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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Aberdeenshire => Scotland => Aberdeenshire Lookup Requests => Topic started by: Swally on Saturday 20 March 21 16:48 GMT (UK)
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Hi Guys,
I wonder if anyone has any Memorial Inscription records or graveyard records for Inverurie / Huntly area?
I am looking for details of an Alexander Allan, Vinter, who died sometime around 1829 -31. As I have mentioned he was a Vinter in Huntly, I have a newspaper cutting from 1831 from a solicitor, James Brown of Huntly, who were looking for the creditors of an Alexander Allan in order to wind up his estate. There is no will on Scotland's People and as he did not die Intestate there will be no court record. I wonder if someone could have a look on the Memorial Inscriptions or graveyard records for this area in order to find more information on him.
I believe Alexander Allan was married to Mary Simpson and both died before statutory registration.
Any help would be appreciated.
Regards,
Swally
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Hi Swally,
You could email/phone Huntly Library, I believe they hold copies of MIs.
https://www.livelifeaberdeenshire.org.uk/libraries/local-libraries/huntly-library/
Info here:
https://www.familysearch.org/wiki/en/Huntly_Town_Cemetery,_Aberdeenshire,_Scotland_Genealogy
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Are you sure he died then? There is a notice in the Aberdeen Journal of 18-8-1830 where he is described as "Alex. Allan, late vintner in Huntly, now at Bainshole Toll-bar". He had granted a trust disposition for the benefit of his creditors and his trustees are gathering debts owed to him and preparing to pay creditors etc. Are you sure it's not just the business that's defunct and being wound up, rather that Alexander Allan being deceased? "Late vintner" does not mean he is necessarily dead, just no longer a vintner in Huntly.
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GR2,
Thanks for the reply.
I'm not sure when he died, to be honest. I have been unable to find any further information on Alexander, a lady offered to check Huntly graveyard for a headstone/burial but sadly she was unable to find anything. I'm not sure where to look now.
Regards,
Swally
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Do you know his parents' names or when he was born?
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Where does the Inverurie connection you mentioned come into play?
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Forguette,
This is what information I have.
Alexander Allan and Mary Simpson had a son, James, who was born around 1811 in Inverurie, Aberdeenshire.
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Do you know his parents' names or when he was born?
Sorry, I have been unable to find that information.
Regards,
Swally
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Hi Swally
I can only see one James Allan in Inverurie in 1851 and 1861. He is showing as born c. 1805 in Peterhead. From 1861:
James Allan 56 carter b. Peterhead
Jane Allan 56 b. Udny, Aberdeenshire
John Allan 12
Robert Allan 9
Helen Allan 2
John Gellan 36 Lodger
John Christer 42 Lodger
Address: High Street Inverurie
Jane Aitken/Allan looks to likely be widowed by 1871.
James Allan's death is showing in 1869 in Inverurie. Age indexed as 58. Mother's maiden name Simpson.
Monica
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Hi Monica,
That indeed is the correct family.
Robert was born on the 3rd January 1852 and christened at Inverurie, Aberdeen, on the 8th of February 1852. He was the son of James and Jane Aiken. James and Jane had the following children -
Alexander
James Allan 1836.
Elizabeth Mearns Allan 1838.
Jean Allan 19th December 1840 and Christened 6th January 1842.
William Allan 14th January 1846 and Christened 1st March 1846.
John Clark Allan 4th March 1849 and Christened 15th April 1849.
Robert Christened 8th February 1852.
I have been unable to find anything on James, Elizabeth or Jean. I believe that the girls died before statutory registration as I can find no deaths for them. On the 1861 Census there is Helen but I have searched for her birth with no luck, either Helen was used as a pet name or she could be James & Jane's granddaughter, possibly a daughter born out of wedlock with James or Alexander. I have been unable to find her death or her marriage.
On November the 10th 1869 Robert’s father, James, died aged 58, at his home address, 82, Laphook Place, Inverurie. The cause of death was noted as typhoid. Robert's brother, John Clark Allan, registered the death and gave his father's occupation as a carter and the details his father's parents. James's parents were Alexander Allan (Inn Keeper - deceased), this is why I was looking for the death details of that particular "Vinter" and Mary Simpson (deceased).
Robert's mother, Jane (Atkin), died aged 74 on the 28th November 1883 at 8 Blackall Road, Inverurie.
My cousin has checked all the Robert Allans births in Peterhead for his time period with no success.
If you can turn over a stone or two I'd be grateful.
Thanks,
Swally
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Swally,
I'm confused... or you are, now we both are.
You said: Alex Allan/Mary Simpson had c1811 James b:Inverurie.
BUT he was born Peterhead.
You said: Checked Peterhead births for Robert.
BUT Robert was born Inverurie.
Alexander Allan Innkeeper found so far.
1811: Stonehaven.
1831/2: Huntly (vintner, now at Bainshole Tollbar.) So not dead.
1835: 62 Castle Street, Aberdeen.
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Forguette,
I have never said he was born in Peterhead. James was born in Inverurie. I have it somewhere that we think his father, Alexander, may have been born in Peterhead.
Where did you get the 1835 info? Valuation rolls? If that’s the case there will be no mention of his wife Mary. That’s a great find, if it is him. So is it just a matter of checking the valuation rolls for subsequent years till he falls off?
Many thanks for your help so far Forguette. If you assist any further that would be brilliant.
Thanks,
Swally
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I know you never said he(James) was born Peterhead. You say he was born Inverurie.
BUT the 1851 and 1861 census says he was born Peterhead.
The 51/61 also state that Robert was born Inverurie. (Hence my confusion as to why you were searching PH for Robert's birth)
The BritishNewspaperArchive is where the 1835 Castle St. Info came from.
P&J 25Nov. Police Court, Aberdeen. Young woman taking up goods in name of Alexander Allan, Innkeeper, 62 Castle St. Public be warned.
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Hi Forguette, thanks for clarifying that.
I don’t understand the cutting though ?
Young woman taking up goods in the name of Alexander Allan. Public be warned.
Does this mean the young woman was buying goods in Alexander’s name without his permission?
I don’t know Aberdeen and where Castle Street is. If he died at that address, what would be the local boneyard?
Regards, Swally
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She was acquiring goods from people by stating it was on Alex. Allan's behalf. Presumably these goods were being added to his account. Which he was then expected to pay for.
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Castle Street. Very central Aberdeen. Several kirkyards to choose from, I'm afraid. Also if he wasn't originally from Aberdeen, he may very well be buried in his 'home' kirkyard. Which could be anywhere.
There's an Index to some of the kirkyards here.
https://www.anesfhs.org.uk/databanks/memorial-inscriptions/miindex
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Here's 1832/3. AA at 9 Fisher Row.
https://digital.nls.uk/directories/browse/archive/86788672
You can search many different years/directories.
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Hi Forguette,
Thanks for the heads up on this one.
Can you find him after 1840?
Regards,
Swally