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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Tipperary => Topic started by: NewHudsonRyans on Thursday 18 March 21 15:30 GMT (UK)
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I found a civil death certificate for someone who died in 1874 in the townland of Cooneen, Co. Tipperary.
The registrar wrote the informant's name and underneath put this:
"Present at death. Occupier deceased Cooneen".
But he had already recorded that the deceased man was from Cooneen, so why would he also make this indication under the informant's information? I haven't seen that on other records.
Also, the deceased man was named James Corbett, but the informant was named John Ryan. Since he was present at death, should I assume that he was closely related to James Corbett? James was married but his wife's name is not recorded, and I guess I expected that she would have been the informant normally.
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Maybe it meant they were both from there.
I'm not familiar with Irish certificates but if this person was actually present at the death it would be him that informed. His wife could have been out of the house at the time.
Not necessarily a relative. Could be a visitor who just happened to be there at the time or a neighbour.
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found this by Googling ''John Ryan Cooneen '' worth a read
http://www.foreverbingham.com/ryan-family-tree/ryans/posts-about-ryans
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Thanks. That's actually my website, but I've been remiss in updating it.
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hi newhudson ryans
Having Ryan from Tipperary myself thank you for your website
-- it might give me clues of where to go. A template of how to procede.
Do you know if a list exists of which priests were in which parishes
(particularly of Cashel and Emly Tipperary) in the early 1800s?
Some Australian immigration records give the name of the priest certifying baptism
and therefore a list of priests might help to confirm which parish.
Such lists would be so useful to many researching Irish immigrants.
Immigration records also have the names of those providing character references
but tracing those people might prove more difficult.
Regards
pH
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Hi,
Can you put the link in please, or his name and the month of death.
Registration district as this is between Nenagh and Cashel.
There are a few Ryans that year, takes a bit of time searching each one.
Thanks
Maggsie
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Hi,
Can you put the link in please, or his name and the month of death.
Registration district as this is between Nenagh and Cashel.
There are a few Ryans that year, takes a bit of time searching each one.
Thanks
Maggsie
Also, the deceased man was named James Corbett, but the informant was named John Ryan.
Here's the link to the death of James Corbett in 1874.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1874/020643/7242461.pdf
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Thanks for the link.
That would mean that the John Ryan was living in the same house as the James Corbett.
Maggsie
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Hi,
This link.....a Julia Corbett death in the Nenagh Workhouse lived in Cooneen.
I was looking for the information on John Ryan to see who is wife is.
May take me a bit of time.
Maggsie
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hi newhudson ryans
Having Ryan from Tipperary myself thank you for your website
-- it might give me clues of where to go. A template of how to procede.
Do you know if a list exists of which priests were in which parishes
(particularly of Cashel and Emly Tipperary) in the early 1800s?
Some Australian immigration records give the name of the priest certifying baptism
and therefore a list of priests might help to confirm which parish.
Such lists would be so useful to many researching Irish immigrants.
Immigration records also have the names of those providing character references
but tracing those people might prove more difficult.
Regards
pH
I don't know of such a list although it would be very helpful. For example, in one of the records I'm researching, the priest wrote about the husband that he was from "Mr. Corbet's parish". I'd love to know where Mr. Corbett worked.