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Hi All,
Hope someone can help
Patrick Hynes married Winifred Fielding at St John the Evangelist Salford in 1858
(From lancsopc)
Their son Thomas was born 3December 1866 (also lancsopc and 1939 register)baptised St Joseph’s Ancoats
I cannot find his birth registration, I’ve tried all sorts of different spellings
I cannot find them on any census either, I’ve got Thomas on 1901 and 1911
Winifred died in Manchester royal infirmary in 1875 ( I have the certificate) she was 40 years old, wife of Patrick Hines, Labourer, so where are they?
Please can anyone help
Kind regards
Beannie
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No sign of Thomas as yet but there is a birth reg for an Andrew Hinds mmn Fielden Mar Q 1861 Manchester.
1861
17 Sharp Street, Manchester.
Patrick Hinds head mar 35 Cleaner Ireland
Winifred " wife mar 30 " "
Andrew " son 0 Manchester
Cathy
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I wonder if Patrick could have married again
1877 Manchester
Patrick Hines and same page Bridget Carty (may not be correct spouse)
1881
26 Dyche Street, Manchester
Patrick Hinds head mar 50 Scavenger Galway
Bridget " wife mar 47 Sligo
Thomas " son 14 Errand Boy Manchester
Patrick Mc Cormack boarder
Only a possibility of course.
Cathy
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Did Thomas marry Mary A Mulvey?
1891 3230/76
Ancoats
Thomas Hynes 24 yrs b Manchester
Mary A 21 yrs b Manchester
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The 1861 census looks possible but 1871 might not be?
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7FP-SY8
1871 deleted see new post.
No sign of the Thomas GRO index.
Colin
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Sorry wrong 1871 posted, the one I meant is below.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KD6V-8QG
Colin
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Thank you all so much for trying to help,
Cathy thank you for the 1861 census info, I will follow it up, if I can, Patrick married Bridget in 1877,
I think it’s my Thomas on 1881 census will have to send for cert, as Patrick’s father was Bartholomew.
Heywood, Thomas did indeed marry Mary Ann Mulvey, they are my GGrandparents
It doesn’t help when there are so many different spellings for Hynes.
ColC thank you for the census info, I will check it out.
Kind regards
Beannie
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Sorry wrong 1871 posted, the one I meant is below.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KD6V-8QG
Colin
This looks like Patrick Hynes and Winifred Kennedy
Lancs opc has baptism for Martin - 1860, St Joseph’s Ancoats.
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Lancsopc also has a baptism for :
Mary Ann Hyans , daughter of Patrick and Winifred Fielding
1st June 1864.
I can’t see a civil birth.
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Lancsopc also has a baptism for :
Mary Ann Hyans , daughter of Patrick and Winifred Fielding
1st June 1864.
I can’t see a civil birth.
Although civil registration was introduced in 1837, it was not until 1874 that the registration of a birth became compulsory. Between these dates, children may not have been registered. There was in fact a loophole as the act was not fully understood and people genuinely thought that to have a child baptised was to register that child. The 1874 Act made registration compulsory within a 6 week period and imposed a fine for non-compliance.
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As they registered the others, that would seem unlikely in this case.
I have gone back to look - Andrew was registered as Hinds and now found
1864 Mary Ann Hinds mmn Fielden
There is also a death in 1865
Lancashire BMD
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https://www.findmypast.co.uk/transcript?id=GBC%2F1851%2F0002154388
There is another Irish Hinds/Fielding Family located in Salford, during this period, this being Andrew Hinds, who was married to an Ann Fielding. The above Link is for this Family on the Salford 1851 Census.
For example, Jane Hinds has an 1848 Salford Civil Birth Registration, MMM Fielding.
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Hi Heywood and Sandblown
Thank you for these, I will follow them up, there is also a death in 1869 of 4 year old Mary Ann, maybe I should send for the certificate. Anyway will keep looking.
Kind regards
Beannie