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Title: Thomas Gunter b.1723 Coaley -Mother’s name?
Post by: hmserge on Wednesday 31 March 21 21:14 BST (UK)
Hello everyone,

I’m trying to find the mother’s name for Thomas Gunter born 1723 Coaley. 

From the baptism record Thomas’s father was Richard Gunter.

I’d seen a family tree that gave his mother’s name as Elizabeth Manson and her father was Anders Anderson.  I’m really unsure about these 2 names as I can’t find any records. 

I’m hoping someone could help me find Thomas’s mother’s name so I can extend my family tree further. 

Thank you
Title: Re: Thomas Gunter b.1723 Coaley -Mother’s name?
Post by: duport on Thursday 01 April 21 00:21 BST (UK)
If you've already seen the baptism record, you'll know Richard's wife isn't given. Nor is there an earlier marriage of Richard in the Coaley records (not that Ancestry have transcribed, anyway).
For what it's worth, there's a James Gunter baptised 5 January 1723/4, son of Edward. And there's a marriage of Richard Gunter and Martha fforde (I think that's what it says) in Frocester 24 December 1728. A second wife for your Richard? Because Hannah, dau. of Richard Gunter was bapt. in Coaley 12 September 1727, but died and was buried on the 15th, and then on 2 November, Ann, wife of Richard Gunter was buried, also in Coaley.
Maybe you'll have to widen your net for the marriage of Richard and Ann.
Title: Re: Thomas Gunter b.1723 Coaley -Mother’s name?
Post by: hmserge on Thursday 01 April 21 09:42 BST (UK)
Hi,

Thank you for your reply with the information and advice. 

That’s a new lead so maybe I should look for a Richard and Ann, fingers crossed I’ll get somewhere :)

Thank you
Title: Re: Thomas Gunter b.1723 Coaley -Mother’s name?
Post by: ColC on Thursday 01 April 21 10:56 BST (UK)
There are a number of baptisms on freereg, including Thomas, a little later this below.

Parents noted as Richard & Martha
Elizabeth GUNTER   Baptism   13 Sep 1731   Gloucestershire   Coaley : St Bartholomew

Colin
Title: Re: Thomas Gunter b.1723 Coaley -Mother’s name?
Post by: ColC on Thursday 01 April 21 10:58 BST (UK)
Martha FORDS to Richard GUNTER   Marriage   24 Dec 1728   Gloucestershire   Frocester :
St Peter : Phillimore's Transcripts.

No earlier marriages in County, yet.

Colin
Title: Re: Thomas Gunter b.1723 Coaley -Mother’s name?
Post by: hmserge on Thursday 01 April 21 11:41 BST (UK)
Hello and thank you for searching for me.

Do you think this could be the same Richard Gunter?  I suppose it’s a good possibility.  I’m not sure if Gunter was/is a common name and if it is then it could be the Richard I’m looking for? (fingers crossed)

Thank you
Title: Re: Thomas Gunter b.1723 Coaley -Mother’s name?
Post by: Capetown on Thursday 01 April 21 12:15 BST (UK)
If you do already belong to the Forest of Dean Family History Website

www.forest-of-dean.net

(free - just register)

Coaley records have been transcribed as well as all Gloucestershire Marriage Licence & Marriage Bonds

Lots of Gunter's -

e.g.  quickly looking through



Title: Re: Thomas Gunter b.1723 Coaley -Mother’s name?
Post by: Capetown on Thursday 01 April 21 12:34 BST (UK)
Checking with Genuki Gloucestershire....

The National Gazetter (1868)

Coaly (or COWLEY)

The reason I checked, is two things - The Forest of Dean Marriage Licences etc - have a couple of Licences for Gunter of COWLEY - and so  - it is the same place.

and

The Gloucestershire Archives, Genelogical Search - have a number of Overseers Reports for GUNTER of COALEY and COWLEY .... including a Richard 1760.
Title: Re: Thomas Gunter b.1723 Coaley -Mother’s name?
Post by: hmserge on Thursday 01 April 21 12:35 BST (UK)
Hi,

I think I had a look at the Forest of Dean website but it was quite a few years ago and I was looking for a different surname, from what I remember it was a fantastic website :)

Thank you so much,  it’s a great idea
Title: Re: Thomas Gunter b.1723 Coaley -Mother’s name?
Post by: hmserge on Thursday 01 April 21 12:38 BST (UK)
So Coaley is also Cowley (I’ll remember that for the future) :)

Do you know if Gunter is a common surname for that area?
Title: Re: Thomas Gunter b.1723 Coaley -Mother’s name?
Post by: Capetown on Thursday 01 April 21 12:42 BST (UK)
Look for family names -

It will be much easier to see all the transcribed records to work with, instead of ploughing through the registers of Ancestry etc.

I used to Soundex as well - just in case the surname is spelt a little differently.

Men in Armour for Gloucestershire 1608 on Coaley.net  will show if GUNTER's were in the Area

Title: Re: Thomas Gunter b.1723 Coaley -Mother’s name?
Post by: hmserge on Thursday 01 April 21 12:47 BST (UK)
Thank you, it’s some great advice for me and I’ll have a look later today (fingers crossed I’ll have some luck), either way it will be some interesting reading I’m sure.

I really appreciate your advice, thank you
Title: Re: Thomas Gunter b.1723 Coaley -Mother’s name?
Post by: Capetown on Thursday 01 April 21 13:36 BST (UK)
I've been looking at the other baptisms of GUNTER at Coaley around that time, and Edward GUNTER and his wife seem to have their children baptised with same names, i.e. Jacob, Sarah, etc and even Hester -

---

First on Family Search there's a marriage of Edward GOUNTOR to Hannah GASTRELL and Uley - 23 December 1722 - and checking on Ancestry -

Marriage at Uley

Edward GOUNTOR of this Parish of COWLEY and Hannah GASTRELL of this Parish were marryd 23 December 1722.

Title: Re: Thomas Gunter b.1723 Coaley -Mother’s name?
Post by: hmserge on Thursday 01 April 21 13:50 BST (UK)
Ooh that’s really interesting, the area is good and the year of their marriage is good. I wonder whether Edward and Hannah could be Thomas’ parents?
Title: Re: Thomas Gunter b.1723 Coaley -Mother’s name?
Post by: Capetown on Thursday 01 April 21 14:09 BST (UK)
I'm looking at the Forest of Dean records....

in 1698, Richard & Frances GUNTER - son Joseph was christened
in 1700, Edward, son of Richard was born

It's a jig-saw puzzle, which needs writing down.  Family names are so important even now.


(as couple's had children for 20 to may be up to 30 years).... My Grandmother started having children at 17 - well into her late 40's).
Title: Re: Thomas Gunter b.1723 Coaley -Mother’s name?
Post by: hmserge on Thursday 01 April 21 14:31 BST (UK)
I think Thomas’s children were Anne, Richard, Esther, John and Thomas (maybe there were more).

It’s definitely a jigsaw puzzle (one that I’m not much good at doing).   :(