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Title: Death of Mary Higginbotham - 9 Jul 1833 from Waterford Chronicle
Post by: RutitaHands on Tuesday 23 March 21 21:03 GMT (UK)
I found a record indicating that in the Waterford Chronicle in 1833 there is an entry for the death of Mrs. Mary Higginbotham, widow of John. I don't have access to the Waterford Chronicle historical papers so am wondering if someone would be able to find this for me. Her entry is the 5th one down on the attachment. Thank you!
Title: Re: Death of Mary Higginbotham - 9 Jul 1833 from Waterford Chronicle
Post by: Maiden Stone on Wednesday 24 March 21 11:45 GMT (UK)
Also a notice in "Wexford Conservative" 3rd July.
 "Monday last, at Ryaheen, Mrs Higginbotham, sincerely regretted"
Title: Re: Death of Mary Higginbotham - 9 Jul 1833 from Waterford Chronicle
Post by: RutitaHands on Wednesday 24 March 21 12:09 GMT (UK)
Thank you!
Title: Re: Death of Mary Higginbotham - 9 Jul 1833 from Waterford Chronicle
Post by: RutitaHands on Wednesday 24 March 21 16:20 GMT (UK)
I am unable to locate Ryaheen on google maps. What would the current spelling be for that location or is there a current name for where she was from?

I think i figured it out: Ringaheen (Townland) in Civil Parish of Rathmacknee in Barony of Forth.
Title: Re: Death of Mary Higginbotham - 9 Jul 1833 from Waterford Chronicle
Post by: Summerhill on Wednesday 24 March 21 21:20 GMT (UK)
There is a townland called RYLEEN in New Ross Co. Wexford.
Title: Re: Death of Mary Higginbotham - 9 Jul 1833 from Waterford Chronicle
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Thursday 25 March 21 07:08 GMT (UK)
I think i figured it out: Ringaheen (Townland) in Civil Parish of Rathmacknee in Barony of Forth.

https://www.townlands.ie/wexford/forth/rathmacknee/killinick/ringaheen/

There is a townland called RYLEEN in New Ross Co. Wexford.

https://www.townlands.ie/wexford/bantry/saint-marys/whitemoor/ryleen/


Title: Re: Death of Mary Higginbotham - 9 Jul 1833 from Waterford Chronicle
Post by: Wexflyer on Tuesday 30 March 21 21:15 BST (UK)
Ringaheen, Rathmacknee is the correct townland.
There is a William Higginbotham listed as occupying the entire townland in the tythe valuation.
Title: Re: Death of Mary Higginbotham - 9 Jul 1833 from Waterford Chronicle
Post by: RutitaHands on Wednesday 31 March 21 02:22 BST (UK)
How big is a townland typically? How do you see in the tithe valuation that he occupied entire townland?

From what I’ve been able to find, it appears William Higginbotham raised several farm animals (piglets, calves, etc) plus grew high quality potatoes and also raised and raced horses. I believe William is the son of Mary Higginbotham who died in 1833. I believe she was living with her son after her husband John Higginbotham died in 1832 who was living in Coolinstudd (when he died).
Title: Re: Death of Mary Higginbotham - 9 Jul 1833 from Waterford Chronicle
Post by: Wexflyer on Wednesday 31 March 21 03:30 BST (UK)
How big is a townland typically? How do you see in the tithe valuation that he occupied entire townland?

From what I’ve been able to find, it appears William Higginbotham raised several farm animals (piglets, calves, etc) plus grew high quality potatoes and also raised and raced horses. I believe William is the son of Mary Higginbotham who died in 1833. I believe she was living with her son after her husband John Higginbotham died in 1832 who was living in Coolinstudd (when he died).

There is no typical townland size. Anywhere from a few acres to thousands.
Areas in the tythe valuations are typically in Irish acres.
Areas in Griffith's valuation are in English acres.

How do I know that William occupied the entire townland?
- Easy. He is the only one listed!

The tythe valuations are available on the NAI website, you can see for yourself.
http://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie/reels/tab//004625711/004625711_00268.pdf (http://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie/reels/tab//004625711/004625711_00268.pdf)

Note that he is denoted as "Mr", which says he enjoyed a certain social standing.
Title: Re: Death of Mary Higginbotham - 9 Jul 1833 from Waterford Chronicle
Post by: Wexflyer on Wednesday 31 March 21 03:53 BST (UK)
William still occupied the entire townland in 1853, as shown by Griffiths Valuation.
Title: Re: Death of Mary Higginbotham - 9 Jul 1833 from Waterford Chronicle
Post by: Wexflyer on Wednesday 31 March 21 04:12 BST (UK)
By December 1859 William has been promoted to esquire, when the papers reported the marriage of his "only daughter".
The marriage registration can be seen here:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1859/09580/5473744.pdf (https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1859/09580/5473744.pdf)
I must say that Sophia rather let the side down by describing herself and her father as mere farmers!

That their marriages and deaths were reported in the papers in the 1830s and 50s, and that they are described as esquires and Mr, showe the family were considered to be minor gentry.
Title: Re: Death of Mary Higginbotham - 9 Jul 1833 from Waterford Chronicle
Post by: Wexflyer on Wednesday 31 March 21 04:15 BST (UK)
This link will return Higginbotham BMD registrations in the Wexford SRD, to 1900.

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/civil-perform-search.jsp?namefm=&namel=higginbotham&location=Wexford&yyfrom=&yyto=1900&type=B&type=M&type=D&submit=Search (https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/civil-perform-search.jsp?namefm=&namel=higginbotham&location=Wexford&yyfrom=&yyto=1900&type=B&type=M&type=D&submit=Search)

You can of course extend the dates later, if wished.
Title: Re: Death of Mary Higginbotham - 9 Jul 1833 from Waterford Chronicle
Post by: Wexflyer on Wednesday 31 March 21 04:26 BST (UK)
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Title: Re: Death of Mary Higginbotham - 9 Jul 1833 from Waterford Chronicle
Post by: RutitaHands on Wednesday 31 March 21 18:59 BST (UK)
Thank you Wexflyer. This is all very helpful. I spent this morning looking thru all of the records for Higginbothams at the links you provided.
Title: Re: Death of Mary Higginbotham - 9 Jul 1833 from Waterford Chronicle
Post by: LearyP on Thursday 08 April 21 10:25 BST (UK)
I am interested if there is any connection between Thomas Carthy / Cartor /Carty , who was my great grandfather and the discussed Higginbotham. In 1901/1911 Census records, Thomas Carty is owner and occupier of the same farm in Coolnastudd mentioned above near Gorey town, also Coolishal House. Farms remained in Carty family ownership until about 2013. Higganbotham Flusk and then Thomas Cartor is listed as Lessor of Coolnastudd and Coolishal House and farm until about 1900.

 I wonder if Cartor is a different spelling of the name Carty, and a relative of Thomas Carty?

On the other hand his wife was called Sarah Burk, daughter of John Burk of Boley, Ballycanew, married in Camolin RC 1869 aged 19. She had a (twin) sister Catherine married in Camolin RC to Patrick McDonald, son of Matthew Tomkyle or Tomcoyle, Ballycanew. 

I have spent year trying to establish origins of Burk family, one of my theories is could they be John Burket's family of Ballydaniel, Camolin who were baptised as adults in Ballyoughter.RC.