.

This more likely fits with the illegitimacy

https://www.freereg.org.uk/search_records/5f1fb7d3f493fd9fb26b8a56/ellen-spalding-baptism-lincolnshire-horncastle-1854-03-03?locale=en

when Ann marries John Crow in 1860 at All Saints Goulceby, her father is William Spalding. Goulceby is the next village to Asterby. On the 1861 census, it`s just Ann and John Crow.

(i keep adding to this)

The birth at Horncastle Workhouse looks more like Ann Crow`s daughter, as there was an infant buried at Asterby 12th April, 6 weeks old, so not able to find on the 1861 census. "If" this is right, we still need to be sure of the original Ellen Crow.

Good luck!